An eXtra helpful Mordo tip

Mr_OtterMr_Otter Member Posts: 1,614 ★★★
The bane of a lot of people MORDO! The only real counter has been Drax… until now

Something interesting I found out while perusing the forums earlier was that X23's heavy attack isn't affected by Astral evade

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  • Mr_OtterMr_Otter Member Posts: 1,614 ★★★
    edited August 2017
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    Not affected by the Astral-Degen

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    Just standing there watching the rest of the easily avoidable second half of the special charges up

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    And impact!
  • Mr_OtterMr_Otter Member Posts: 1,614 ★★★
    I believe this works the same way as Drax but I cannot confirm
  • Isman1998Isman1998 Member Posts: 520 ★★★
    Nice find. I'm gonna have to test it out
  • Shadow_roastShadow_roast Member Posts: 399
    It works, already many know that
  • Mr_OtterMr_Otter Member Posts: 1,614 ★★★
    It works, already many know that

    Well very few people actually talk about it and they instinctively go to Drax for a counter

    I figured I'd spread awareness that Mordo has an additional counter
  • Shadow_roastShadow_roast Member Posts: 399
    edited August 2017
    Mr_Otter wrote: »
    It works, already many know that

    Well very few people actually talk about it and they instinctively go to Drax for a counter

    I figured I'd spread awareness that Mordo has an additional counter

    U mean u spread awareness so kabam would notice and nerf it >_<
  • hellgoalhellgoal Member Posts: 22
    Elekra heavy works too
  • Dexman1349Dexman1349 Member Posts: 3,060 ★★★★★
    What about Hyperion?
  • Speeds80Speeds80 Member Posts: 2,017 ★★★★
    It's the heavies that have several parts to them, Lots of the females have them
  • winterthurwinterthur Member Posts: 8,210 ★★★★★
    Means Storm included.

  • Mr_OtterMr_Otter Member Posts: 1,614 ★★★
    hellgoal wrote: »
    Elekra heavy works too

    Actually I've found Elektra can't due to ability reduction specifically not working due to his AAR-immunity (similar to Archangel)
  • Mr_OtterMr_Otter Member Posts: 1,614 ★★★
    Dexman1349 wrote: »
    What about Hyperion?

    No he has 1 hit than a multi hit after stalling which would be long enough for the EA to activate triggering degen
  • Mr_OtterMr_Otter Member Posts: 1,614 ★★★
    Speeds80 wrote: »
    It's the heavies that have several parts to them, Lots of the females have them

    I believe it is X23 specifically but I will conduct further testing
  • AgentOfSHIELDAgentOfSHIELD Member Posts: 50
    Spider Gwen's heavy attack causes Mordo's degeneration to fail and she doesnt have a multi hit heavy attack
  • Mr_OtterMr_Otter Member Posts: 1,614 ★★★
    OFFICIAL MORDO COUNTER LIST

    Elektra: 50/50 chance her heavy attack will ignore Astral evade blast and keep on going as if nothing happened

    X23: the second strike of her Heavy seems every so slightly faster making her 2nd strike interact and intercept the A-Evade blast

    Agent Venom: 50/50 as his halving of all Evade means the 100% becomes a 50% chance that Mordo evades

    Spinny kickers… NOPE!

    Spider Gwen… well she herself doesn't take damage in either stance but she doesn't actually hit him in either stance so moot point

    Drax: you know the drill…

    #1 Drax
    #2 X23
    #3 Agent Venom
    #4 Elektra

    Distant #5 Spider Gwen
  • TheMageHunterTheMageHunter Member Posts: 711 ★★
    Mr_Otter wrote: »
    OFFICIAL MORDO COUNTER LIST

    Elektra: 50/50 chance her heavy attack will ignore Astral evade blast and keep on going as if nothing happened

    X23: the second strike of her Heavy seems every so slightly faster making her 2nd strike interact and intercept the A-Evade blast

    Agent Venom: 50/50 as his halving of all Evade means the 100% becomes a 50% chance that Mordo evades

    Spinny kickers… NOPE!

    Spider Gwen… well she herself doesn't take damage in either stance but she doesn't actually hit him in either stance so moot point

    Drax: you know the drill…

    #1 Drax
    #2 X23
    #3 Agent Venom
    #4 Elektra

    Distant #5 Spider Gwen

    Ever heard of karnak?

    #1 Drax
    #2 Karnak
    #3 Cable
    #4 X23
    #5 Elektra
    And so on
  • Mr_OtterMr_Otter Member Posts: 1,614 ★★★
    Mr_Otter wrote: »
    OFFICIAL MORDO COUNTER LIST

    Elektra: 50/50 chance her heavy attack will ignore Astral evade blast and keep on going as if nothing happened

    X23: the second strike of her Heavy seems every so slightly faster making her 2nd strike interact and intercept the A-Evade blast

    Agent Venom: 50/50 as his halving of all Evade means the 100% becomes a 50% chance that Mordo evades

    Spinny kickers… NOPE!

    Spider Gwen… well she herself doesn't take damage in either stance but she doesn't actually hit him in either stance so moot point

    Drax: you know the drill…

    #1 Drax
    #2 X23
    #3 Agent Venom
    #4 Elektra

    Distant #5 Spider Gwen

    Ever heard of karnak?

    #1 Drax
    #2 Karnak
    #3 Cable
    #4 X23
    #5 Elektra
    And so on

    Um kinda

    Karnak is a stunted variant who often has trouble keeping up with normal Evade champs let alone a defensive style

    And poor Cable's concussion is AAR not Evade Reduction meaning it doesn't affect Mordo


    #1 Drax
    #2 X23
    #3 Karnak
    #4 AGENT VENOM
    #5 Elektra

    Cable… Eh true strike on L3 but triple the hassle for not even double the benefit but power gain… lets call him TBD maybe between AV and Elektra

    Karnak requires the True Strike which isn't always up which is why I bump him below X23 who can ALWAYS use that heavy

    See Elektra is AAR as well which Mordo is protected against and her Heavy is like 50/50 it works… she makes the list below AV for 2 reasons

    1) He has Evade halving on all his attacks. Meanwhile Elektra cannot rely on her normal attacks at all meaning she'd have to use heavy attack and not slip up and accidentally use a normal attack that has ZERO chance to avoid the Astral Evade as only her heavies share the 50%

    2) Tenacity shrugs the Degen off… on reality it's only a 50% he fails, and a 50% that Degen sticks. 50% of 50% is 25% so…
  • Speeds80Speeds80 Member Posts: 2,017 ★★★★
    Oh my bad I had read that the spinny kickers all
    Worked, just wanted to make
    Sure the noobs reading this also realise that you can attack him while stunned with any special attack as well
  • Shadow_roastShadow_roast Member Posts: 399
    Cable got true strike so he works
    Also don't forget icey man!
  • BrotherVoBrotherVo Member Posts: 88
    Iceman with coldsnap ignore all evade, also astral evade by mordo
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  • YellsomeYellsome Member Posts: 485
    Mr_Otter wrote: »
    OFFICIAL MORDO COUNTER LIST

    Elektra: 50/50 chance her heavy attack will ignore Astral evade blast and keep on going as if nothing happened

    X23: the second strike of her Heavy seems every so slightly faster making her 2nd strike interact and intercept the A-Evade blast

    Agent Venom: 50/50 as his halving of all Evade means the 100% becomes a 50% chance that Mordo evades

    Spinny kickers… NOPE!

    Spider Gwen… well she herself doesn't take damage in either stance but she doesn't actually hit him in either stance so moot point

    Drax: you know the drill…

    #1 Drax
    #2 X23
    #3 Agent Venom
    #4 Elektra

    Distant #5 Spider Gwen

    Even iceman..with coldsnap
  • AmonthirAmonthir Member Posts: 754 ★★★
    Fun fact: If Quake has Mordo Concussed, she can attack into him while Stunned, and he will evade and attack with Astral Evade... when she will then Evade. No damage done to either champ, just amusing. Same for SG, he evades, but the AE Degen does not hit her, so it's a wash.
    Karnak's heavy is a fast One-two strike that hits Mordo through evade, similar to how Drax does it.
    Elektra is iffier than X-23, but I have had issues with both missing the 2nd strike of their heavy; I think it depends more on how many pixels are between you and Mordy.
  • TrumpootTrumpoot Member Posts: 186
    Mr_Otter wrote: »
    The bane of a lot of people MORDO! The only real counter has been Drax… until now

    Something interesting I found out while perusing the forums earlier was that X23's heavy attack isn't affected by Astral evade

    IMO the ABSOLUTE best strategy to fight mordo is to practice his timing. just watch the stun timer and attack just as it expires. (you can actually land a blow slightly before it expires and still be ok)

    with practice, you can literally follow ANY parry/stun with a full combo...with ANY character.

    for my mastery setup vs AI, I just pary/stun -> dash back -> charge in for combo.

    obviously this changes win AW where folks have limbo, etc.

  • Jim0172Jim0172 Member Posts: 85
    Iceman is the best option for Mordo. With ice armor and cold snap he counters all of what makes Mordo a decent defender.
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