Why does Symbiote Supreme doesn’t have vilain tag ?

TKal

Because he isn’t villain ? All right fair reason

But then, why does he gain power on node 40 of AW (Vilenny )

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Eb0ny-O-M4w

That node only gives power to villains, or to anyone except heroes?

Lormif

will-o-wisp wrote: »

That node only gives power to villains, or to anyone except heroes?

It says "villians in this arena attack absolute power. Heroes do not gain power." that being said my heros have never had an issue gaining power.

Lormif

come to think of it, it may be a reverse thing, only heroes themselves, with the hero tag, will not gain power.

Eb0ny-O-M4w

Sym Supreme is not a Villain. I don't know if he is a hero or not, but if not then I think he can gain power on that node

Demonzfyre

TKal wrote: »

Because he isn’t villain ? All right fair reason

But then, why does he gain power on node 40 of AW (Vilenny )

He's tagged as #Control: Counter #Symbiote #Size: M so it stands to reason he would still gain power being that he isn't a hero. It could also have to with HOW he gains power as just like Dr. Strange, he doesn't gain power from hitting an opponent and neither does Sym Supreme. He gains it passively and through his Genetic Material mechanic. I'm also not sure if you are saying he is getting power as an attacker or as the defender as well.

axelelf_1

*why doesn’t symbiote supreme have a villain tag.

DrBruceWayne

Same reason as Corvus and Proxima not being villains, so that Blade wouldn't smash through them in EQ.

V1PER1987

No, the node says villains gain absolute power. Only champs with the villain tag should gain power. I’ve tested this with mercenaries too and they gain no power.

Demonzfyre

This is one of those times I wish instead of duels, we had a practice room where we can test nodes out.

V1PER1987

Demonzfyre wrote: »

This is one of those times I wish instead of duels, we had a practice room where we can test nodes out.

If you don’t mind using some energy, there’s always 5.2.6.

Mother_Flerken

The_Unknown wrote: »

Same reason as Corvus and Proxima not being villains, so that Blade wouldn't smash through them in EQ.

Umm but he's a mystic sooooooo blade still smashes through him with mephisto/dorm synergy.

Demonzfyre

V1PER1987 wrote: »

Demonzfyre wrote: »

This is one of those times I wish instead of duels, we had a practice room where we can test nodes out.

If you don’t mind using some energy, there’s always 5.2.6.

@Viper1987 I was meaning more like setting up exact situations like OP says. Assign node values, defender champ and attacker. It would allow people to help more like this. I'm still not 100% if OP means Sum Supreme as attacker or defender in this situation. I am also trying to remember Dr. Stranges interactions on nodes like this from long time ago. I remember this being a topic before.

Horror_punk

Simple thing is they want to nerf blade without actually nerfing him

In past one year they released lots of champs that are direct counter to blade whether by way of nodes or by way of in-built capabilities

It started from the launch of corvus and proxima (it's clearly evident from the movie that they are villains, even a 5 year old csn say that) but kabam developers doesn't want blade to get pass through them so they changed there tag
Similarly Symbiote Supreme is yet another example of that
Adding to this first they introduced THE CHAMPION in a villain tag (even if Completed uncollected difficulty when he got villain tag) but when i went to master difficultly they changed his tag

Introduction of champs like Korg,thing etc are also in the same direction

Anyways if you are lucky having big roster then only you can progress otherwise days of depending on single champ is gone. In a game where RNG is mother of all things you can only pray that you can get some good 5*/6* to really progress in this game.

Demonzfyre

Horror_punk wrote: »

Simple thing is they want to nerf blade without actually nerfing him

In past one year they released lots of champs that are direct counter to blade whether by way of nodes or by way of in-built capabilities

It started from the launch of corvus and proxima (it's clearly evident from the movie that they are villains, even a 5 year old csn say that) but kabam developers doesn't want blade to get pass through them so they changed there tag
Similarly Symbiote Supreme is yet another example of that
Adding to this first they introduced THE CHAMPION in a villain tag (even if Completed uncollected difficulty when he got villain tag) but when i went to master difficultly they changed his tag

Introduction of champs like Korg,thing etc are also in the same direction

Anyways if you are lucky having big roster then only you can progress otherwise days of depending on single champ is gone. In a game where RNG is mother of all things you can only pray that you can get some good 5*/6* to really progress in this game.

It's a counter not a nerf. Sym Supreme wasnt intended as a villain either. Plus what you are talking about has NOTHING to do with OPs post.

TacoScotty

Hero is a tag - when I use Corvus who is neither a hero nor a villain he gains power on that node. He doesn’t get the fury/cruelty or whatever else they say villains get from my recollection - at least AW. I don’t recall for Act V

V1PER1987

Demonzfyre wrote: »

V1PER1987 wrote: »

Demonzfyre wrote: »

This is one of those times I wish instead of duels, we had a practice room where we can test nodes out.

If you don’t mind using some energy, there’s always 5.2.6.

@Viper1987 I was meaning more like setting up exact situations like OP says. Assign node values, defender champ and attacker. It would allow people to help more like this. I'm still not 100% if OP means Sum Supreme as attacker or defender in this situation. I am also trying to remember Dr. Stranges interactions on nodes like this from long time ago. I remember this being a topic before.

Fair enough but I was just trying to suggest a workaround with what’s available to us right now.

Demonzfyre

V1PER1987 wrote: »

Demonzfyre wrote: »

V1PER1987 wrote: »

Demonzfyre wrote: »

This is one of those times I wish instead of duels, we had a practice room where we can test nodes out.

If you don’t mind using some energy, there’s always 5.2.6.

@Viper1987 I was meaning more like setting up exact situations like OP says. Assign node values, defender champ and attacker. It would allow people to help more like this. I'm still not 100% if OP means Sum Supreme as attacker or defender in this situation. I am also trying to remember Dr. Stranges interactions on nodes like this from long time ago. I remember this being a topic before.

Fair enough but I was just trying to suggest a workaround with what’s available to us right now.

All good!

ljballer22

nothing to see here. i have no clue how to delete.

Lormif

ljballer22 wrote: »

nothing to see here. i have no clue how to delete.

You do realize we are talking about Symbiote superme right?

Lormif

V1PER1987 wrote: »

No, the node says villains gain absolute power. Only champs with the villain tag should gain power. I’ve tested this with mercenaries too and they gain no power.

No, it says HEROES GAIN NO POWER, it does not mention villains being the only ones to gain power, just that they gain absolute power. Also what we are talking about is tyranny, not villainy, villainy does cruelty buffs.

V1PER1987

Lormif wrote: »

V1PER1987 wrote: »

No, the node says villains gain absolute power. Only champs with the villain tag should gain power. I’ve tested this with mercenaries too and they gain no power.

No, it says HEROES GAIN NO POWER, it does not mention villains being the only ones to gain power, just that they gain absolute power. Also what we are talking about is tyranny, not villainy, villainy does cruelty buffs.

What are you talking about? I’m talking about tyranny too. I said no such thing about villainy.

I’m talking about the second node here. You’re contradicting me for no reason. Villains are the only champs that gain power on this node. Mercenaries and Heroes do not because I’ve tested it. That’s all I said.

Lormif

The OP was talking about node 40 of AW, and specifically mentioned villianry, and in AW atleast they do, because CG gains power on it. Also make sure your merc, like Domino, does not have the hero tag.

V1PER1987

Lormif wrote: »

The OP was talking about node 40 of AW, and specifically mentioned villianry, and in AW atleast they do, because CG gains power on it. Also make sure your merc, like Domino, does not have the hero tag.

Ok and you, yourself were commenting earlier about power and everyone else is talking about Tyranny, but you choose to call out my comment in particular for some reason. I realize that the thread is about Villainy but really the thread has been about Tyranny.

And no I wasn’t using Domino, I used Yondu. Unless they fixed it recently to where Heroes are the only ones who don’t gain power, that’s how it used to work.

Lormif

V1PER1987 wrote: »

Lormif wrote: »

The OP was talking about node 40 of AW, and specifically mentioned villianry, and in AW atleast they do, because CG gains power on it. Also make sure your merc, like Domino, does not have the hero tag.

Ok and you, yourself were commenting earlier about power and everyone else is talking about Tyranny, but you choose to call out my comment in particular for some reason. I realize that the thread is about Villainy but really the thread has been about Tyranny.

And no I wasn’t using Domino, I used Yondu. Unless they fixed it recently to where Heroes are the only ones who don’t gain power, that’s how it used to work.

I called out your comment because you directly stated that it says they dont, but what it really says is that heroes dont. The bit about villanry/tyranny was mostly directed at the OP, but added to my response to you. As has been stated by others, CG, SS and other non villains gain power. I dont know why your Yondu did not gain it, but the node only says that heroes dont gain power, even in your SS you can see that. "Villains in this arena obtain absolute power. Heroes do not gain power"

Also note about villains it just says they OBTAIN absolute power, that is more than likely just flavor text.

V1PER1987

Lormif wrote: »

V1PER1987 wrote: »

Lormif wrote: »

The OP was talking about node 40 of AW, and specifically mentioned villianry, and in AW atleast they do, because CG gains power on it. Also make sure your merc, like Domino, does not have the hero tag.

Ok and you, yourself were commenting earlier about power and everyone else is talking about Tyranny, but you choose to call out my comment in particular for some reason. I realize that the thread is about Villainy but really the thread has been about Tyranny.

And no I wasn’t using Domino, I used Yondu. Unless they fixed it recently to where Heroes are the only ones who don’t gain power, that’s how it used to work.

I called out your comment because you directly stated that it says they dont, but what it really says is that heroes dont. The bit about villanry/tyranny was mostly directed at the OP, but added to my response to you. As has been stated by others, CG, SS and other non villains gain power. I dont know why your Yondu did not gain it, but the node only says that heroes dont gain power, even in your SS you can see that. "Villains in this arena obtain absolute power. Heroes do not gain power"

Also note about villains it just says they OBTAIN absolute power, that is more than likely just flavor text.

I’m done arguing. This is my last comment. Peace.

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TacoScotty

If Yondu isn’t gaining power sounds like a bug. There have been champs before whose tags weren’t working properly

Colonaut123

The_Unknown wrote: »

Same reason as Corvus and Proxima not being villains, so that Blade wouldn't smash through them in EQ.

That. Same reason Sabretooth is a merc, not a villain.

If Kabam has to manipulate descriptions due to one champion, they must ask themselves, what is truly wrong: the description or the champion?