Witness the Great Revival! Act 6 Chapter 1 - Coming March 13th

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  • DaphboyDaphboy Posts: 174

    Daphboy said:

    I have zero patience to exchange bile. If you would like to have a respectful conversation with me, I'm all ears. Otherwise I'm not going to invest my energy into slagging people off.


    Zero patience to exchange bile, yet here you are, spewing it all over the forums lol. Seems to me it’s how you get your kicks


    I would suggest reading again. I'm talking about the topics we're discussing here. Most mature adults are capable of having a conversation and being able to agree or disagree in a respectful manner. The amount of negativity, hatred, threats, homophobic remarks, and just plain old abuse that is thrown at me is beyond inappropriate. Everywhere from here, to Reddit, to YouTube, to in-game, even in my Inbox. It is absolutely uncalled for and unwarranted. So what if people don't agree with my points? That doesn't give them the right to behave like that.
    I've been through more than that in the last 3 years, and it doesn't hurt my feelings a bit. I have thick skin. I just don't have time for it. It's not what we're here for, and it sure won't give people what they want. It's just a waste of energy. So, yes. I won't invest my energy into it. Other people can do whatever they choose, but my energy is my own, and if it hasn't done anything to hurt me in 3 years, it won't now.
    What’s that? I couldn’t hear you over all the wretching 🤮
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 20,050 ★★★★★
    Yep. Have a good evening.
  • UmbertoDelRioUmbertoDelRio Posts: 2,070 ★★★★
    ezmoney said:

    ezmoney said:

    ezmoney said:

    ezmoney said:

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    ezmoney said:

    ezmoney said:

    Did you even read the thing yourself? Nothing in there even suggests a 5* ban.

    Do you know what you and all the other people on this bandwagon mean to seatin and other end game content creators?
    Ad revenue. Nothing more.
    yeah i read it kid and restricting 5*s is right in the same area. Its unnecessary and their explanation of "gates" for 4*s is a joke. So how about you read it son.
    First of all, the "flag" button isn't a "dislike" button, mate. Trying to insult me by calling me a kid, while pretty pathetic as an attempt, is actually worth a flag, though.
    This might help you understand the concept.

    Moving on.

    Again, did you read it? It says absolutely nothing about a 5* ban. It even mostly talks about making 5* and 6* champs easier to acquire.
    It hints at certain paths in missions after 6.1 maybe requiring you to have X amount of 5*/6* champs in your team. But calling that a 5* ban is way above semantics. It's just plain old not understanding how words work.
    Or, still my guess, you actually did not read the whole message.
    i read it son and its a restriction. My guess is that your roster doesnt even meet the requirements for act 6.1 anyways so why are you even arguing. whats your ign. Prove me I'm wrong fanboy.
    513 posts in 2 months lol seriously dude. You even play?
    You even english...? Please, stay on topic.

    Did you read the message yet?
    The gent named umberto says you even english. Ive read it... and its garbage. You posting every other minute rambling that it isn't wont make it any less garbage.
    And that's supposed to make... Sense... I guess?

    Okay, look as much as I like turning around in circles, I'd like you to do one thing for me:

    Once you finally got to read the whole message yourself, please quote the part that mentions a 5* ban and/or restriction.

    Then, although I already quoted and explained that already, I can tell you exactly where your cognitive dissonance stems from.

    I might even find an even easier to digest analogy to explain the concept to you then.

    Oh, also again, the "flag" button is not a "dislike" button. Flag is spelled f-l-a-g and dislike is spelled d-i-s-l-i-k-e.
    See the difference?
    you post 12 times a day kid. That's insane. What's your ign. I bet you arent even ready for act 6 and you're just being dim and want to try and ensight rage. Which you won't get troll. You even english??? umberto?
    I already said how I'm not ready for act 6 and never said I was. Just a few comments ago actually.

    But thanks for showing that you can't even read comments. Tells a lot, mate.

    Also the fact that you seem to see "reading comprehension" as "nonsense".

    "[...] and Rarity requirements where you must bring [X] amount of 5-Star or 6-Star Champions to complete the quest path."

    This right here is the part you saw other people mention (let's face it, you won't read it no matter what). So, to stay on topic, where exactly does it say anything about a 5* ban/restriction? This actually comes down to semantics a little bit, so be careful about how words work.
    Well I'm ready for map 6. So be gone. You speak of things of which you do not know. Go hit up arena bud.
    You want to argue that roster restrictions are bad... and in that discussion... you... want to... restrict... people... Because... of... their... ro... sters...

    Brilliant!
  • ezmoneyezmoney Posts: 208

    This game is going in a direction that may lead to it's end. Act 6 restrictions and possible restrictions on 5* are silly. I have no problem in completing this requirement, but it wipes out a good portion of summoners. If one can use 4* to complete Act 6, it shows skill and something that should be lauded, not restricted.This game is becoming less about skill, more about RNG, and who you pull from 5*/6* crystals.

    excatly.... its a great game concept and has the marvel stamp. If Kabam would simply get some input from the community and the possible pitfalls prior to making changes like this they'd be on easy street. Instead you smack the beehive with a bat and wonder why the bees are upset. It's soooo tonedeaf and disrespectful. I really hope you all take a few minutes and understand what you're doing. The community is on the brink and there are other options out there. As soon as dominos start falling you'll lose your base. Here's to hoping Kabam makes the right call.
  • ezmoneyezmoney Posts: 208

    ezmoney said:

    ezmoney said:

    ezmoney said:

    ezmoney said:

    ezmoney said:

    ezmoney said:

    ezmoney said:

    Did you even read the thing yourself? Nothing in there even suggests a 5* ban.

    Do you know what you and all the other people on this bandwagon mean to seatin and other end game content creators?
    Ad revenue. Nothing more.
    yeah i read it kid and restricting 5*s is right in the same area. Its unnecessary and their explanation of "gates" for 4*s is a joke. So how about you read it son.
    First of all, the "flag" button isn't a "dislike" button, mate. Trying to insult me by calling me a kid, while pretty pathetic as an attempt, is actually worth a flag, though.
    This might help you understand the concept.

    Moving on.

    Again, did you read it? It says absolutely nothing about a 5* ban. It even mostly talks about making 5* and 6* champs easier to acquire.
    It hints at certain paths in missions after 6.1 maybe requiring you to have X amount of 5*/6* champs in your team. But calling that a 5* ban is way above semantics. It's just plain old not understanding how words work.
    Or, still my guess, you actually did not read the whole message.
    i read it son and its a restriction. My guess is that your roster doesnt even meet the requirements for act 6.1 anyways so why are you even arguing. whats your ign. Prove me I'm wrong fanboy.
    513 posts in 2 months lol seriously dude. You even play?
    You even english...? Please, stay on topic.

    Did you read the message yet?
    The gent named umberto says you even english. Ive read it... and its garbage. You posting every other minute rambling that it isn't wont make it any less garbage.
    And that's supposed to make... Sense... I guess?

    Okay, look as much as I like turning around in circles, I'd like you to do one thing for me:

    Once you finally got to read the whole message yourself, please quote the part that mentions a 5* ban and/or restriction.

    Then, although I already quoted and explained that already, I can tell you exactly where your cognitive dissonance stems from.

    I might even find an even easier to digest analogy to explain the concept to you then.

    Oh, also again, the "flag" button is not a "dislike" button. Flag is spelled f-l-a-g and dislike is spelled d-i-s-l-i-k-e.
    See the difference?
    you post 12 times a day kid. That's insane. What's your ign. I bet you arent even ready for act 6 and you're just being dim and want to try and ensight rage. Which you won't get troll. You even english??? umberto?
    I already said how I'm not ready for act 6 and never said I was. Just a few comments ago actually.

    But thanks for showing that you can't even read comments. Tells a lot, mate.

    Also the fact that you seem to see "reading comprehension" as "nonsense".

    "[...] and Rarity requirements where you must bring [X] amount of 5-Star or 6-Star Champions to complete the quest path."

    This right here is the part you saw other people mention (let's face it, you won't read it no matter what). So, to stay on topic, where exactly does it say anything about a 5* ban/restriction? This actually comes down to semantics a little bit, so be careful about how words work.
    Well I'm ready for map 6. So be gone. You speak of things of which you do not know. Go hit up arena bud.
    You want to argue that roster restrictions are bad... and in that discussion... you... want to... restrict... people... Because... of... their... ro... sters...

    Brilliant!
    Nah ... I'd like my friends who grinded for synergy 4*s to be able to use them instead of rage quitting because of a poor decision by Kabam. They're pushing people to spend. That's it... there's no other reason to ban 4* champs. The gates response holds absolutley no water.
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Posts: 8,217 Guardian
    edited March 11

    The requirements in Chapter 1 are set as a primer for rest of Act 6. Act 6 Chapter 2 and beyond will also have Champion Requirements, including some more stringent ones like paths that have Class Requirements for your entire team, and Rarity requirements where you must bring [X] amount of 5-Star or 6-Star Champions to complete the quest path.

    @Kabam Miike, Kabam absolutely lost my support of the 4* ban with this. I mean, Act 5 release was over the course of a few months. To go from a 4* gate, to path gates of 6* is a little too much, especially if you stagger class and rarity requirements (all must be Science and 3 of this must be 6*).

    6* are far too rare to put a restriction or gate of having. I can understand the 4* gates... as many players have a plethora of 5* (though maybe not ones that give the best synergies). I am sorry, but I just joined the rest of the community on this issue.
    The progress gate is explicitly intended to be unlikely for most players to already be past it, and non-trivial to eventually work across it. But I don't think @Kabam Miike meant that there would be some 5* gates and some 6* gates, I think he meant there would be some gates where you would need some minimum number of champions of 5* rarity or higher.

    If that's actually what he meant, he should probably clarify.
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Posts: 8,217 Guardian
    arsjum said:

    DrZola said:

    This thread just needs to die Lol.🤣😂

    Agreed. It’s an extremely unpopular decision with only the barest of justifications offered thus far.
    I doubt any of that is going to change regardless of how many posts show up in this thread. And as long as players dump resources into snowball’s-chance FGMCs, there’s no incentive to change anything.

    Dr. Zola
    The only way Kabam can reconsider the decision on 4* restriction is if most people refuse to do Act 6.1 when it drops. But we know it won’t happen as the players will flock to conquering it. So, not only Kabam is going to ignore complaints here but the company is in a SAFE POSITION to do so!
    I don't think you understand the purpose of a progress gate. The purpose is to initially limit the number of players capable of crossing the gate. Most people will be incapable of doing Act 6 initially whether they want to or not, which is intentional. Boycotting content the developers are explicitly saying they are trying to limit the number of people capable of blasting through it would be entirely unproductive.
  • DrZolaDrZola Posts: 2,760 ★★★★★
    edited March 11
    DNA3000 said:

    The requirements in Chapter 1 are set as a primer for rest of Act 6. Act 6 Chapter 2 and beyond will also have Champion Requirements, including some more stringent ones like paths that have Class Requirements for your entire team, and Rarity requirements where you must bring [X] amount of 5-Star or 6-Star Champions to complete the quest path.

    @Kabam Miike, Kabam absolutely lost my support of the 4* ban with this. I mean, Act 5 release was over the course of a few months. To go from a 4* gate, to path gates of 6* is a little too much, especially if you stagger class and rarity requirements (all must be Science and 3 of this must be 6*).

    6* are far too rare to put a restriction or gate of having. I can understand the 4* gates... as many players have a plethora of 5* (though maybe not ones that give the best synergies). I am sorry, but I just joined the rest of the community on this issue.
    The progress gate is explicitly intended to be unlikely for most players to already be past it, and non-trivial to eventually work across it. But I don't think @Kabam Miike meant that there would be some 5* gates and some 6* gates, I think he meant there would be some gates where you would need some minimum number of champions of 5* rarity or higher.

    If that's actually what he meant, he should probably clarify.
    Actually, I read it as some minimum number of champs of 6* rarity or higher. Otherwise, how is it more stringent than only 5/6*?

    But I agree it’s unclear.

    Dr. Zola
  • DshuDshu Posts: 1,028 ★★★
    DrZola said:

    DNA3000 said:

    The requirements in Chapter 1 are set as a primer for rest of Act 6. Act 6 Chapter 2 and beyond will also have Champion Requirements, including some more stringent ones like paths that have Class Requirements for your entire team, and Rarity requirements where you must bring [X] amount of 5-Star or 6-Star Champions to complete the quest path.

    @Kabam Miike, Kabam absolutely lost my support of the 4* ban with this. I mean, Act 5 release was over the course of a few months. To go from a 4* gate, to path gates of 6* is a little too much, especially if you stagger class and rarity requirements (all must be Science and 3 of this must be 6*).

    6* are far too rare to put a restriction or gate of having. I can understand the 4* gates... as many players have a plethora of 5* (though maybe not ones that give the best synergies). I am sorry, but I just joined the rest of the community on this issue.
    The progress gate is explicitly intended to be unlikely for most players to already be past it, and non-trivial to eventually work across it. But I don't think @Kabam Miike meant that there would be some 5* gates and some 6* gates, I think he meant there would be some gates where you would need some minimum number of champions of 5* rarity or higher.

    If that's actually what he meant, he should probably clarify.
    Actually, I read it as some minimum number of champs of 6* rarity or higher. But I agree it’s unclear.

    Dr. Zola
    I have actually asked for clarification on this the first time within an hour of the initial post by Miike but it seems they are still working to correctly word their replay has they did with Miike's initial response
  • mum_m2mum_m2 Posts: 1,708 ★★★
    There still isn't anything worse than going through 5.3 100%

    Act 4 sucked but not as bad as the slowest fights in the game.
  • CrkwestCrkwest Posts: 328 ★★
    I have really bad 5*s (really really bad ones), and I managed to do act 5 100% with my rank 5 5* starlord and the rest were basically 4* apart from my 5* Luke Cage. Now that you guys are restricting us, what are the players with bad supposed to do? I have really bad luck and only have at the moment 3 good 5 star champions, the rest are all mediocre or memes. So obviously I'm not gonna rank them up. Now knowing that all my 4*s are worthless I have no choice but to go in with my 5* Groot and my 5* ant-man. In the case of ant-man, sure, he can be good with synergies, but I have bad luck and haven't got ghost ore the wasp! So what are we supposed to do? Pray we don't get another 20 levels on all our memes? I have opened o would say around 60 five star crystals, and have gotten 5 good pulls (starlord x2, ghost rider and Luke cage x2). So now what? I wait a year? Guess I'll be waiting a year to be able to do it. And guess what, the people that are whales and can spend money will only get better and better and us people without luck and money will just get left behind even more than we already are because we won't be able to complete it for a long long time. But hey, you guys never even read all of this, so I'm probably wasting my time here.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 20,050 ★★★★★
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    DrZola said:

    DNA3000 said:

    The requirements in Chapter 1 are set as a primer for rest of Act 6. Act 6 Chapter 2 and beyond will also have Champion Requirements, including some more stringent ones like paths that have Class Requirements for your entire team, and Rarity requirements where you must bring [X] amount of 5-Star or 6-Star Champions to complete the quest path.

    @Kabam Miike, Kabam absolutely lost my support of the 4* ban with this. I mean, Act 5 release was over the course of a few months. To go from a 4* gate, to path gates of 6* is a little too much, especially if you stagger class and rarity requirements (all must be Science and 3 of this must be 6*).

    6* are far too rare to put a restriction or gate of having. I can understand the 4* gates... as many players have a plethora of 5* (though maybe not ones that give the best synergies). I am sorry, but I just joined the rest of the community on this issue.
    The progress gate is explicitly intended to be unlikely for most players to already be past it, and non-trivial to eventually work across it. But I don't think @Kabam Miike meant that there would be some 5* gates and some 6* gates, I think he meant there would be some gates where you would need some minimum number of champions of 5* rarity or higher.

    If that's actually what he meant, he should probably clarify.
    Actually, I read it as some minimum number of champs of 6* rarity or higher. Otherwise, how is it more stringent than only 5/6*?

    But I agree it’s unclear.

    Dr. Zola
    What I believe he meant was that it's possible we could see gates that require either a minimum number of 5*s or 6*s, and/or Class Requirements.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 20,050 ★★★★★
    edited March 11
    Meaning you would have to have a certain number of the indicated Rarity. That's how I interpreted it.
  • Austin555555Austin555555 Posts: 1,965 ★★★★

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    DrZola said:

    DNA3000 said:

    The requirements in Chapter 1 are set as a primer for rest of Act 6. Act 6 Chapter 2 and beyond will also have Champion Requirements, including some more stringent ones like paths that have Class Requirements for your entire team, and Rarity requirements where you must bring [X] amount of 5-Star or 6-Star Champions to complete the quest path.

    @Kabam Miike, Kabam absolutely lost my support of the 4* ban with this. I mean, Act 5 release was over the course of a few months. To go from a 4* gate, to path gates of 6* is a little too much, especially if you stagger class and rarity requirements (all must be Science and 3 of this must be 6*).

    6* are far too rare to put a restriction or gate of having. I can understand the 4* gates... as many players have a plethora of 5* (though maybe not ones that give the best synergies). I am sorry, but I just joined the rest of the community on this issue.
    The progress gate is explicitly intended to be unlikely for most players to already be past it, and non-trivial to eventually work across it. But I don't think @Kabam Miike meant that there would be some 5* gates and some 6* gates, I think he meant there would be some gates where you would need some minimum number of champions of 5* rarity or higher.

    If that's actually what he meant, he should probably clarify.
    Actually, I read it as some minimum number of champs of 6* rarity or higher. Otherwise, how is it more stringent than only 5/6*?

    But I agree it’s unclear.

    Dr. Zola
    What I believe he meant was that it's possible we could see gates that require either a minimum number of 5*s or 6*s, and/or Class Requirements.
    Clearly we are. Champion requirement as well as star requirements. It’s gonna suck. Champion requirement, I’m not against but if star requirements is total bull ****. Let’s say there is a 6* Emma Frost gate, and you don’t have Emma in any star of her,. 6*s are hard enough to get, imagine just getting **** pulls screwing you over of a legends title because of RNG. The idea too restrict the star is total **** and should be removed permanently!
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 20,050 ★★★★★
    Yes. They stated 4*s would still remain very powerful, when 6*s were released. That they have. They didn't say you would be using them for every piece of content released, for the indefinite future. Act 6 is one aspect of Storymode. It's permanent content, and once you're done with it, that's it.
    Every other area, you can use 4*s, including ongoing content like Wars, EQ, Special Events, Challenges, AQ, etc. It's litetally one part of the game they can't be used. All of a sudden people are reacting as if they've just removed them from the game.
  • Austin555555Austin555555 Posts: 1,965 ★★★★

    Yes. They stated 4*s would still remain very powerful, when 6*s were released. That they have. They didn't say you would be using them for every piece of content released, for the indefinite future. Act 6 is one aspect of Storymode. It's permanent content, and once you're done with it, that's it.
    Every other area, you can use 4*s, including ongoing content like Wars, EQ, Special Events, Challenges, AQ, etc. It's litetally one part of the game they can't be used. All of a sudden people are reacting as if they've just removed them from the game.

    People are freaking out because this is screwing over F2P and mid-tier players who don’t have the requirements to do this and need the 4*s they have on their team because the RNG is against them. If it was an event that lasted a month and rarely showed up, it would be a different story, but this is permanent content. Having a star requirements on paths were one certain champ can last the entire thing is still a terrible idea. RNG should not determine whether you can do certain content. It can screw you over and prolong the content you could have gotten done month before with a 4* of the same champion
  • Scopeotoe987Scopeotoe987 Posts: 298
    edited March 11
    To work on a 4 star roster for years just to have it made kinda worthless, yes I know they can still be used in aw and aq, arena, and event quests, however getting champs that help you progress won’t work nearly at all, say you need void to go through a path, you can spend months or even years before getting him through RNG, and also how you said we will have champion requirement gates for certain characters in Act 6 or you have to have X amount of 6 stars is just a bad move, and I’m a causal player with nearly 3+ years of experience, I get a 5 star nearly every 2 months, and last month I got Colossus, Kamala Khan, and Superior Iron Man, again RNG, and the fun part is I only have 275 6 star shards. Now to tangle why 4 stars are still valuable,
    Synergy Teams
    Easy to get
    Can have champ needed for a gate
    Can have champ needed to beat content
    And much more, people were doing variant with a 3 star Heimdall, people were using 4 stars to beat Realm Of Legends, and in early and in sometimes late Labyrinth Of Legends , so why are they devalued here?
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