Who thought it was a good idea to pair these buffs...

Aryanna

...with a power flood node?

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Aryanna

Also explain to me how memorize is suppose to be 7% chance but it’s really 100% chance on hits

Sabrefencer

Are we missing something? What buffs paired with power flood?

Hamin

Aryanna wrote: »

Also explain to me how memorize is suppose to be 7% chance but it’s really 100% chance on hits

Memorize procced once on me in all 5 difficulties.

Hyperbolic much?

VancexClaRii

Mesmerize buff - Using Void or Blade or anyone who hits hard.. I would do Parry then 2/3 hits, repeat until opponent is dead.

Nikskini

VancexClaRii wrote: »

Mesmerize buff - Using Void or Blade or anyone who hits hard.. I would do Parry then 2/3 hits, repeat until opponent is dead.

We can do this with any champ just make enemy dash at you then parry and do MLM combo repeat

Darkness275

Hamin wrote: »

Aryanna wrote: »

Also explain to me how memorize is suppose to be 7% chance but it’s really 100% chance on hits

Memorize procced once on me in all 5 difficulties.

Hyperbolic much?

I mean his 100% claim is vastly exaggerated. But it's much more than a 7% chance.
While I was using my Blade (w/GR synergy and I was facing a villain) it was actually 7%. If I'd use my Sentinel or anyone else it was much closer to 25% than it was to 7%, and that's not an exaggeration.

VulcanM

Aryanna wrote: »

Also explain to me how memorize is suppose to be 7% chance but it’s really 100% chance on hits

nah, it procced for me about 5-10 percent of the time. so i think rng is holding a grudge against you rn.

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Marri_2

A 7% chance to trigger does not mean that it happens once every 14, 28 hits, or that you may reasonably assume that it doesn't happen twice in quick succession.

While it is undoubtedly true that with a large enough sample size (number of total hits) it will show 7% (number of mesmerize triggers), fights don't last long enough and don't require enough hits to accurately measure whether it is 7%. It is very possible to have a mesmerize trigger twice in a row, because the chance to trigger on ANY hit is as high as on ANY other; chances of an activation don't drop after it has triggered (like a cooldown mechanic).

LilMaddogHT

Aryanna wrote: »

...with a power flood node?

I bring a 4/55 OG Vision for it. Not even a problem with all the buffs on. OG Vision or even a 5/50 Vision would be just fine.

DNA3000

Marri_2 wrote: »

A 7% chance to trigger does not mean that it happens once every 14, 28 hits, or that you may reasonably assume that it doesn't happen twice in quick succession.

While it is undoubtedly true that with a large enough sample size (number of total hits) it will show 7% (number of mesmerize triggers), fights don't last long enough and don't require enough hits to accurately measure whether it is 7%. It is very possible to have a mesmerize trigger twice in a row, because the chance to trigger on ANY hit is as high as on ANY other; chances of an activation don't drop after it has triggered (like a cooldown mechanic).

To amplify: this is a randomly generated sequence of 7% chance to evade results:

- - - - - - - - - - - E - - - - - - - - - E - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - E - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - E - E - - - - - - - - - - - - E - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

So is this:

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - E - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - E - - - - - - - - - - - - - E E - - - - - - - - - E E - E - - - - - - - - - - E - - - - - - - - E - - - - - - - -

That sequence of three evades in four swings doesn't mean my generator is broken, it means random is random. The first sequence is relatively sparse, the second one is much more bursty. Again: random is random. Both sequences were generated using Python, which uses the Mersenne twister. Mersenne passes the Diehard tests, which means you aren't going to detect a flaw in the generator with human eyeballs watching sequences short enough to fit on Earth.

Snizzbar

DNA3000 wrote: »

Both sequences were generated using Python, which uses the Mersenne twister. Mersenne passes the Diehard tests, which means you aren't going to detect a flaw in the generator with human eyeballs watching sequences short enough to fit on Earth.

Ahh, but does it pass the Diehardwithavengeance tests?

Helicopter_dugdugdug

Mesmerise is 35% chance in a combo of 5 hits . That is a huge chance to trigger it

G0311

Aryanna wrote: »

Also explain to me how memorize is suppose to be 7% chance but it’s really 100% chance on hits

Trick is to perry hit 3 hits with pacifiy mastery on full and or use a champ that lowers ability accuracy. Never been mesmerized.

Snizzbar

Helicopter_dugdugdug wrote: »

Mesmerise is 35% chance in a combo of 5 hits . That is a huge chance to trigger it

Um, I don't think you've got the math quite right there. But you get a B+ for effort.
Well done.

DNA3000

Snizzbar wrote: »

DNA3000 wrote: »

Both sequences were generated using Python, which uses the Mersenne twister. Mersenne passes the Diehard tests, which means you aren't going to detect a flaw in the generator with human eyeballs watching sequences short enough to fit on Earth.

Ahh, but does it pass the Diehardwithavengeance tests?

Yippie kai yay RNG.

Helicopter_dugdugdug

Snizzbar wrote: »

Helicopter_dugdugdug wrote: »

Mesmerise is 35% chance in a combo of 5 hits . That is a huge chance to trigger it

Um, I don't think you've got the math quite right there. But you get a B+ for effort.
Well done.

I kno . I didn’t have the time to calculate the true percentage which is close to 35% . Arithmetic addition is good enough to make my point .

Marri_2

Helicopter_dugdugdug wrote: »

Mesmerise is 35% chance in a combo of 5 hits . That is a huge chance to trigger it

Dude, no, that's not how it works. That means that in a set of 15 hits it would be 105%, which is impossible.

BLEEDlNG_DGE

If that 7% chance was a drop rate to pull a god-tier champ in a crystal it would not nearly proc as much as it does. But you know, because mesmerize works against you... 😅

DNA3000

Marri_2 wrote: »

Helicopter_dugdugdug wrote: »

Mesmerise is 35% chance in a combo of 5 hits . That is a huge chance to trigger it

Dude, no, that's not how it works. That means that in a set of 15 hits it would be 105%, which is impossible.

True, although for small numbers linear addition gives ballpark decent numbers. The chance to fire at least once in a five combo is 1 - (1-0.7)^5 ~= 30.43%.

OrcDovahkiin

Parry 3 hits M-L-M easy game easy life

Helicopter_dugdugdug

DNA3000 wrote: »

Marri_2 wrote: »

Helicopter_dugdugdug wrote: »

Mesmerise is 35% chance in a combo of 5 hits . That is a huge chance to trigger it

Dude, no, that's not how it works. That means that in a set of 15 hits it would be 105%, which is impossible.

True, although for small numbers linear addition gives ballpark decent numbers. The chance to fire at least once in a five combo is 1 - (1-0.7)^5 ~= 30.43%.

Thank you for writing the exact percentage.

Hammerbro_64

It actually never procs for me. Because I realize that you might want to take an evasion-counter like Iceman or Venom 🤷🏻‍♂️ Or use DV for those long parry stuns