**UPDATES TO ENLISTMENT GIFTING EVENT:**
To prevent exploitation, we will prevent new Accounts from being able to Gift enlistment crystals. We will also be taking action on those who are using 3rd Party Sellers, Bots and other farms to gift themselves mass amounts of Enlistment Crystals. Lastly, we will be adding an expiration timer to Enlistment Crystals. All unopened Enlistment Crystals will expire on Oct 18 @ 17:00 UTC. For more information, please see this post: https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/346104/updates-to-enlistment-gifting-event
To prevent exploitation, we will prevent new Accounts from being able to Gift enlistment crystals. We will also be taking action on those who are using 3rd Party Sellers, Bots and other farms to gift themselves mass amounts of Enlistment Crystals. Lastly, we will be adding an expiration timer to Enlistment Crystals. All unopened Enlistment Crystals will expire on Oct 18 @ 17:00 UTC. For more information, please see this post: https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/346104/updates-to-enlistment-gifting-event
Account Sharing Bans - InfoBot "Services"
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Anyone that wants to bet on Kabam not banning people for account sharing is free to take their own fate in their own hands. But anyone saying it is not a violation of TOS or not a potentially bannable offense is simply factually wrong. It is a black and white violation of the TOS.
To be precise, I said it was likely that people that were account sharing were *detected* because they shared with someone using a mod or performing some other violation. It is still the case that the could have been banned for account sharing.
Account sharing is like jaywalking, in the sense that jaywalking is illegal, there are penalties for jaywalking, and yet people do it all the time and most people are neither caught nor penalized. However, do it in front of a cop and you can still be ticketed. Someone account sharing outside of any other TOS violation is unlikely to be *detected*. However, that's not the same thing as saying it isn't "really" against the rules. It is against the rules, and it can be punished. The fact that many people do it and aren't punished doesn't change the law, and isn't a defense if you are in fact caught.
Let's put it this way. Most people account share to clear content that they themselves can't clear. So just by monitoring login time, time spent, quests cleared eg LOL, IP address or maybe even Game Center details, it won't be too difficult to pinpoint the account sharing.
Sharing for regular alliance events though...
Scenario 1.
Husband account moves in AQ. Logs out.
Husband hands over device to wife.
Wife logs on.
Wife account moves in AQ. Logs out.
Scenario 2.
Husband accounts moves in AQ. Logs out.
Husband pretends to hand over device to wife.
Husband logs on using wife's account.
Wife's account moves in AQ. Logs out.
In both scenarios, the transaction logs would look like:
1. Husband account moves in AQ.
2. Husband account logs out.
3. Wife account logs on.
4. Wife account moves in AQ.
5. Wife account logs out.
Without having a camera recording all the actions performed in both scenarios, how would you detect account sharing?
Wife's account is logged into from an IP in China and within minutes is then logged into from a new device and IP in the USA. Sharing.
Or...
TELEPORTING!
Actually your IP address that's used when logging in is attached to a region... so when act 1 husband is in Israel and act 2 wife is in USA then there poses an act sharing and the proof is it's unreasonable to get from point a to point b in that 2 minutes it took to pass the device between the hands of husband and wife.
It is more complicated than that. You might be right 90% of the time, but there are exceptions that make this much more complicated to write software to analyze.
1. Husband could be in Israel but sometimes using a VPN that terminates in the US.
2. Husband could roam to an internet cafe whose IP addresses are geo-misclassified.
3. Husband could roam to his company that uses complicated BGP egress routing.
4. Husband could play on one device, forget to turn it off, jump on a plane, land in US, start playing on phone.
There's lots of ways for this to go awry. Alone, this would be inconclusive evidence of account sharing. But in combination with other information it could be part of a strong circumstantial case.
On the subject of #2. One day, Google started displaying for me in Chinese at work. Turns out it was a geo-misclassification of our address space. There's a way to report that to Google so they correct their databases. The fact that there is a well documented procedure for doing this suggests how often it happens. Over the years I've seen this happen in person about a dozen times to myself or clients.
I have no first hand knowledge of the top tier alliances, but I'm skeptical of this statistic. One thing I can say with certainty is if the players in those top alliances are regularly sharing their account information with people they barely know over the internet, intelligence is not a prerequisite for top alliance membership.
I won't give someone over the internet my Pandora password, much less give them complete control over my MCOC account. It gives me hope to think that 90% of top alliances account share, because between drunken rampages and stupid mistakes the lifespan of the average top alliance is likely to be short. Makes it easier to move up the AQ tiers.
Kabam can't release a update correctly I doubt they can check "footprints". You guys have way to much faith in them.
Apparently they can because actions have been taken.
I doubt account sharing bans have been issued. You can believe what you want but reality is you have no clue. One day you will become a mod just keep up the hard work.
What this guy said, you really think those top ally's doing map 6 every day/AQ aren't account sharing?
If they got banned a ton of £ is gone.
Sad truth of it.
Or, the fact that there are many that play fair and don't cheat... And want everyone on the same level playing field.. Only way for this to happen is if Kabam actually enforced their TOS and banned everyone whether it was for a hack, account sharing, or some other violation. Or, maybe give a warning for lessor offenses and then ban on the 2nd offense.
There the same thing logging into someones account and doing the conyent for them both cheat one just gets payed while the other does it for free
And hes it's not eve. Free if they guy gets the 100 percent clear reward for cheatin
They said something is banable and some got banned for it don't know what's not open communication about that
Threads like this will pop up in most competitive multiplayer games as people will always cause top of cheating
Both iOS and Android have a mechanism for any app to generate a unique ID for the device it is installed on. At one time you could fetch the UDID for the device but due to privacy concerns Apple blocks this in iOS. However, every installation of MCOC would have a unique VendorID assigned which you can only reset by deleting and reinstalling the application. Everyone logging in to an installation with the same VendorID is logging into the same installation of the software on the same device. I believe there is a similar mechanism in Android although I'm less familiar with it.
You seem to be inconsistent on Kabam. You believe they aren't "stupid/naive" when it comes to banning people who spend money on the game, but so incompetent they can't track the installation of their apps using the mechanisms the actual mobile OS vendors hand to developers to do exactly that.
This thread has been incredibly frustrating. In a final attempt I will attempt to clear up what I have said and not said. I have not once said that account sharing is not against the TOS. I have not once said account sharing isn't against the rules (@DNA3000 I have included this not because you accused me but for clarity). What I have said is people who are solely account sharing with no mods are not being banned. The exception to this, as previously stated, being arena scores that are ridiculously inflated because people were grinding for 24 hours straight.
I said 90% are sharing, obviously this is a made up statistic insinuating a high degree of account sharing. I clearly have not done the research to ascertain the exact percentages of account sharing alliances. However, it is clear that most do not believe me that account sharing is far more prevalent than anyone realizes. Although this is just confirmation bias on their parts. It is easily discernible since nearly every counterargument is simply, "I don't believe you." I have given ample evidence and reasoned arguments. The funny thing is some will accuse and ask for "real" evidence, which ironically, would be against the forum rules.
I truly do not have a dog in this fight, other than people being unreasonable and illogical annoys me. Believe me or don't believe me. I never would have thought it would be so difficult to convince people of something so obviously true. But, eh, lesson learned. Take care folks.
The interesting thing is you mention Confirmation Bias, and that is the basis of your argument. You are not simply asserting that it is common at higher Tiers. You've stated that they never ban on the basis of Sharing alone, that 90% of the Top Tier does it, and that your proof is you see it happening. What you fail to see is that they have banned on that basis alone, that number is not exactly accurate, and all you're doing is emphasizing the reason that they are becoming more diligent in banning the behavior. There are people who actually believe it is not acted upon and have convinced themselves that they can get away with it, simply because they're at the top. In essence, you're showing the need for further action, not proving they never ban for it. Which they do. You can stick to the bias that they don't because you see it happening, but all that does is express the need to investigate further. They have and they will.
lol.