@Kabam Miike
All I see is a consistent 12k gold from a 10k crystal.
Correction: 15k gold. You probably mixed up the lowest gold crystal reward with the lowest arena crystal reward.
Yea that is pretty paltry... but at the same time, if you land on units, that's 75 units for 1 crystal, or up to 225 units (I think 45 units is the highest reward for a basic arena crystal). It's pretty much a gamble.
According to the initial post, all of the arena crystal contents have been multiplied by 5, as has the cost of the crystal. So basically no change there.
The 4* Punisher will now be as common as the 3* version, so it says. But, previously, for 10K chips you could get 5 crystals, so 5 shots at Punisher. Now, with only 1 crystal for 10K chips, you get 1 shot.
So how is the 4* Punisher now as common as the 3* was?
According to the initial post, all of the arena crystal contents have been multiplied by 5, as has the cost of the crystal. So basically no change there.
The 4* Punisher will now be as common as the 3* version, so it says. But, previously, for 10K chips you could get 5 crystals, so 5 shots at Punisher. Now, with only 1 crystal for 10K chips, you get 1 shot.
So how is the 4* Punisher now as common as the 3* was?
I think it would refer to drop % per crystal. Overall it will be less common due to fewer crystals, but the % chance of getting him per Uncollected crystal should be the same as getting a 3* in a regular crystal.
The 'improvement' is just a chance at a 5* Punisher, really. Overall, it does not improve much, but saying that doesn't fly so well, so talk up the 5x rewards! At 5x the price... Fortunately, you have the option of which crystal to purchase, so you can stick with the regular ones if you want to. For me, I might as well try for the bigger crystal, since the rewards should be the same gold/unit wise, and hey, that mythical 5* Punisher, right?
"Instead of costing 2000 Battlechips per Crystal, it will cost 10 000 Battlechips per crystal. The Contents of the Crystal have also been raised 5x times! So you are able to score 5 times as much gold,"
Isn't this the same amount of gold?
The added bonus of E refills, units and of course 4*/5* punisher are great. The whole point of the arena crystal, and the grinding that goes with it, is the lack of gold throughout the realm. I don't see the added bonus unless there's a higher drop rate than the 2400 gold minimum of the 2k crystal.
All I see is a consistent 12k gold from a 10k crystal. What's really the point of the same, minimum amount of gold for "veteran" players? I don't see the added bonus from the description.
"Instead of costing 2000 Battlechips per Crystal, it will cost 10 000 Battlechips per crystal. The Contents of the Crystal have also been raised 5x times! So you are able to score 5 times as much gold,"
Isn't this the same amount of gold?
The added bonus of E refills, units and of course 4*/5* punisher are great. The whole point of the arena crystal, and the grinding that goes with it, is the lack of gold throughout the realm. I don't see the added bonus unless there's a higher drop rate than the 2400 gold minimum of the 2k crystal.
All I see is a consistent 12k gold from a 10k crystal. What's really the point of the same, minimum amount of gold for "veteran" players? I don't see the added bonus from the description.
Granted, the crystal hasn't come out yet.
If you really would be a veteran player, you wouldn't be asking for more gold. I am sitting on 10M gold and ranking up weekly 4 and 5*s. Stop calling yourself vet when you are a 130k. We don't need more gold.
Question, what will happen to the 300 4 hrs crystals i already have?
I've sent a message direct to @Kabam Miike about this on the 3rd August and had no reply at all, would be good to know if they are going to stay stacked or if they are going to vanish
"Instead of costing 2000 Battlechips per Crystal, it will cost 10 000 Battlechips per crystal. The Contents of the Crystal have also been raised 5x times! So you are able to score 5 times as much gold,"
Isn't this the same amount of gold?
The added bonus of E refills, units and of course 4*/5* punisher are great. The whole point of the arena crystal, and the grinding that goes with it, is the lack of gold throughout the realm. I don't see the added bonus unless there's a higher drop rate than the 2400 gold minimum of the 2k crystal.
All I see is a consistent 12k gold from a 10k crystal. What's really the point of the same, minimum amount of gold for "veteran" players? I don't see the added bonus from the description.
Granted, the crystal hasn't come out yet.
If you really would be a veteran player, you wouldn't be asking for more gold. I am sitting on 10M gold and ranking up weekly 4 and 5*s. Stop calling yourself vet when you are a 130k. We don't need more gold.
Seriously? So because YOU don't need more gold, "WE" don't need more gold? Don't speak for me or 99% of the rest of the player base who haven't reached your level of elitism yet.
Can the Punisher be updated to issue out Arena chips when duplicated beyond 99? This change is awesome, and totally unexpected, but for any players who are lucky enough to have his 4-star at 99, it would be nice if they gained some Arena chips to rebuild sooner at trying for the 5-star.
Another way for kabam to take people's money and give people nothing
The 'improvement' is just a chance at a 5* Punisher, really. Overall, it does not improve much, but saying that doesn't fly so well, so talk up the 5x rewards! At 5x the price... Fortunately, you have the option of which crystal to purchase, so you can stick with the regular ones if you want to. For me, I might as well try for the bigger crystal, since the rewards should be the same gold/unit wise, and hey, that mythical 5* Punisher, right?
A couple of things on this comment. First, they are also increasing the probability of pulling 4* Punisher dramatically. They state he will have the same probability as the 3* has in the current crystal. I've had my 3* at max sig for some time now, so this is a big increase in probability.
Second, let's say your ideal reward from Arena crystals is units. For the sake of easy math, let's say the probability of 45 units from the current crystal is 10%. Assuming the probability for each item are the same in the new crystal, there would be a 10% chance of pulling 45x5=225 units from the new crystal. The probability of pulling 45x5=225 units from 10k worth of Battlechips (5 Arena crystals) is .1*.1*.1*.1*.1 = .00001 or 0.001%.
I'd say increased probability of 4* Punisher + any probability of 5* Punisher + 10,000x better probability of 225 units is worth praising.
The 'improvement' is just a chance at a 5* Punisher, really. Overall, it does not improve much, but saying that doesn't fly so well, so talk up the 5x rewards! At 5x the price... Fortunately, you have the option of which crystal to purchase, so you can stick with the regular ones if you want to. For me, I might as well try for the bigger crystal, since the rewards should be the same gold/unit wise, and hey, that mythical 5* Punisher, right?
A couple of things on this comment. First, they are also increasing the probability of pulling 4* Punisher dramatically. They state he will have the same probability as the 3* has in the current crystal. I've had my 3* at max sig for some time now, so this is a big increase in probability.
Second, let's say your ideal reward from Arena crystals is units. For the sake of easy math, let's say the probability of 45 units from the current crystal is 10%. Assuming the probability for each item are the same in the new crystal, there would be a 10% chance of pulling 45x5=225 units from the new crystal. The probability of pulling 45x5=225 units from 10k worth of Battlechips (5 Arena crystals) is .1*.1*.1*.1*.1 = .00001 or 0.001%.
I'd say increased probability of 4* Punisher + any probability of 5* Punisher + 10,000x better probability of 225 units is worth praising.
I actually did forget about the 4* version, thanks. Probably because I have yet to ever get one =P But we also don't know real odds of getting anything in particular, but should be safe to assume a direct translation of odds, right? TBH though, 4* Punisher is unexciting to me, although that is a personal thing.
The 'improvement' is just a chance at a 5* Punisher, really. Overall, it does not improve much, but saying that doesn't fly so well, so talk up the 5x rewards! At 5x the price... Fortunately, you have the option of which crystal to purchase, so you can stick with the regular ones if you want to. For me, I might as well try for the bigger crystal, since the rewards should be the same gold/unit wise, and hey, that mythical 5* Punisher, right?
A couple of things on this comment. First, they are also increasing the probability of pulling 4* Punisher dramatically. They state he will have the same probability as the 3* has in the current crystal. I've had my 3* at max sig for some time now, so this is a big increase in probability.
Second, let's say your ideal reward from Arena crystals is units. For the sake of easy math, let's say the probability of 45 units from the current crystal is 10%. Assuming the probability for each item are the same in the new crystal, there would be a 10% chance of pulling 45x5=225 units from the new crystal. The probability of pulling 45x5=225 units from 10k worth of Battlechips (5 Arena crystals) is .1*.1*.1*.1*.1 = .00001 or 0.001%.
I'd say increased probability of 4* Punisher + any probability of 5* Punisher + 10,000x better probability of 225 units is worth praising.
I actually did forget about the 4* version, thanks. Probably because I have yet to ever get one =P But we also don't know real odds of getting anything in particular, but should be safe to assume a direct translation of odds, right? TBH though, 4* Punisher is unexciting to me, although that is a personal thing.
Haha yeah I've never gotten him either after 1.75 years of playing constantly. Like you, I'm not too excited about him as he won't be anything but arena fodder for me. I'm most excited about the better unit return, but it'd be nice to add Punisher to the collection at some point.
"Instead of costing 2000 Battlechips per Crystal, it will cost 10 000 Battlechips per crystal. The Contents of the Crystal have also been raised 5x times! So you are able to score 5 times as much gold,"
Isn't this the same amount of gold?
The added bonus of E refills, units and of course 4*/5* punisher are great. The whole point of the arena crystal, and the grinding that goes with it, is the lack of gold throughout the realm. I don't see the added bonus unless there's a higher drop rate than the 2400 gold minimum of the 2k crystal.
All I see is a consistent 12k gold from a 10k crystal. What's really the point of the same, minimum amount of gold for "veteran" players? I don't see the added bonus from the description.
Granted, the crystal hasn't come out yet.
If you really would be a veteran player, you wouldn't be asking for more gold. I am sitting on 10M gold and ranking up weekly 4 and 5*s. Stop calling yourself vet when you are a 130k. We don't need more gold.
Seriously? So because YOU don't need more gold, "WE" don't need more gold? Don't speak for me or 99% of the rest of the player base who haven't reached your level of elitism yet.
Enjoy sitting on your gold.
Man, as I wrote, I was just commenting on ponyboy's statement that him as a vet would need more gold. I didn't say that no one needs gold.
Am skeptical about how much better this is going to be. 5x as much gold but the crystal costs 5x more is a zero sum game. Equally, Punisher 4* will only be 20% as common as the 3* Punisher because you can only buy 1/5 as many crystals. @Kabam Miike can you clarify? this doesn't particularly feel like a huge reward but perhaps I'm missing something!
@Kabam Miike is there any chance to receive 275 x 5* shards upon duplicating 4* punisher?
Many people have him already and it would be incentive to vatern players if kabam allow the possibility of obtaining some 5* shards by duping like any other 4* champions.
Hey @Kabam Miike love the change, is there a possibility we could see a change with the questing crystals, with the addition of uncollected crystals it's making it seem wrong that you get the same crystals in act 1 that you do in master mode and act 5
I've been playing since January and like this entire idea. But I firmly believe the free crystals and daily crystal should receive small increases in quality for each act you've completed. At minimum the 3rd act on.
I play daily. Too much honestly, and spend a modest amount every month. Unfortunately I'm at a road block between act 4 completion and act 5. A block I've been dealing with since spring.
Honestly the crystal should increase in item quality as you enter a new bracket. At level 50 with 100k power I have 0 use for a level 1 health potion. Or 500 gold. I don't even bother claiming them anymore it's just a waste of time.
As awesome as this is I still have not gotten back my two 5* champs that just vanished from my champs pool.i have spent over a grand and close to three years on the same alliance just to have my 5* nightcrawler and 5* gambit disappear w no reason or any compensation from kabam.so if i get the 5* punisher r u gonna jack that from me too??
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Yea that is pretty paltry... but at the same time, if you land on units, that's 75 units for 1 crystal, or up to 225 units (I think 45 units is the highest reward for a basic arena crystal). It's pretty much a gamble.
According to the initial post, all of the arena crystal contents have been multiplied by 5, as has the cost of the crystal. So basically no change there.
The 4* Punisher will now be as common as the 3* version, so it says. But, previously, for 10K chips you could get 5 crystals, so 5 shots at Punisher. Now, with only 1 crystal for 10K chips, you get 1 shot.
So how is the 4* Punisher now as common as the 3* was?
I think it would refer to drop % per crystal. Overall it will be less common due to fewer crystals, but the % chance of getting him per Uncollected crystal should be the same as getting a 3* in a regular crystal.
If you really would be a veteran player, you wouldn't be asking for more gold. I am sitting on 10M gold and ranking up weekly 4 and 5*s. Stop calling yourself vet when you are a 130k. We don't need more gold.
I've sent a message direct to @Kabam Miike about this on the 3rd August and had no reply at all, would be good to know if they are going to stay stacked or if they are going to vanish
Seriously? So because YOU don't need more gold, "WE" don't need more gold? Don't speak for me or 99% of the rest of the player base who haven't reached your level of elitism yet.
Enjoy sitting on your gold.
Another way for kabam to take people's money and give people nothing
A couple of things on this comment. First, they are also increasing the probability of pulling 4* Punisher dramatically. They state he will have the same probability as the 3* has in the current crystal. I've had my 3* at max sig for some time now, so this is a big increase in probability.
Second, let's say your ideal reward from Arena crystals is units. For the sake of easy math, let's say the probability of 45 units from the current crystal is 10%. Assuming the probability for each item are the same in the new crystal, there would be a 10% chance of pulling 45x5=225 units from the new crystal. The probability of pulling 45x5=225 units from 10k worth of Battlechips (5 Arena crystals) is .1*.1*.1*.1*.1 = .00001 or 0.001%.
I'd say increased probability of 4* Punisher + any probability of 5* Punisher + 10,000x better probability of 225 units is worth praising.
I actually did forget about the 4* version, thanks. Probably because I have yet to ever get one =P But we also don't know real odds of getting anything in particular, but should be safe to assume a direct translation of odds, right? TBH though, 4* Punisher is unexciting to me, although that is a personal thing.
Haha yeah I've never gotten him either after 1.75 years of playing constantly. Like you, I'm not too excited about him as he won't be anything but arena fodder for me. I'm most excited about the better unit return, but it'd be nice to add Punisher to the collection at some point.
Man, as I wrote, I was just commenting on ponyboy's statement that him as a vet would need more gold. I didn't say that no one needs gold.
Many people have him already and it would be incentive to vatern players if kabam allow the possibility of obtaining some 5* shards by duping like any other 4* champions.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
I play daily. Too much honestly, and spend a modest amount every month. Unfortunately I'm at a road block between act 4 completion and act 5. A block I've been dealing with since spring.
Honestly the crystal should increase in item quality as you enter a new bracket. At level 50 with 100k power I have 0 use for a level 1 health potion. Or 500 gold. I don't even bother claiming them anymore it's just a waste of time.