Let’s goooooo ! Long overdue mags buff 👍🏼 I know there's a lot of love for Magneto here, but I want to point out that these kind of rebalances are not meant to target a Champion like Magneto.If he needs an update, he's going to need something more like Old Man Logan or Colossus. Tuning changes are not what we believe that he needs.
Let’s goooooo ! Long overdue mags buff 👍🏼
Good! How about ebnoy maw. I went for him and got him as 6* and r2. The guy hits like a chump even at r2. Its ridiculous, knowing that some 4* hit even harder. How is this even possible
Can we get clarification on the timeframe for new champion changes? The way the announcement reads to me is 3 months for data collection, then notify players of changes, then 3 months of testing before changes go live? Is it 6 months total from the champion release? @Kabam Miike That's the timeline we're aiming for. About 3 months after their release, we'll know if they need any Balance Changes. We won't necessarily know what those changes are at the time, but hope to have a general idea of where we see the issue. 3 Months after that, we'll release their update. So the goal is always 6 months after release. Keep in mind that if no Balance Update is required, we won't be making an announcement.
Can we get clarification on the timeframe for new champion changes? The way the announcement reads to me is 3 months for data collection, then notify players of changes, then 3 months of testing before changes go live? Is it 6 months total from the champion release? @Kabam Miike
Let’s goooooo ! Long overdue mags buff 👍🏼 I know there's a lot of love for Magneto here, but I want to point out that these kind of rebalances are not meant to target a Champion like Magneto.If he needs an update, he's going to need something more like Old Man Logan or Colossus. Tuning changes are not what we believe that he needs. Tuning changes are what Mordo needs. He's got a great kit, but everything other than his heavy power gain is tuned down way too much.
So, first I wanted to say thanks to the kabam team for taking another look at human torch, and balancing him to make him slightly more consistent and stronger overall. However, I believe that there are champions that are in need of a buff far more than HT, such as rhino, OG cap, Joe fixit, abomination, miles morales, OG spidey, sentry, antman - just to name the main ones in the science class alone. I like the idea of more consistent balance changes, and was wondering if you could balance champs slightly every month or something, like adding small perks to bad champs, like giving miles morales a damage buff, or fury etc. I think that the state of an ideal champion should be somewhat like archangel, who is insanely good for certain matchups, but does not faceroll almost everything, so I see him as balanced. Also magik is a champ that was fantastically reworked years ago, so that she is absolutely insane, but only in the hands of a skilled player. Champs which require a combo to be built, such as starlord, aegon proxima etc... are also balanced in my opinion, as the champion is only as good as you, the player, is. This new Balance Update cadence is in addition to the Reworks that we're already doing, and could lead to us being able to hit up more of those older Champions in the future as well!This does not mean that Champions released before Annihilus will not be revisited in the future! It would be awesome if you added 2-4 Gamora like buffs every month to 2015-2016 champs.
So, first I wanted to say thanks to the kabam team for taking another look at human torch, and balancing him to make him slightly more consistent and stronger overall. However, I believe that there are champions that are in need of a buff far more than HT, such as rhino, OG cap, Joe fixit, abomination, miles morales, OG spidey, sentry, antman - just to name the main ones in the science class alone. I like the idea of more consistent balance changes, and was wondering if you could balance champs slightly every month or something, like adding small perks to bad champs, like giving miles morales a damage buff, or fury etc. I think that the state of an ideal champion should be somewhat like archangel, who is insanely good for certain matchups, but does not faceroll almost everything, so I see him as balanced. Also magik is a champ that was fantastically reworked years ago, so that she is absolutely insane, but only in the hands of a skilled player. Champs which require a combo to be built, such as starlord, aegon proxima etc... are also balanced in my opinion, as the champion is only as good as you, the player, is. This new Balance Update cadence is in addition to the Reworks that we're already doing, and could lead to us being able to hit up more of those older Champions in the future as well!This does not mean that Champions released before Annihilus will not be revisited in the future!
So, first I wanted to say thanks to the kabam team for taking another look at human torch, and balancing him to make him slightly more consistent and stronger overall. However, I believe that there are champions that are in need of a buff far more than HT, such as rhino, OG cap, Joe fixit, abomination, miles morales, OG spidey, sentry, antman - just to name the main ones in the science class alone. I like the idea of more consistent balance changes, and was wondering if you could balance champs slightly every month or something, like adding small perks to bad champs, like giving miles morales a damage buff, or fury etc. I think that the state of an ideal champion should be somewhat like archangel, who is insanely good for certain matchups, but does not faceroll almost everything, so I see him as balanced. Also magik is a champ that was fantastically reworked years ago, so that she is absolutely insane, but only in the hands of a skilled player. Champs which require a combo to be built, such as starlord, aegon proxima etc... are also balanced in my opinion, as the champion is only as good as you, the player, is.
What I don’t like is how they said they may alter a champ up or down I’m assuming this could mean a nerf which if you do this before they are released into the basic means you are pretty much changing it after people have spent That is true but let's be honest champs like namor and cull do too much damage. Best to stay balanced They have their pros and cons like any champ Pros or cons regardless their damage output is over the top. No more champs like these and the upcoming sunspot. There has to be some sort of balance in the game Try cull obsidian in 6:2 he’s pretty much useless damage output isn’t everything otherwise starlord and proxima would be the best champs in the game Cull can handle 6.2 if you are patient the first fight. After than it can be a breeze. I'm just saying too much damage can imbalance the roster You've definitely never used him in 6.2. Sure there are some paths he can cover if you're willing to keep him topped up with potions. For like at least 80% of it though, he isn't gonna do squat for you Maybe you're just not good with said champ? That can always be a possibility Definitely not the case. His whole playstyle is basically parry, heavy, repeat. He's far from complicated to use. No wonder you're taking so much block damage lol
What I don’t like is how they said they may alter a champ up or down I’m assuming this could mean a nerf which if you do this before they are released into the basic means you are pretty much changing it after people have spent That is true but let's be honest champs like namor and cull do too much damage. Best to stay balanced They have their pros and cons like any champ Pros or cons regardless their damage output is over the top. No more champs like these and the upcoming sunspot. There has to be some sort of balance in the game Try cull obsidian in 6:2 he’s pretty much useless damage output isn’t everything otherwise starlord and proxima would be the best champs in the game Cull can handle 6.2 if you are patient the first fight. After than it can be a breeze. I'm just saying too much damage can imbalance the roster You've definitely never used him in 6.2. Sure there are some paths he can cover if you're willing to keep him topped up with potions. For like at least 80% of it though, he isn't gonna do squat for you Maybe you're just not good with said champ? That can always be a possibility Definitely not the case. His whole playstyle is basically parry, heavy, repeat. He's far from complicated to use.
What I don’t like is how they said they may alter a champ up or down I’m assuming this could mean a nerf which if you do this before they are released into the basic means you are pretty much changing it after people have spent That is true but let's be honest champs like namor and cull do too much damage. Best to stay balanced They have their pros and cons like any champ Pros or cons regardless their damage output is over the top. No more champs like these and the upcoming sunspot. There has to be some sort of balance in the game Try cull obsidian in 6:2 he’s pretty much useless damage output isn’t everything otherwise starlord and proxima would be the best champs in the game Cull can handle 6.2 if you are patient the first fight. After than it can be a breeze. I'm just saying too much damage can imbalance the roster You've definitely never used him in 6.2. Sure there are some paths he can cover if you're willing to keep him topped up with potions. For like at least 80% of it though, he isn't gonna do squat for you Maybe you're just not good with said champ? That can always be a possibility
What I don’t like is how they said they may alter a champ up or down I’m assuming this could mean a nerf which if you do this before they are released into the basic means you are pretty much changing it after people have spent That is true but let's be honest champs like namor and cull do too much damage. Best to stay balanced They have their pros and cons like any champ Pros or cons regardless their damage output is over the top. No more champs like these and the upcoming sunspot. There has to be some sort of balance in the game Try cull obsidian in 6:2 he’s pretty much useless damage output isn’t everything otherwise starlord and proxima would be the best champs in the game Cull can handle 6.2 if you are patient the first fight. After than it can be a breeze. I'm just saying too much damage can imbalance the roster You've definitely never used him in 6.2. Sure there are some paths he can cover if you're willing to keep him topped up with potions. For like at least 80% of it though, he isn't gonna do squat for you
What I don’t like is how they said they may alter a champ up or down I’m assuming this could mean a nerf which if you do this before they are released into the basic means you are pretty much changing it after people have spent That is true but let's be honest champs like namor and cull do too much damage. Best to stay balanced They have their pros and cons like any champ Pros or cons regardless their damage output is over the top. No more champs like these and the upcoming sunspot. There has to be some sort of balance in the game Try cull obsidian in 6:2 he’s pretty much useless damage output isn’t everything otherwise starlord and proxima would be the best champs in the game Cull can handle 6.2 if you are patient the first fight. After than it can be a breeze. I'm just saying too much damage can imbalance the roster
What I don’t like is how they said they may alter a champ up or down I’m assuming this could mean a nerf which if you do this before they are released into the basic means you are pretty much changing it after people have spent That is true but let's be honest champs like namor and cull do too much damage. Best to stay balanced They have their pros and cons like any champ Pros or cons regardless their damage output is over the top. No more champs like these and the upcoming sunspot. There has to be some sort of balance in the game Try cull obsidian in 6:2 he’s pretty much useless damage output isn’t everything otherwise starlord and proxima would be the best champs in the game
What I don’t like is how they said they may alter a champ up or down I’m assuming this could mean a nerf which if you do this before they are released into the basic means you are pretty much changing it after people have spent That is true but let's be honest champs like namor and cull do too much damage. Best to stay balanced They have their pros and cons like any champ Pros or cons regardless their damage output is over the top. No more champs like these and the upcoming sunspot. There has to be some sort of balance in the game
What I don’t like is how they said they may alter a champ up or down I’m assuming this could mean a nerf which if you do this before they are released into the basic means you are pretty much changing it after people have spent That is true but let's be honest champs like namor and cull do too much damage. Best to stay balanced They have their pros and cons like any champ
What I don’t like is how they said they may alter a champ up or down I’m assuming this could mean a nerf which if you do this before they are released into the basic means you are pretty much changing it after people have spent That is true but let's be honest champs like namor and cull do too much damage. Best to stay balanced
What I don’t like is how they said they may alter a champ up or down I’m assuming this could mean a nerf which if you do this before they are released into the basic means you are pretty much changing it after people have spent
What I don’t like is how they said they may alter a champ up or down I’m assuming this could mean a nerf which if you do this before they are released into the basic means you are pretty much changing it after people have spent That is true but let's be honest champs like namor and cull do too much damage. Best to stay balanced They have their pros and cons like any champ Pros or cons regardless their damage output is over the top. No more champs like these and the upcoming sunspot. There has to be some sort of balance in the game Try cull obsidian in 6:2 he’s pretty much useless damage output isn’t everything otherwise starlord and proxima would be the best champs in the game Cull can handle 6.2 if you are patient the first fight. After than it can be a breeze. I'm just saying too much damage can imbalance the roster You've definitely never used him in 6.2. Sure there are some paths he can cover if you're willing to keep him topped up with potions. For like at least 80% of it though, he isn't gonna do squat for you Maybe you're just not good with said champ? That can always be a possibility Ok take a 5:65 cull against all or nothing backblast Hyperion tell me how that goes 1 fight. Okay... and the others?
What I don’t like is how they said they may alter a champ up or down I’m assuming this could mean a nerf which if you do this before they are released into the basic means you are pretty much changing it after people have spent That is true but let's be honest champs like namor and cull do too much damage. Best to stay balanced They have their pros and cons like any champ Pros or cons regardless their damage output is over the top. No more champs like these and the upcoming sunspot. There has to be some sort of balance in the game Try cull obsidian in 6:2 he’s pretty much useless damage output isn’t everything otherwise starlord and proxima would be the best champs in the game Cull can handle 6.2 if you are patient the first fight. After than it can be a breeze. I'm just saying too much damage can imbalance the roster You've definitely never used him in 6.2. Sure there are some paths he can cover if you're willing to keep him topped up with potions. For like at least 80% of it though, he isn't gonna do squat for you Maybe you're just not good with said champ? That can always be a possibility Ok take a 5:65 cull against all or nothing backblast Hyperion tell me how that goes
That's just some of the stuff off the top of my head. I'm not going to start looking through the chapter for specifics
Great news, but this is a joke. I think a lot of people can agree that the older champions need more balance tuning than Annihulus and Human Torch. Why are you giving them specific favor for balance instead of others?
Great news, but this is a joke. I think a lot of people can agree that the older champions need more balance tuning than Annihulus and Human Torch. Why are you giving them specific favor for balance instead of others? I agree. They’re reworking champs they JUST released that are still decent and desirable when at least half of the champions from the first 2 years of the game are bench material. Smh.
So, first I wanted to say thanks to the kabam team for taking another look at human torch, and balancing him to make him slightly more consistent and stronger overall. However, I believe that there are champions that are in need of a buff far more than HT, such as rhino, OG cap, Joe fixit, abomination, miles morales, OG spidey, sentry, antman - just to name the main ones in the science class alone. I like the idea of more consistent balance changes, and was wondering if you could balance champs slightly every month or something, like adding small perks to bad champs, like giving miles morales a damage buff, or fury etc. I think that the state of an ideal champion should be somewhat like archangel, who is insanely good for certain matchups, but does not faceroll almost everything, so I see him as balanced. Also magik is a champ that was fantastically reworked years ago, so that she is absolutely insane, but only in the hands of a skilled player. Champs which require a combo to be built, such as starlord, aegon proxima etc... are also balanced in my opinion, as the champion is only as good as you, the player, is. This new Balance Update cadence is in addition to the Reworks that we're already doing, and could lead to us being able to hit up more of those older Champions in the future as well!This does not mean that Champions released before Annihilus will not be revisited in the future! It would be awesome if you added 2-4 Gamora like buffs every month to 2015-2016 champs. Yep, yep. Gamora was obviously really extensive, and I understand that they probably aren't gonna get that deep into it, but I would argue pretty strongly that you can use Annihilus and Human Torch in content where you wouldn't dream of taking OG Iron Man and OG Captain America This is what strikes me as odd: assigning coding resources to otherwise serviceable champs while other champs (and bugs) that have languished get...what? If the team has grown and has increased bandwidth, then terrific—I hope that means more stuff gets addressed more quickly. But if it hasn’t, who’s working on the other stuff?Dr. Zola
So, first I wanted to say thanks to the kabam team for taking another look at human torch, and balancing him to make him slightly more consistent and stronger overall. However, I believe that there are champions that are in need of a buff far more than HT, such as rhino, OG cap, Joe fixit, abomination, miles morales, OG spidey, sentry, antman - just to name the main ones in the science class alone. I like the idea of more consistent balance changes, and was wondering if you could balance champs slightly every month or something, like adding small perks to bad champs, like giving miles morales a damage buff, or fury etc. I think that the state of an ideal champion should be somewhat like archangel, who is insanely good for certain matchups, but does not faceroll almost everything, so I see him as balanced. Also magik is a champ that was fantastically reworked years ago, so that she is absolutely insane, but only in the hands of a skilled player. Champs which require a combo to be built, such as starlord, aegon proxima etc... are also balanced in my opinion, as the champion is only as good as you, the player, is. This new Balance Update cadence is in addition to the Reworks that we're already doing, and could lead to us being able to hit up more of those older Champions in the future as well!This does not mean that Champions released before Annihilus will not be revisited in the future! It would be awesome if you added 2-4 Gamora like buffs every month to 2015-2016 champs. Yep, yep. Gamora was obviously really extensive, and I understand that they probably aren't gonna get that deep into it, but I would argue pretty strongly that you can use Annihilus and Human Torch in content where you wouldn't dream of taking OG Iron Man and OG Captain America
Let’s goooooo ! Long overdue mags buff 👍🏼 I know there's a lot of love for Magneto here, but I want to point out that these kind of rebalances are not meant to target a Champion like Magneto.If he needs an update, he's going to need something more like Old Man Logan or Colossus. Tuning changes are not what we believe that he needs. How about Diablo?
So will it be like a Sentry-esque buff? Something similar, yes. No 2 Champions will ever have the same solution, but that's the kind of changes we're looking at.
So will it be like a Sentry-esque buff?
