Answer the Captain’s Call. Take on Captain Marvel’s Combat Clash!

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  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Posts: 891
    edited February 14
    Manup456 wrote: »
    I just want to know what's the point of completion if you can't get those rewards without exploring. Why not add everything into exploration rewards. Also why is this the only EQ like this.

    This was not always the case with the events only the previous and this one.

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    You can get completion rewards without exploration.


    No you can't. You have to run all paths to get to the boss. The rewards are separate how they're listed but you cannot do one without the other

    For the act rewards yeah you can if you don't explore ch1 but that's it
  • Manup456 wrote: »
    @mirage_turtle how did you do that

    Skip to a boss in the first 4 paths then finish the last path.
  • PeterQuillPeterQuill Posts: 792
    xNig wrote: »
    AndiYTDE wrote: »
    I mean: Did Aspect of War really have to be a global node here? It just takes time taking down an IMIW, you are making us speeding up our fighting style which leads to mistakes. In addition to that you take away 10 seconds of our fighting time with Fistcuffs, since IMIW can actually activate his Armor Ups, but we cannot do anything against that. Oh, unless you´ve got a stacked Corvus: In that case this challenge is going to be easy.
    Honestly: Ever since you guys realized that a big part of the community hates fighting Aspect of War you put it into nearly every monthly EQ, but now even in these challenges? Aspect of Evolution would have been a challenge as well.
    Aspect of War basically requires us to take down 2% of the opponents health per second! During enemies special attacks we cannot take any life away, during Rogues Brawl we can´t do anything, Black Widow is a kind of her own, Archangel is totally useless this month... Don´t you realize that you´re going too far with Aspect of War?

    Corvus doesn’t do **** against that IMIW. You get no charges cause of Fistcuts so you’re using a 0 charge CG against him. Personally I used Void and it was much easier.

    Corvus would take him down with his sp2 easy whether he has charges or not. He would also get 30 crit hits against him since he is labeled as an avenger. Easy game easy life.
  • PeterQuillPeterQuill Posts: 792
    xNig wrote: »
    PeterQuill wrote: »
    xNig wrote: »
    PeterQuill wrote: »
    So I consider myself lucky with a 5/65 corvus, but damn this was an easy challenge this time around. Corvus had 4 charges the entire time and did every single fight. Rogue fight was amazing. 4 or 5 hits into her block and shes dead. I find these extremely boring and tedious though. Cannot say it enough on how much I dislike the style of these challenges.

    4-5 hits with a R5 CG? You’re doing Master right?

    No sir, corvus gets those critical hits when he hits into a block so if rogue is blocking eight away it's the quickest fight. Even the last rogue when down in less than fifteen seconds. All my other champs against her though didn't do too great since they can't crit through blocks


    Weird. Mine didn’t get her down in 4-5 hits. Lol whatever. The quest was cleared anyway. :D

    I also had a 4 charges, a 30% boost, 15% attack boost and the cosmic special boost going so that could be a difference.
  • xNigxNig Posts: 2,649
    PeterQuill wrote: »
    xNig wrote: »
    PeterQuill wrote: »
    xNig wrote: »
    PeterQuill wrote: »
    So I consider myself lucky with a 5/65 corvus, but damn this was an easy challenge this time around. Corvus had 4 charges the entire time and did every single fight. Rogue fight was amazing. 4 or 5 hits into her block and shes dead. I find these extremely boring and tedious though. Cannot say it enough on how much I dislike the style of these challenges.

    4-5 hits with a R5 CG? You’re doing Master right?

    No sir, corvus gets those critical hits when he hits into a block so if rogue is blocking eight away it's the quickest fight. Even the last rogue when down in less than fifteen seconds. All my other champs against her though didn't do too great since they can't crit through blocks


    Weird. Mine didn’t get her down in 4-5 hits. Lol whatever. The quest was cleared anyway. :D

    I also had a 4 charges, a 30% boost, 15% attack boost and the cosmic special boost going so that could be a difference.

    Oh. No wonder. I did the quest unboosted. Didn't feel like it warranted the boosts.
  • Drooped2Drooped2 Posts: 1,812
    Manup456 wrote: »
    I just want to know what's the point of completion if you can't get those rewards without exploring. Why not add everything into exploration rewards. Also why is this the only EQ like this.

    This was not always the case with the events only the previous and this one.

    o197527518yl.jpg

    You can get completion rewards without exploration.


    No you can't. You have to run all paths to get to the boss. The rewards are separate how they're listed but you cannot do one without the other

    For the act rewards yeah you can if you don't explore ch1 but that's it

    The exploration is for all chapters if you skilled a path in chapter 1 you wont get explore
  • I just duped my Corvus 😁😁😁 he is going to rank 5 after i finish. I brought him with all his synergies active and got 4 charges the first path. I'm pretty sure i can't oneshot the whole thing but will give it my best shot! Probably will need a few revives. Nothing like the Champions Clash though. That one cost me like 2k units plus what i had in stash just on Hyperion. Very happy this one is more manageable.
  • Surely brawl is broken right? The timer resets as soon as they get unstoppable. That means they get it every 5 seconds not 10. Also could you be more obvious in your cash grab attempts with that aspect of war unstoppable imiw? Smh

    Unstoppable lasts for 5 seconds, then it wears off for another 5 seconds before activating again.

    There is 10 seconds between each activation. The node is working properly.
    I get it’s working properly and that’s how it works. But it just seems a little overpowered the way it is. Actual10 seconds between would be more manageable but still a challenge. The description just seems a bit misleading. I didn’t mean I think it is actually broken just that it seems it
  • SiliyoSiliyo Posts: 371
    Karnage wrote: »
    My question is, what's the point?
    Why don't you just give the rewards to the top 1% of players, or anyone who has a Corvus Glaive and not bother with the content?
    I would love to see anyone at Kabam complete this with no resources used...
    You make a champion specifically designed to Counter unstoppable (Cap IW), but oh wait, nope, he doesn't work either...
    I won't even bother looking at any more champion clashes, it's pointless. I have no problem with difficult content being added, you guys did a great job of Variant making it mostly skill based rather than about how much money you have in your wallet. And I'm not asking it to be like Gwenpools Movies either. I just want it to be doable without having to spend an Odins on doing it, because I refuse to spend that amount of money on the comparatively low rewards from champions clash. Especially for RNG based rewards, it's ridiculous.
    Then when you do finally do it by spending a small fortune, you get the pleasure of pulling a 5* Kamala Khan or maybe a 6* DPXF if you're lucky...
    Screw that, keep your rewards, and keep your content. It's not fun, it's not challenging, it's not skill based. It's literally just a case of "Do you have Corvus or not".
    Making fights where you can't block and after the first 10 seconds the opponent is unstoppable for 98% of the time is just pure lunacy. The combination of Brawl, aspect of war, kinetic transference and invade, combined with Rogues reduced debuff duration is an absolute joke.
    Just stop with the unstoppable and unavoidable damage mechanics, its pathetic, completely unnecessary, and is just winding up the community.
    Either make it do-able with pure skill, or increase the rewards to make them actually worth spending the units/money on. Because I for one, refuse to buy a ton of units, that aren't cheap, just to get a 99% chance of getting a champion I don't want. Hell no.
    Something of that difficulty should offer a guaranteed 5* God tier champion, not a 5* that's going to sit at the bottom of my roster forever and a day...
    And I know it states "not everyone can do this, its not meant to be easy", but what you should of put is "This is impossible unless you're willing to sink a couple thousand units into it, or if you have Corvus Glaive" that would of been much more accurate...

    Can you please explain to me how Variant is skill based? Not sure if you haven’t played it in a while but you (1) need SPECIFIC champions to counter certain paths/champions and (2) there are some mechanics that you can’t get by because of its design. I understand you don’t like how Champion’s Clash works because there’s no counter to Brawl + the need to have specific champions (all of which I agree).
  • V1PER1987 wrote: »
    Rogue is seriously the cheapest fight ever. There’s literally no counter. You just have to keep throwing items at her. She’s the most aggressive champion I’ve ever seen in the game so hitting into her block is not really an option, nor is parrying. Finding a window to intercept is pretty much impossible thanks to brawl. Seriously, someone from Kabam show me a flawless fight against Rogue in Chapter 2. I’ve almost thrown my phone over 20 times in an attempt to find some counter to this BS.

    Lagacy and one of the guys iny alliance both have videos fighting her (using corvus though) where they had some really good and some not so good fights. Here's the guy in my alliance who just went full corvus for the whole thing

  • I didn't have as much luck getting her to block as some did, but it is possible at least
  • V1PER1987V1PER1987 Posts: 2,851
    V1PER1987 wrote: »
    Rogue is seriously the cheapest fight ever. There’s literally no counter. You just have to keep throwing items at her. She’s the most aggressive champion I’ve ever seen in the game so hitting into her block is not really an option, nor is parrying. Finding a window to intercept is pretty much impossible thanks to brawl. Seriously, someone from Kabam show me a flawless fight against Rogue in Chapter 2. I’ve almost thrown my phone over 20 times in an attempt to find some counter to this BS.

    Lagacy and one of the guys iny alliance both have videos fighting her (using corvus though) where they had some really good and some not so good fights. Here's the guy in my alliance who just went full corvus for the whole thing


    I’ve seen that video. But I don’t have a 5/65 Corvus nor do I have suicides so it’s really not a fair point of comparison. I am a bit frustrated. Maybe this challenge is geared more for the top players. I just hate that you seemingly need a high level Corvus to compete. I’m not so lucky with the crystals.
  • V1PER1987 wrote: »
    V1PER1987 wrote: »
    Rogue is seriously the cheapest fight ever. There’s literally no counter. You just have to keep throwing items at her. She’s the most aggressive champion I’ve ever seen in the game so hitting into her block is not really an option, nor is parrying. Finding a window to intercept is pretty much impossible thanks to brawl. Seriously, someone from Kabam show me a flawless fight against Rogue in Chapter 2. I’ve almost thrown my phone over 20 times in an attempt to find some counter to this BS.

    Lagacy and one of the guys iny alliance both have videos fighting her (using corvus though) where they had some really good and some not so good fights. Here's the guy in my alliance who just went full corvus for the whole thing


    I’ve seen that video. But I don’t have a 5/65 Corvus nor do I have suicides so it’s really not a fair point of comparison. I am a bit frustrated. Maybe this challenge is geared more for the top players. I just hate that you seemingly need a high level Corvus to compete. I’m not so lucky with the crystals.

    If your intercept game is very strong you could probably do it with SL. Wouldn't be a fun fight though. Maybe even spark, though you wouldn't have a ton of time to build poise but you could get your attack high enough to punish a block
  • DoctorJDoctorJ Posts: 842
    edited February 15
    Players : All this unstoppable stuff of late is annoying. We dont like it!

    Kabam : Hey lets make a new challenge with lots of unstoppable! Then tell them not to complain about difficulty trololol.
  • TreininTreinin Posts: 46
    So glad we got a new challenge this month! Thanks Kabam!

    I found this a great level of difficulty - used a 30% boost, and although the fights were challenging it only took me 2 single 20% revives and a few potions. I know plenty of others who did this with maybe 300 units worth of items, which they give you back in the rewards.

    This difficulty is 100% appropriate to the level of reward - awesome job!

  • Dexman1349Dexman1349 Posts: 2,768
    @Treinin What team did you use? Any specific matchups?
  • BadroseBadrose Posts: 541
    Dexman1349 wrote: »
    @Treinin What team did you use? Any specific matchups?

    He used the BLAH BLAH team
  • zeezee57zeezee57 Posts: 1,205
    I haven't done chapter two yet but certainly will. I have to agree with most on the Rogue fight though, the combination of nodes is terrible. I'd be really happy to never see brawl again, quite possibly the worst node in the game, but pairing it with invade so you can't play defensive and wait out the unstoppable doesn't leave really any options. You take more damage blocking the hits than you do just attacking while you're both unstoppable and at least that way you deal a little damage. As others have said it would be great if the game team took the time to think about how all these nodes they throw together interact with one another and how that impacts the players experience. Is this fight difficult? Of course. Is it fun? Not in the slightest.
  • SiliyoSiliyo Posts: 371
    I've heard that Corvus is helpful, but he's certainly not necessary. Mine stayed on the bench in favor of Vision.

    I used Void for all the fights and only used the items that were in my inventory to finish them. No crystals, no units.

    Personally, I think they could have renamed this the "Intercepting Challenge" as all the Chapter 2 fights are geared for that. Aspect of War. Invade. Mighty Charge. Fisticuffs. Rolling Thunder. Oscillate. All of these nodes have the potential to be very punishing to people who rely on blocks and parries. As such, intercepting is key.

    Based on the heavy reliance on intercepting, I'd say that while Corvus could make this challenge easier, it certainly doesn't require a Corvus or an Odin's worth of units to finish.

    I'd say that with the Champion's Clash, it was very important to find the right matchups. Magik, Iceman, and the Champion would destroy anyone who was unprepared. The Captain Marvel Clash seems less restrictive of one's roster, but it is more demanding of a player's skill.

    I don’t know about all of that chief. With Rogue, you have Brawl AND aspect of war, therefore you have a very small window to intercept her. BW? 3% evade chance becomes 100. IMIW? Sure you can intercept. However, with Kabam interfering and making the AI more unpredictable for the players it makes intercepting difficult because the AI’s behavior is not constant. @DorkLessons can attest to that. Content like this makes people believe it’s a cash grab.
  • LeNoirFaineantLeNoirFaineant Posts: 4,050
    edited February 15
    "Content like this makes people believe it’s a cash grab"

    This is only the second event like this we have had with an epic level. If we had no epic level, no one would be complaining about the quest difficulty. Epic is supposed to be the hardest content. Kabam releases something and says "Hey guys, this is really really hard. Most people that try it will fail." The players try it and say "Hey this is really hard. Cash Grab!" Cash grab gets thrown around here so much it's absurd. If they warn us it's really hard it's not a cash grab if it turns out they were telling the truth. No one has to spend any cash on this quest.

  • xNigxNig Posts: 2,649
    People are just in denial that there's content they aren't ready to do.
  • KarnageKarnage Posts: 108
    "Content like this makes people believe it’s a cash grab"

    This is only the second event like this we have had with an epic level. If we had no epic level, no one would be complaining about the quest difficulty. Epic is supposed to be the hardest content. Kabam releases something and says "Hey guys, this is really really hard. Most people that try it will fail." The players try it and say "Hey this is really hard. Cash Grab!" Cash grab gets thrown around here so much it's absurd. If they warn us it's really hard it's not a cash grab if it turns out they were telling the truth. No one has to spend any cash on this quest.

    There's a difference between," this is hard" and "this is only possible if you have one specific champion". There should never be content that only 1 champion can get through. But there are always selfish people, those who have that 1 champion will tell the rest to be quiet, like he's some sort of authority on the matter.
    And to be honest, to do all that to get an Old Man Logan? Nah, pointless...
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