Why is Doc Oc Tech?

Sheer_Cold

Rhetorical question, but still. Kabam you trigger me. -_-

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Krumbledkookie

Why is Winter Soldier a skill champ?

Eb0ny-O-M4w

Due to his abilities and because he uses technology to fight ...

AlCapone2727

Lol go to 5.4.6

DNA3000

will-o-wisp wrote: »

Due to his abilities and because he uses technology to fight ...

Actually, its better if you are completely ignorant of his abilities.

The class system is not clearly defined and somewhat arbitrary, so in general it is fine for the devs to pick one of a number of reasonable options and then design the champion accordingly. Classic Spiderman and Stark Enhanced Spiderman are both essentially the same character, but Classic Spiderman emphasizes the powers due to his science origin and Stark Enhanced Spiderman emphasizes the abilities due to his technological armor. It isn't perfect but these are reasonable choices.

But Doc Oc is even with the maximum benefit of the doubt an unforced error. On paper, you could classify Doc Oc as science or as technology, but once you make that choice the designers should have tried to emphasize it. Instead, the champion design emphasizes science rather than tech. His core ability is actually called "Scientific Method" and the research categories in that ability permeate all his special attacks; his signature ability also enhances this ability.

All they needed to do is call these things "inventions" rather than "research" and problem solved, but the designer apparently didn't think it was worth the five seconds it would have taken to fix this conceptual error.

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DNA3000

Drooped2 wrote: »

Oh God the things that could be argued to each champ.is endless.

Science and technology are often a mixed bag.

Antman suit? Science
Stark tech.
No science in desogning an arc reactor? I call that bluff.

Calling the Iron Man suit "tech" doesn't mean it doesn't contain science in it. The class designations nowhere state that the presence of one factor means all others don't exist. Without skill, the champions can't stand upright at all, because that's a skill. Arc reactors are technology, but so are zippers. The class designations are points of emphasis, not mutually exclusive partitions.

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Eb0ny-O-M4w

Other things to keep in mind:
He has armor up, which is something very common in the tech class. And he has heal block and power lock (power manipulation) as well, which again is something a lot of tech champions have (yondu, sentinel, darkhawk, ultron classic, howard the duck, IW IM, Vulture, etc)

MeniscusMaster2

Why is quake science?

RustyWar

need to get rid of the class system... it has no real purpose other than confuse people and replace it with I don’t know just off the top of my head avengers, mutants, guardians, inhumans, symbiotes ect or even something simple like heroes and villains

The class advantage is irrelevant at the end of it

DRTO

Science is tech and tech is science

Yellow8Fellow

I just think of the Tech class as characters that mainly use gadgets or gizmos as a way to fight. Doc Ock with his tentacles, Iron men with their armor, Green Goblin with his Goblin gear, Rocket with his junk, it's all just revolved around their gadgets and mechanisms.

Science is more like some type of change has occurred in their body, that has changed their bilogical structure entirely, such as gamma rays, radioactive spider bite, or getting their head enlarged.

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Colonaut123

Yellow8Fellow wrote: »

I just think of the Tech class as characters that mainly use gadgets or gizmos as a way to fight. Doc Ock with his tentacles, Iron men with their armor, Green Goblin with his Goblin gear, Rocket with his junk, it's all just revolved around their gadgets and mechanisms.

Science is more like some type of change has occurred in their body, that has changed their bilogical structure entirely, such as gamma rays, radioactive spider bite, or getting their head enlarged.

^That. Although Doc Oc's tentacles are deeply linked to his neuron system, he is still a human with some extensions. He has no change in biological make-up.

Snizzbar

Yellow8Fellow wrote: »

I just think of the Tech class as characters that mainly use gadgets or gizmos as a way to fight. Doc Ock with his tentacles, Iron men with their armor, Green Goblin with his Goblin gear, Rocket with his junk, it's all just revolved around their gadgets and mechanisms.

Science is more like some type of change has occurred in their body, that has changed their bilogical structure entirely, such as gamma rays, radioactive spider bite, or getting their head enlarged.

Colonaut123 wrote: »

That. Although Doc Oc's tentacles are deeply linked to his neuron system, he is still a human with some extensions. He has no change in biological make-up.

Except, of course, that Ant Man, Wasp and Yellowjacket are clearly wearing tech suits.

Yellow8Fellow

Snizzbar wrote: »

Yellow8Fellow wrote: »

I just think of the Tech class as characters that mainly use gadgets or gizmos as a way to fight. Doc Ock with his tentacles, Iron men with their armor, Green Goblin with his Goblin gear, Rocket with his junk, it's all just revolved around their gadgets and mechanisms.

Science is more like some type of change has occurred in their body, that has changed their bilogical structure entirely, such as gamma rays, radioactive spider bite, or getting their head enlarged.

Colonaut123 wrote: »

That. Although Doc Oc's tentacles are deeply linked to his neuron system, he is still a human with some extensions. He has no change in biological make-up.

Except, of course, that Ant Man, Wasp and Yellowjacket are clearly wearing tech suits.

They have technological suits, but there main abilities revolve around the Pym Particles, which changes their biological structure for then to shrink.

Snizzbar

Yellow8Fellow wrote: »

Snizzbar wrote: »

Yellow8Fellow wrote: »

I just think of the Tech class as characters that mainly use gadgets or gizmos as a way to fight. Doc Ock with his tentacles, Iron men with their armor, Green Goblin with his Goblin gear, Rocket with his junk, it's all just revolved around their gadgets and mechanisms.

Science is more like some type of change has occurred in their body, that has changed their bilogical structure entirely, such as gamma rays, radioactive spider bite, or getting their head enlarged.

Colonaut123 wrote: »

That. Although Doc Oc's tentacles are deeply linked to his neuron system, he is still a human with some extensions. He has no change in biological make-up.

Except, of course, that Ant Man, Wasp and Yellowjacket are clearly wearing tech suits.

They have technological suits, but there main abilities revolve around the Pym Particles, which changes their biological structure for then to shrink.

Yellow8Fellow

Snizzbar wrote: »

Yellow8Fellow wrote: »

Snizzbar wrote: »

Yellow8Fellow wrote: »

I just think of the Tech class as characters that mainly use gadgets or gizmos as a way to fight. Doc Ock with his tentacles, Iron men with their armor, Green Goblin with his Goblin gear, Rocket with his junk, it's all just revolved around their gadgets and mechanisms.

Science is more like some type of change has occurred in their body, that has changed their bilogical structure entirely, such as gamma rays, radioactive spider bite, or getting their head enlarged.

Colonaut123 wrote: »

That. Although Doc Oc's tentacles are deeply linked to his neuron system, he is still a human with some extensions. He has no change in biological make-up.

Except, of course, that Ant Man, Wasp and Yellowjacket are clearly wearing tech suits.

They have technological suits, but there main abilities revolve around the Pym Particles, which changes their biological structure for then to shrink.

Well, that got hostile rather quickly. But I'll just ignore it.

Think about the suit and the Pym Particles as separate elements. You take the Pym Particles away from the tech suit and all you have is a suit that doesn't shrink. Sure, Wasp and Yellowjacket still have laser beams, but the main purpose for those suits is shrinking. That's why I would consider all 3 of those champs science because their powers revolve around the Pym Particles.

NOOOOOOOOPEEEEE

Maybe its cause he has gigantic tentacles made by technology

ThatGrootGroot

I think you're a couple years late.