Witness the Great Revival! Act 6 Chapter 1 - Coming March 13th

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  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 37,223 ★★★★★
    Odachi said:

    Why should you need the "right champ" if you can replace it with skill? My main team is mostly 5* but my 4* cap IW is just as useful as the rest of them
    The game is full of content that requires "the right Champ(s)".
  • MMCskippyMMCskippy Member Posts: 356 ★★
    Another reason may be awakened champs...

    My 4* Level 99 SW holds her own with 5* and 6* content. An unawakened 5* or 6* SW is just another champ and putting 200 sig levels on an awakened 5* SW to get the same proc rate as the 4* Level 99 version will take a few years with the champ pool where it's at and how few god tier champs are put in them.

    I'm thinking they want to remove the 4* champs you take can take against the suicide arena teams in the 4* and 5* featured arenas.

    Stark, GR and Blade can eat any suicide team of 5*s or 6*s in arena with ok skills.

    And they definitely don't want the superstars to take a 3* Void and melt "the toughest content in the game" because they still need to make it beatable.

    I'd guess the biggest thing they fight against is the cream of the crop summoners showing everyone else how easy it is because then your regular Joe gets pissed that they can't do the same with their 4* or 5* champs and that the game is rigged against them.

    This forces everyone into the same box. I don't agree with it because I love watching the superstars melt content that's supposed to be top end with a 2* or 3*.

    I mean, if you're a great Quake player and have a long time to kill, you can do anything with a 3* Quake that you can do with a 4* or 5* or 6* Quake, just a lot slower.

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  • NiteAndDaeNiteAndDae Member Posts: 670 ★★★
    Osfan8 said:

    Will there be a way to trade in t4cc for t5cc shards? Obviously there's no chance to get a good amount from Act 6 until probably exploration of the entire thing.
    ^^^^^ This ^^^^^
  • Colonaut123Colonaut123 Member Posts: 3,091 ★★★★★
    I think great points has been made pro and con this decision. I'm sure Kabam has made the exact same considerations. I respect their choice. Maybe when I'm ready for Act 6 myself, I will curse as you do.
  • Kobster84Kobster84 Member Posts: 2,898 ★★★★★

    Just looking at the average PI of what was given in announcement, it seems that act 6 will be significantly more difficult. No one knows yet how difficult it will be other than beta testers, but I don't think skill will be enough to complete act 6 content. I agree that it sucks for people who don't have a roster filled with good champions, but it seems very clear that 5 stars will be easier to get. Just completing Act 6 once and you already have an huge increase in chance to get them. I'm sure if one has completed act 5, they will be able to at least get the new title and start getting more 5 stars
    Average pi isn’t much higher then act 5 5.4 has champs up to like 25k so a 5k difference isn’t much I understand 4* probably won’t be able to do fights in 6:3 or 6:4
  • ContestOfNoobsContestOfNoobs Member Posts: 2,173 ★★★★★
    "Cavaliers will have access to a brand new Cavalier Crystal that guarantees at least a 3-Star Champion with a 38% chance at a 4-Star Champion, an 11% chance at a 5-Star Champions, and a rare 1% chance of a 6 Star Champion! These Crystals will be available for 200 units each."

    @Kabam Miike

    ouch..1% at 6*?!

    how long till featured 6* cavalier crystal ??

    or even a Cavalier Featured/Basic arena grind?
    Arena needs a Revamp
  • LeNoirFaineantLeNoirFaineant Member Posts: 8,689 ★★★★★

    I think great points has been made pro and con this decision. I'm sure Kabam has made the exact same considerations. I respect their choice. Maybe when I'm ready for Act 6 myself, I will curse as you do.

    It's possible that I'd respect their choice if they explained it and the explanation at least approximates being reasonable. They've done a good job at times providing some of the dev team reasoning for game decisions. I don't really care that much, but an explanation would be nice.
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 20,703 Guardian
    Seatin said:

    This game should be about skill & strategy

    It has always been about twitch skill, strategy, and roster progress. And of those three, one of them is the foundation the game is built on, and unlikely to be altered by asking.
  • MMCskippyMMCskippy Member Posts: 356 ★★
    Using lower level champs to get synergies for your higher level champs has been a strategy since synergies were a thing and now it's being taken away in Act 6. That stinks.

    When 5* crystals are in better supply (it has to come sometime), this won't be as big of a deal because your sample size of 5* crystals to pull champs from will be higher because you'll open more up leading to a fuller roster of 5*s and more dupes.

    Until then... no Hela/Angela/Heimdall synergies for anyone in Act 6 (except for people who **** gold bars).
  • Kobster84Kobster84 Member Posts: 2,898 ★★★★★
    DNA3000 said:

    It has always been about twitch skill, strategy, and roster progress. And of those three, one of them is the foundation the game is built on, and unlikely to be altered by asking.
    Why shouldn’t a skilled player be allowed to do content with 4*
  • DiablosUltimateDiablosUltimate Member Posts: 1,021 ★★★
    I think it's a clear omen that rarity increase gems are coming. About time!
  • Kobster84Kobster84 Member Posts: 2,898 ★★★★★

    I think it's a clear omen that rarity increase gems are coming. About time!

    No they arent
  • Kobster84Kobster84 Member Posts: 2,898 ★★★★★
    It restricts skilled players who aren’t lucky like sure they may fail but why not let them try
  • KevanproGKevanproG Member Posts: 308 ★★
    Why champion requirement get rid of it
  • NOOOOOOOOPEEEEENOOOOOOOOPEEEEE Member Posts: 2,803 ★★★★★
    Magik sounds like a MVP for No Retreat as shr doesn't need to dash back after stealing enough power. Also CAIW as he can take alot of blocked hits
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 20,703 Guardian
    Kobster84 said:

    Why shouldn’t a skilled player be allowed to do content with 4*
    Why shouldn't a very intelligent player with arthritis be allowed to play the game turn-based?

    That's not a rhetorical question. It always seems easy and obvious to assert that some particular combination of factors is the "right" ones, and everyone else is just wrong. But the fact that this game rewards twitch skills is completely arbitrary. It is equally arbitrary, and equally reasonable, to gauge and gate progress by roster building as anything else.

    I have some concerns about the gating: synergies for example seems to be a grey area when it comes to this kind of restriction. But at the end of the day, all gates are arbitrary. You must be level 40, you must be uncollected, you must be able to afford the entry cost. Why can't someone just download the game, pick any champions they want, and then test their skills against Labyrinth? Because this is not that kind of game.

    A true skills-only game would allow me to run any content I want with any champions I choose without having to grind to acquire them. But this is not that kind of game.

    Why shouldn't a skilled player be allowed to do content with 4* champs? Here's the converse question. Why should any player be allowed to bypass the process of building a wide and high ranking roster, when that's one of the objectives of the game? Why should twitch skills be prioritized over roster building? What makes that objectively better?
  • LFC4EVA1987LFC4EVA1987 Member Posts: 27
    Not having 4* is such a dumb move what is the appeal in buying featured crystals now when 2/3 of the stars in them we can’t even use for synergies should’ve seen 3* be phased out before 4*
  • YotzYotz Member Posts: 117
    Kabam, not allowing 4*s simply does not align with your game design. RNG has to be taken into account when making these decisions. It's the same with the nick fury events. Don't get me wrong, it is in fact fun to use different characters, but the rng and the very limited amount of materials to upgrade champions does not allow for such harsh champion limitations. Variant class limitations pushed it as far as it can when it comes to limitations. My questing team has 3 max 5*s, and i still need one 4* for sinergy. Will you send me a 5* version of that character (ghost rider) so that I can use my upgraded main champions in act 6 (blade)? I have spent monetary and time resources to be able to upgrade my champions to be able to use them for events such as these, hence the excitement of the community in anticipation for the act announcement... And now I am being told that my blade is going to be pretty much useless until who knows when i pull a 5* ghost rider? It is unnecessary and makes no sense kabam. It's limiting something for the sake of limiting cause it seems like the exciting thing to do. It is one of those decisions that you as a team can look back on and shake your head in disbelief wondering how you decided to move forward with thinking that it made sense.
  • AlienShoesAlienShoes Member Posts: 40
    So no tetreat gives a PASSIVE degen?!?! Does this mean that Gladiator Hulk will get face me from it? Like Starburst? Or is it just gonna tear me a new one for baiting a special, even with my Gulk that RNG gave me as both a 5 and a 6 star?
  • Kobster84Kobster84 Member Posts: 2,898 ★★★★★
    DNA3000 said:

    Why shouldn't a very intelligent player with arthritis be allowed to play the game turn-based?

    That's not a rhetorical question. It always seems easy and obvious to assert that some particular combination of factors is the "right" ones, and everyone else is just wrong. But the fact that this game rewards twitch skills is completely arbitrary. It is equally arbitrary, and equally reasonable, to gauge and gate progress by roster building as anything else.

    I have some concerns about the gating: synergies for example seems to be a grey area when it comes to this kind of restriction. But at the end of the day, all gates are arbitrary. You must be level 40, you must be uncollected, you must be able to afford the entry cost. Why can't someone just download the game, pick any champions they want, and then test their skills against Labyrinth? Because this is not that kind of game.

    A true skills-only game would allow me to run any content I want with any champions I choose without having to grind to acquire them. But this is not that kind of game.

    Why shouldn't a skilled player be allowed to do content with 4* champs? Here's the converse question. Why should any player be allowed to bypass the process of building a wide and high ranking roster, when that's one of the objectives of the game? Why should twitch skills be prioritized over roster building? What makes that objectively better?
    I kinda think your point is redundant if you have the skill to do said content why shouldn’t you be able to do it
    Me personally have 2 5* champs that I’d consider amazing and one is blade and I don’t have his synergies because of the restrictions
    I’ve used 4* for all content bar lab of legends they did act 5 100% for me uncollected 100% each month all the champion challenges boss rushes etc
    But my biggest problem is kinda rng you may have the skill to do something but might not be able to do it as you could just not get the 5* counter for ages
  • DukeZmanDukeZman Member Posts: 710 ★★★
    No 4*'s kills a bunch of people's synergy teams. This needs to be reversed ASAP
  • MaatManMaatMan Member Posts: 958 ★★★
    funny...
    so many people complain 4* are irrelevant and are useless in content these dys....
    now.....
    so many people complain i cant use my 4* in hard content....

    so are they useful or useless?
    do you want to use them or just to complain.

    Just accept that kabam have done this.
    aggree or disagree.
    like it or not.
    but they have done it .
    end of story.
    act 6 is meant to be very very hard.
    just accept it and move on.
  • HA_GongShowNicky_HAHA_GongShowNicky_HA Member Posts: 54
    This is some grade A level you know what. There's absolutely zero justification behind this other than you want people to spend more money to obtain the champs they're missing.

    If people want to use 3* champions in act 6 more power to them, if anything they'd spend more units on revives (isn't that what you want Kabam?)

    I really hope the community comes back hard against this decision. For people like myself, who have had poor luck when it comes to my 5* & 6* roster, I'm being heavily restricted by not being able to use my 4* AA, Medusa, SW, SL, Void etc.

    Complete sham move Kabam
  • Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Member Posts: 14,159 ★★★★★
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