Season 38 Blacklist... How is this possible?

LilMaddogHTLilMaddogHT Member Posts: 1,203 ★★★★
in General Discussion
Now I really could care less about who in on the Blacklist - we will manage but how on earth is Dr Doom the 2nd champ in Expert Tier to be blacklisted... ? Expert Tier was all Conduit tactic and while Doom can do non-Conduit fights, he cannot do a single Conduit fight. And while my sample size may be small/incomplete, I never once saw a Dr Doom ban from any of our wars and the countless of YT war videos I've watched.

Apoc, CGR, Tigra, Quake, WhMags... Those are about the only other bans I've seen for S38. I was expecting to see the blacklist be Kingpin and Apoc. 🧐

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/317635/alliance-wars-season-38-changelog#latest

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  • TheBair123TheBair123 Member Posts: 5,344 ★★★★★
    11/12 wars we had apoc banned. we had doom available every single war. makes no sense
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,058 ★★★★★
    I used KP all season except last 2 wars. We're in plat 4. Ghost was banned more often than KP.
  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 5,171 ★★★★★
    edited October 2022
    LilMaddogHT said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    I used KP all season except last 2 wars. We're in plat 4. Ghost was banned more often than KP.

    That is not Expert Tier so the range of wars and bans is huge as you have the choice to pick your tactics. In Tier 1/Expert it was always Conduit/SickNTired
    He is talking about kingpin not even being banned in challanger wars rather than expert.
    It's same situation for challenger too.
    Kingpin was available almost always.


    And kids: thats how you sell new champ like irondoom for hazard nodes.
  • AMS94AMS94 Member Posts: 1,776 ★★★★★
    I didn't see a single Doom ban throughout the season
    Not in my alliance
    Not in my opponent alliances
    Not in any of my friend's alliances
    And not even in YouTube war videos
  • Panchulon21Panchulon21 Member Posts: 2,605 ★★★★★
    I saw doom banned once or twice.

    Kingpin I saw banned once or twice also. I’m in tier 3/4
  • CoatHang3rCoatHang3r Member Posts: 4,965 ★★★★★
    Numbers.

    First l, t1-2 (where the tactics are static) represent 10% of the bans that determine who is banned where t3-5 represent the other 90% of bans.

    Second, t3-5 play with all available tactics (most importantly the new tactics people have not adapted to) and have likely moved past the use of an old tactic t1-2 now play with.

    This means t1-2 have little say in who is banned and t3-5 playing with the newest tactics determine who is banned.
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    pseudosane said:

    SirGamesBond said:

    LilMaddogHT said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    I used KP all season except last 2 wars. We're in plat 4. Ghost was banned more often than KP.

    That is not Expert Tier so the range of wars and bans is huge as you have the choice to pick your tactics. In Tier 1/Expert it was always Conduit/SickNTired
    He is talking about kingpin not even being banned in challanger wars rather than expert.
    It's same situation for challenger too.
    Kingpin was available almost always.


    And kids: thats how you sell new champ like irondoom for hazard nodes.
    you dont need iron doom lol. Not once did i feel like i needed him.
    Not to mention they’re pretty much never needed for the same fight. They’re entirely different champions with the same name. It’s like saying they’re banning Falcon to sell you Cap Sam, there’s almost no overlap.
  • GomezlinkGomezlink Member Posts: 231 ★
    edited October 2022
    Really? Kingpin was banned more than Hercules? Or is it blacklisted because of the new boss node?
  • DeaconDeacon Member Posts: 4,254 ★★★★★
    I questioned the S99 ban last season and especially now with these new ones .... I have no idea who they're picking info from but you never see these guys banned .. it is RARE yet here we are.
  • Wozzle007Wozzle007 Member Posts: 1,033 ★★★★★
    In T4 he was banned probably 70% of our wars. I don’t think King Pin was banned once in any of our wars.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,058 ★★★★★
    LilMaddogHT said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    I used KP all season except last 2 wars. We're in plat 4. Ghost was banned more often than KP.

    That is not Expert Tier so the range of wars and bans is huge as you have the choice to pick your tactics. In Tier 1/Expert it was always Conduit/SickNTired
    I know it's not expert tier. Tiers 1/2 don't represent more than tiers 3-5. KP is blacklisted in both ong with Doom who others are saying were never banned.

    Point is, neither selections make sense.
  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 5,171 ★★★★★
    pseudosane said:

    SirGamesBond said:

    LilMaddogHT said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    I used KP all season except last 2 wars. We're in plat 4. Ghost was banned more often than KP.

    That is not Expert Tier so the range of wars and bans is huge as you have the choice to pick your tactics. In Tier 1/Expert it was always Conduit/SickNTired
    He is talking about kingpin not even being banned in challanger wars rather than expert.
    It's same situation for challenger too.
    Kingpin was available almost always.


    And kids: thats how you sell new champ like irondoom for hazard nodes.
    you dont need iron doom lol. Not once did i feel like i needed him.
    If they can troll about Champs ban in different tiers, I can troll about champion sales.
    Yes, that comment was made in bad taste.
    T345 used KP for shock+incin mid mini.
    Had a cgr in my BG to tackle it.

    But t1-2 and t345 needs different bans.
    The wars are not of same intensity between expert and challenger.
  • Nameless_IWNameless_IW Member Posts: 1,048 ★★★★
    this is quite simple. Kabam decided to blacklist Kingpin because he was easily soloing the knull bosses. plain and simple. lets call it like it is and stop going around the bush.
  • Nameless_IWNameless_IW Member Posts: 1,048 ★★★★
    it is affecting someone's pocket thats why Kingpin needed to be blacklisted lol
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,058 ★★★★★
    Nameless_IW said:

    it is affecting someone's pocket thats why Kingpin needed to be blacklisted lol

    Yes, let's just skip all the discussions and go straight to conspiracy theories.
  • LordSmasherLordSmasher Member Posts: 1,578 ★★★★★
    Demonzfyre said:

    Nameless_IW said:

    it is affecting someone's pocket thats why Kingpin needed to be blacklisted lol

    Yes, let's just skip all the discussions and go straight to conspiracy theories.
    When you've eliminated all other possibilities, then what's left, no matter how ridiculous, must be the cause!
  • Yodabolt21Yodabolt21 Member Posts: 2,594 ★★★★★
    Kingpin was banned in nearly every war video I saw. There is no “conspiracy” because he soloed Knull bosses. Kingpin was banned because he walks through hazard shift nodes, path 4 and yes, mostly all war stuff.

    The fact that people are claiming a conspiracy is mind blowing to me.

    Now, Doom being banned…. That I am not so sure about.
  • De_Potato_SaladDe_Potato_Salad Member Posts: 471 ★★★
    Path 9 player here, kingpin being banned is absolutely **** my plans for the season 🤣
  • zuffyzuffy Member Posts: 2,247 ★★★★★
    De_Potato_Salad said:

    Path 9 player here, kingpin being banned is absolutely **** my plans for the season 🤣

    In tier 4. Totally screw my season 38.
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  • Lvernon15Lvernon15 Member Posts: 11,598 ★★★★★
    SunRice said:

    Wtf Doom is doing there?!

    Kabam not doing things properly as usual
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