These trials are so thoroughly broken it’s not at all fun. It used to be 6 days of difficult fights, then rewarded on day 7 with relatively easy fights, if you completed the first 6 days.
NOW, it’s 6 days of tricky fights and rewarded on day 7 with an unmitigated disaster. Some of the boosts don’t seem to do anything, the node and defender interactions are at times absolute insanity. Kingpin on the second fight took me 10 minutes to beat. Dorm is a massive pain. Iceman. Mordo. Wasp even. Venompool with 300% power gain from cornered and starting the fight with a debuff, with no way to gain power without pushing him to sp3 is just make believe imaginary shenanigans. Seriously.
Take it down, issue everyone full rewards for this day 7, and start fixing it. That gives you a week to get it working properly and be thoroughly tested this time. Because it very obviously wasn’t previously.
Add time to the boosts as well. 30 minutes is not enough when some fights take as much as 10 minutes, plus constant connection issues in the map, when starting fights, and after fights.
This is ridiculous
The Masochism node buff has been removed from the first fight of the Epic Level Trial of the Alchemist, so it will not be there if you start the quest from now on. It will still be there for those who have started that quest before this change though. For those that were affected by this node, we have not yet started discussions on how we will handle this situation, but do plan on investigating the impact and compensating for this change.
So for trials these boosts have led to some fun consequences:
1) masochism / reverse heal interaction
2) High sig Dorm degen once arc overload / other boosts fall off
3) arc overload / other boosts leading to spite power gain makes fights like mordo fun (iceman initial cold snap wrecks you such that you want arc overload to offset it some even if it causes spite)
Was it intended that boosts would actually hurt you for some fights? Given you only get 1 set per week (and last 30 min).. was it intended we would intentionally not use or let them wear off before finishing epic to avoid these consequences?
Drop iceman / dorm sig a lot. Drop masochism as planned. Potentially make the boosts from these special boosts not count as active buffs
Also make AI significantly less passive when doing armor part of oscillation - makes interaction with Hyperion stupid at times as you can’t bait specials and he gets 3 bars during armor phase and L3 once it switches to fury
Due to complications beyond our control, our 21.2 release is still not available for users on Google Play. At this time, we still do not have an ETA for the release, but are continuing to work with our partners to get this sorted out as soon as we possibly can.
Without the Update, it is not possible for users to take part in the Trials of the Alchemist, which is the 7th and final day of Trials.
To compensate for this, we will be allowing all Android users to access and participate in an additional and exclusive Trials of the Alchemist Qquest that will take place on February 6th, at 12pm PST. This is to make up for the Trials of the Alchemist that they are currently missing.
Additionally, we will be locking the current Trials of the Alchemist to iOS users only. This is a precaution we want to take in case users are able to access the Quest with little time left, and lose their Essences, and to prevent an unfair double dip.
We’re very sorry for this delay, and are working as hard as we can to get all users into our new release as soon as possible.
If I play with two phones - one Android, one iPhone do I have access to both?
You can lock it anyway you want now but should just track who attempted / completed it this round and anyone who didn’t, regardless of device has access to Feb 6
If I play with two phones - one Android, one iPhone do I have access to both?
You can lock it anyway you want now but should just track who attempted / completed it this round and anyone who didn’t, regardless of device has access to Feb 6
It's most likely you will be able to, but you will only have the same amount of Boosts as everybody else. These quests are not easy, and many people are having trouble with them even with the Boosts.
If I play with two phones - one Android, one iPhone do I have access to both?
You can lock it anyway you want now but should just track who attempted / completed it this round and anyone who didn’t, regardless of device has access to Feb 6
It's most likely you will be able to, but you will only have the same amount of Boosts as everybody else. These quests are not easy, and many people are having trouble with them even with the Boosts.
We'll discuss further locks soon.
One of the reasons the Day 7 Trials are difficult even with the boosts is the wacky and (hopefully) unintentional interactions between the AI champs and the boosts (e.g., Dorm and Arc Overload).
Is there any recalculation by the game team going on re: whether this is the kind of event experience they wanted to provide?
If I play with two phones - one Android, one iPhone do I have access to both?
You can lock it anyway you want now but should just track who attempted / completed it this round and anyone who didn’t, regardless of device has access to Feb 6
It's most likely you will be able to, but you will only have the same amount of Boosts as everybody else. These quests are not easy, and many people are having trouble with them even with the Boosts.
We'll discuss further locks soon.
One of the reasons the Day 7 Trials are difficult even with the boosts is the wacky and (hopefully) unintentional interactions between the AI champs and the boosts (e.g., Dorm and Arc Overload).
Is there any recalculation by the game team going on re: whether this is the kind of event experience they wanted to provide?
Thanks
Dr. Zola
Ah someone else ran into that issue also... That Dorm sucked... Had to spend a couple revives on him. Arc overload regen should be passive.
These trials are so thoroughly broken it’s not at all fun. It used to be 6 days of difficult fights, then rewarded on day 7 with relatively easy fights, if you completed the first 6 days.
NOW, it’s 6 days of tricky fights and rewarded on day 7 with an unmitigated disaster. Some of the boosts don’t seem to do anything, the node and defender interactions are at times absolute insanity. Kingpin on the second fight took me 10 minutes to beat. Dorm is a massive pain. Iceman. Mordo. Wasp even. Venompool with 300% power gain from cornered and starting the fight with a debuff, with no way to gain power without pushing him to sp3 is just make believe imaginary shenanigans. Seriously.
Take it down, issue everyone full rewards for this day 7, and start fixing it. That gives you a week to get it working properly and be thoroughly tested this time. Because it very obviously wasn’t previously.
Add time to the boosts as well. 30 minutes is not enough when some fights take as much as 10 minutes, plus constant connection issues in the map, when starting fights, and after fights.
This is ridiculous
Agree 100%! Today is an absolute disaster. Epic is an epic fail on all accounts. Dormammu with 1000 damage degen per second absolute absurd. Iceman coldsnap, Killmonger power gain on cornered with random buffs you cannot play around it!
Bring champsto fight with that doesnt have debuffs? Sure thing it doesnt matter. Chaos and random debuffs they get bleed and poison anyway go into power gain to SP3 almost immediately and you die. Revive or quit is the choices. This is not fun and challenging its ignorance just stacking buffs to see how fast you cam be knocked out.
Enoughs enough. I’ve got a great amount of 5 stars , but to have to narrow down to 4 champs on a fight I can’t even see, to counter a 100 percent health drain on iceman is ridiculous. Noded for extended buff duration at that. I played all week. Spent plenty to get to this point. Used all my buffs. This fights literally impossible without emptying the bank. When kabam continues to do stuff like this, I’m done supporting the game. #kabammedagain
Where is the update for android users? Why are y'all trying to blame it on Google? Do you seriously think further penalize android users making us wait a month to collect rewards iOS users were able to get today such b.s. bet if it was iOS user's having this issue you would just give them the rewards for all the trials immediately
Kabam, I think your testers need to take a second (first?) look at those boosts. They seem to not do anything other than the mesmerize boost. For sure for sure they weren’t reversing squat.
Even after updating right now, I don't see day7. Is this cause of the locking? There should be a compensation for the frustration on the whole thing. Rather than this extra day plan. Pissed off really.
Even after updating right now, I don't see day7. Is this cause of the locking? There should be a compensation for the frustration on the whole thing. Rather than this extra day plan. Pissed off really.
Miike's announcement above - Android users will get a bonus attempt in February to 'make up' on an even footing. Hopefully the iOS guys get some kind of package too - Epic sounds appalling!
So us android users have to go a full month to play the alchemist event we are missing now. 1 month to claim. Rewards we could be using now if we complete it. Something doesn't seem right here. I believe you need to remove the entire quest and fix everything, then try again next month. iOS is gaining an unfair advantage more and more. This needs to stop.
KP - unstoppable, chaos.... FML
Mephisto - spite, burden of might... so my half my boosts dont work due to soul imprisonment, this guy gains power like a mofo and basically ends up always with an aura and always gaining power.....
Sparky - mesmerize... FML. not much more to say really. urgh...
easiest fight by far was diablo and that includes not even knowing his animations.
BS champs, BS nodes and we cant scout before hand to prepare properly for it
Enoughs enough. I’ve got a great amount of 5 stars , but to have to narrow down to 4 champs on a fight I can’t even see, to counter a 100 percent health drain on iceman is ridiculous. Noded for extended buff duration at that. I played all week. Spent plenty to get to this point. Used all my buffs. This fights literally impossible without emptying the bank. When kabam continues to do stuff like this, I’m done supporting the game. #kabammedagain
I agree. I had to struggle to pass this node...and i went with a team with 2 6*, 2 5* R5 and one 5* R4, but if those are not sabretooth or Corvus you are dead...and i had suicide masteries and the damage was even bigger...i spend almost 1k of units to pass this node...if i used a 40% revive, the fight wouldnt take more than 10 sec...i was getting around 1,4k of coldsnap per sec....absurd! it took more than a intire life! @Kabam Miike i would like you to take a look at this node too and make the compensations. I played the entire week to get this in the end? spend 1k units to get 800 5* shards, little gold and some 5* stones? come on kabam! i opened a ticket too and appreciate if you could help me there
So many long fights are killing all the fun. Moreover, the boosts, nodes, debuffs, etc. are doing too much. Epic is really hard for many players, even with decent rosters.
One more thing, the timer for boosts should be longer than 30 mins.
Enoughs enough. I’ve got a great amount of 5 stars , but to have to narrow down to 4 champs on a fight I can’t even see, to counter a 100 percent health drain on iceman is ridiculous. Noded for extended buff duration at that. I played all week. Spent plenty to get to this point. Used all my buffs. This fights literally impossible without emptying the bank. When kabam continues to do stuff like this, I’m done supporting the game. #kabammedagain
Interesting that you KNEW the possibility of having an Iceman in your path and didn’t bring a cold snap immune or rogue.
Enoughs enough. I’ve got a great amount of 5 stars , but to have to narrow down to 4 champs on a fight I can’t even see, to counter a 100 percent health drain on iceman is ridiculous. Noded for extended buff duration at that. I played all week. Spent plenty to get to this point. Used all my buffs. This fights literally impossible without emptying the bank. When kabam continues to do stuff like this, I’m done supporting the game. #kabammedagain
I agree. I had to struggle to pass this node...and i went with a team with 2 6*, 2 5* R5 and one 5* R4, but if those are not sabretooth or Corvus you are dead...and i had suicide masteries and the damage was even bigger...i spend almost 1k of units to pass this node...if i used a 40% revive, the fight wouldnt take more than 10 sec...i was getting around 1,4k of coldsnap per sec....absurd! it took more than a intire life! @Kabam Miike i would like you to take a look at this node too and make the compensations. I played the entire week to get this in the end? spend 1k units to get 800 5* shards, little gold and some 5* stones? come on kabam! i opened a ticket too and appreciate if you could help me there
Compensation for your choice to spend 1000 units?
Man.. I need to ask for compensation for my FGMCs as well.
So us android users have to go a full month to play the alchemist event we are missing now. 1 month to claim. Rewards we could be using now if we complete it. Something doesn't seem right here. I believe you need to remove the entire quest and fix everything, then try again next month. iOS is gaining an unfair advantage more and more. This needs to stop.
Seriously? 800 + 500 5* shards + a few elementals is an “unfair advantage”?
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NOW, it’s 6 days of tricky fights and rewarded on day 7 with an unmitigated disaster. Some of the boosts don’t seem to do anything, the node and defender interactions are at times absolute insanity. Kingpin on the second fight took me 10 minutes to beat. Dorm is a massive pain. Iceman. Mordo. Wasp even. Venompool with 300% power gain from cornered and starting the fight with a debuff, with no way to gain power without pushing him to sp3 is just make believe imaginary shenanigans. Seriously.
Take it down, issue everyone full rewards for this day 7, and start fixing it. That gives you a week to get it working properly and be thoroughly tested this time. Because it very obviously wasn’t previously.
Add time to the boosts as well. 30 minutes is not enough when some fights take as much as 10 minutes, plus constant connection issues in the map, when starting fights, and after fights.
This is ridiculous
The Masochism node buff has been removed from the first fight of the Epic Level Trial of the Alchemist, so it will not be there if you start the quest from now on. It will still be there for those who have started that quest before this change though. For those that were affected by this node, we have not yet started discussions on how we will handle this situation, but do plan on investigating the impact and compensating for this change.
1) masochism / reverse heal interaction
2) High sig Dorm degen once arc overload / other boosts fall off
3) arc overload / other boosts leading to spite power gain makes fights like mordo fun (iceman initial cold snap wrecks you such that you want arc overload to offset it some even if it causes spite)
Was it intended that boosts would actually hurt you for some fights? Given you only get 1 set per week (and last 30 min).. was it intended we would intentionally not use or let them wear off before finishing epic to avoid these consequences?
Drop iceman / dorm sig a lot. Drop masochism as planned. Potentially make the boosts from these special boosts not count as active buffs
Also make AI significantly less passive when doing armor part of oscillation - makes interaction with Hyperion stupid at times as you can’t bait specials and he gets 3 bars during armor phase and L3 once it switches to fury
Due to complications beyond our control, our 21.2 release is still not available for users on Google Play. At this time, we still do not have an ETA for the release, but are continuing to work with our partners to get this sorted out as soon as we possibly can.
Without the Update, it is not possible for users to take part in the Trials of the Alchemist, which is the 7th and final day of Trials.
To compensate for this, we will be allowing all Android users to access and participate in an additional and exclusive Trials of the Alchemist Qquest that will take place on February 6th, at 12pm PST. This is to make up for the Trials of the Alchemist that they are currently missing.
Additionally, we will be locking the current Trials of the Alchemist to iOS users only. This is a precaution we want to take in case users are able to access the Quest with little time left, and lose their Essences, and to prevent an unfair double dip.
We’re very sorry for this delay, and are working as hard as we can to get all users into our new release as soon as possible.
Thank you all for your patience.
You can lock it anyway you want now but should just track who attempted / completed it this round and anyone who didn’t, regardless of device has access to Feb 6
It's most likely you will be able to, but you will only have the same amount of Boosts as everybody else. These quests are not easy, and many people are having trouble with them even with the Boosts.
We'll discuss further locks soon.
One of the reasons the Day 7 Trials are difficult even with the boosts is the wacky and (hopefully) unintentional interactions between the AI champs and the boosts (e.g., Dorm and Arc Overload).
Is there any recalculation by the game team going on re: whether this is the kind of event experience they wanted to provide?
Thanks
Dr. Zola
Ah someone else ran into that issue also... That Dorm sucked... Had to spend a couple revives on him. Arc overload regen should be passive.
Agree 100%! Today is an absolute disaster. Epic is an epic fail on all accounts. Dormammu with 1000 damage degen per second absolute absurd. Iceman coldsnap, Killmonger power gain on cornered with random buffs you cannot play around it!
Bring champsto fight with that doesnt have debuffs? Sure thing it doesnt matter. Chaos and random debuffs they get bleed and poison anyway go into power gain to SP3 almost immediately and you die. Revive or quit is the choices. This is not fun and challenging its ignorance just stacking buffs to see how fast you cam be knocked out.
Enoughs enough. I’ve got a great amount of 5 stars , but to have to narrow down to 4 champs on a fight I can’t even see, to counter a 100 percent health drain on iceman is ridiculous. Noded for extended buff duration at that. I played all week. Spent plenty to get to this point. Used all my buffs. This fights literally impossible without emptying the bank. When kabam continues to do stuff like this, I’m done supporting the game. #kabammedagain
Thanks kabam! Fun and interactive. Unstoppable the whole fight and taking constant L3 chin shots. PS - have a nice day
Miike's announcement above - Android users will get a bonus attempt in February to 'make up' on an even footing. Hopefully the iOS guys get some kind of package too - Epic sounds appalling!
KP - unstoppable, chaos.... FML
Mephisto - spite, burden of might... so my half my boosts dont work due to soul imprisonment, this guy gains power like a mofo and basically ends up always with an aura and always gaining power.....
Sparky - mesmerize... FML. not much more to say really. urgh...
easiest fight by far was diablo and that includes not even knowing his animations.
BS champs, BS nodes and we cant scout before hand to prepare properly for it
I agree. I had to struggle to pass this node...and i went with a team with 2 6*, 2 5* R5 and one 5* R4, but if those are not sabretooth or Corvus you are dead...and i had suicide masteries and the damage was even bigger...i spend almost 1k of units to pass this node...if i used a 40% revive, the fight wouldnt take more than 10 sec...i was getting around 1,4k of coldsnap per sec....absurd! it took more than a intire life! @Kabam Miike i would like you to take a look at this node too and make the compensations. I played the entire week to get this in the end? spend 1k units to get 800 5* shards, little gold and some 5* stones? come on kabam! i opened a ticket too and appreciate if you could help me there
One more thing, the timer for boosts should be longer than 30 mins.
Interesting that you KNEW the possibility of having an Iceman in your path and didn’t bring a cold snap immune or rogue.
Compensation for your choice to spend 1000 units?
Man.. I need to ask for compensation for my FGMCs as well.
Seriously? 800 + 500 5* shards + a few elementals is an “unfair advantage”?