Suck it, Mercs

TheBair123TheBair123 Posts: 3,743 ★★★★★
https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/276220/regarding-7-2-legends-runs-mercs-and-the-future-of-the-legends-program

this is the most ballsy thing that kabam has done in a while. it is a huge win for everyone who hates cheaters and mercs, and now mercs are not going to have any source of income from legends run anymore. i know this is probably going to get closed, but just figured everyone should see this
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  • IKONIKON Posts: 1,215 ★★★★★
    tfdrp2 said:

    IKON said:

    It also ends the program for everyone else, not sure this is a win.

    It was already ended for "everyone else" when mercs would complete multiple legend runs for all their customers pushing out folks playing the game themselves.
    There are videos of several youtubers, as well as forum members, that disprove this.
  • IKONIKON Posts: 1,215 ★★★★★

    Can’t wait to see the arguments that unfold in this thread

    Let me get it started

    IKON said:

    tfdrp2 said:

    IKON said:

    It also ends the program for everyone else, not sure this is a win.

    It was already ended for "everyone else" when mercs would complete multiple legend runs for all their customers pushing out folks playing the game themselves.
    There are videos of several youtubers, as well as forum members, that disprove this.
    Source?
    Brian Grant, Lagacy.... They did their runs live. That's what he's referring to.
    Munash as well, forum member xNig is on the 7.1 list as well.

    This isn't to say that mercs aren't a problem, they very much are, but they're not the only ones who were able to do successful legends runs.

    This very much seems like a case of throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
  • BendyBendy Posts: 2,027 ★★★★
    This sucks to me considering i was gonna see about 7.3 or 7.4 legends run but now cancelling it sucks for me hope they find a way soon to do the new title where they can stop cheating
  • IKONIKON Posts: 1,215 ★★★★★
    ItsDamien said:

    IKON said:

    Can’t wait to see the arguments that unfold in this thread

    Let me get it started

    IKON said:

    tfdrp2 said:

    IKON said:

    It also ends the program for everyone else, not sure this is a win.

    It was already ended for "everyone else" when mercs would complete multiple legend runs for all their customers pushing out folks playing the game themselves.
    There are videos of several youtubers, as well as forum members, that disprove this.
    Source?
    Brian Grant, Lagacy.... They did their runs live. That's what he's referring to.
    Munash as well, forum member xNig is on the 7.1 list as well.

    This isn't to say that mercs aren't a problem, they very much are, but they're not the only ones who were able to do successful legends runs.

    This very much seems like a case of throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
    100s of man hours to weed out the cheaters is not worth the time. Could they implement harder restrictions? Sure. But then they just further alienate legitimate players. If they can't make it fair for all and practical in compiling the winners, then the easiest solution is no one gets to enjoy an additional incentive. May seem unfair to those who would run, but it's the most logical thing to do.
    Not worth the time is pretty strong argument, hadn't considered that.

    I honestly just don't understand how they implemented a VPN ban, but chose not to account for people who said "alright I'll just get a merc without a VPN then".

    At the end of the day though, this is clearly the mercs fault, not Kabams.
  • IKONIKON Posts: 1,215 ★★★★★
    edited August 9

    IKON said:

    ItsDamien said:

    IKON said:

    Can’t wait to see the arguments that unfold in this thread

    Let me get it started

    IKON said:

    tfdrp2 said:

    IKON said:

    It also ends the program for everyone else, not sure this is a win.

    It was already ended for "everyone else" when mercs would complete multiple legend runs for all their customers pushing out folks playing the game themselves.
    There are videos of several youtubers, as well as forum members, that disprove this.
    Source?
    Brian Grant, Lagacy.... They did their runs live. That's what he's referring to.
    Munash as well, forum member xNig is on the 7.1 list as well.

    This isn't to say that mercs aren't a problem, they very much are, but they're not the only ones who were able to do successful legends runs.

    This very much seems like a case of throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
    100s of man hours to weed out the cheaters is not worth the time. Could they implement harder restrictions? Sure. But then they just further alienate legitimate players. If they can't make it fair for all and practical in compiling the winners, then the easiest solution is no one gets to enjoy an additional incentive. May seem unfair to those who would run, but it's the most logical thing to do.
    Not worth the time is pretty strong argument, hadn't considered that.

    I honestly just don't understand how they implemented a VPN ban, but chose not to account for people who said "alright I'll just get a merc without a VPN then".

    At the end of the day though, this is clearly the mercs fault, not Kabams.
    Because there might have been legit people who were traveling.
    They wouldn't be banned for that though, just disqualified from eligibility on the legends run.

    There are people who have legit reasons to use a VPN, but it also disqualifies you from a legends run, not sure why travel couldn't be the same.
  • Wiredawg1Wiredawg1 Posts: 329 ★★★
    It’s not really a win. As this does hurt some players taking away the run cause of the rewards….yes kabam does need to do something about the mercs. With that said. The eq legend runs with mercs are just as bad if not worse and nothing being done there
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Posts: 14,205 ★★★★★
    IKON said:

    IKON said:

    ItsDamien said:

    IKON said:

    Can’t wait to see the arguments that unfold in this thread

    Let me get it started

    IKON said:

    tfdrp2 said:

    IKON said:

    It also ends the program for everyone else, not sure this is a win.

    It was already ended for "everyone else" when mercs would complete multiple legend runs for all their customers pushing out folks playing the game themselves.
    There are videos of several youtubers, as well as forum members, that disprove this.
    Source?
    Brian Grant, Lagacy.... They did their runs live. That's what he's referring to.
    Munash as well, forum member xNig is on the 7.1 list as well.

    This isn't to say that mercs aren't a problem, they very much are, but they're not the only ones who were able to do successful legends runs.

    This very much seems like a case of throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
    100s of man hours to weed out the cheaters is not worth the time. Could they implement harder restrictions? Sure. But then they just further alienate legitimate players. If they can't make it fair for all and practical in compiling the winners, then the easiest solution is no one gets to enjoy an additional incentive. May seem unfair to those who would run, but it's the most logical thing to do.
    Not worth the time is pretty strong argument, hadn't considered that.

    I honestly just don't understand how they implemented a VPN ban, but chose not to account for people who said "alright I'll just get a merc without a VPN then".

    At the end of the day though, this is clearly the mercs fault, not Kabams.
    Because there might have been legit people who were traveling.
    They wouldn't be banned for that though, just disqualified from eligibility on the legends run.

    There are people who have legit reasons to use a VPN, but it also disqualifies you from a legends run, not sure why travel couldn't be the same.
    I know. They said it was too hard for them to determine who was legit traveling or who used a Merc that didn't use a VPN.
  • IKONIKON Posts: 1,215 ★★★★★

    IKON said:

    IKON said:

    ItsDamien said:

    IKON said:

    Can’t wait to see the arguments that unfold in this thread

    Let me get it started

    IKON said:

    tfdrp2 said:

    IKON said:

    It also ends the program for everyone else, not sure this is a win.

    It was already ended for "everyone else" when mercs would complete multiple legend runs for all their customers pushing out folks playing the game themselves.
    There are videos of several youtubers, as well as forum members, that disprove this.
    Source?
    Brian Grant, Lagacy.... They did their runs live. That's what he's referring to.
    Munash as well, forum member xNig is on the 7.1 list as well.

    This isn't to say that mercs aren't a problem, they very much are, but they're not the only ones who were able to do successful legends runs.

    This very much seems like a case of throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
    100s of man hours to weed out the cheaters is not worth the time. Could they implement harder restrictions? Sure. But then they just further alienate legitimate players. If they can't make it fair for all and practical in compiling the winners, then the easiest solution is no one gets to enjoy an additional incentive. May seem unfair to those who would run, but it's the most logical thing to do.
    Not worth the time is pretty strong argument, hadn't considered that.

    I honestly just don't understand how they implemented a VPN ban, but chose not to account for people who said "alright I'll just get a merc without a VPN then".

    At the end of the day though, this is clearly the mercs fault, not Kabams.
    Because there might have been legit people who were traveling.
    They wouldn't be banned for that though, just disqualified from eligibility on the legends run.

    There are people who have legit reasons to use a VPN, but it also disqualifies you from a legends run, not sure why travel couldn't be the same.
    I know. They said it was too hard for them to determine who was legit traveling or who used a Merc that didn't use a VPN.
    Sure, but I meant going forward with 7.3 so you don't have to distinguish.
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