How to protect yourself against cheaters?

How do you protect yourself against cheaters? What if you are an open alliance and some creep joins up, makes a move or two, and then gets the whole alliance disciplined? Anyone actually read the terms of service and know what is considered cheating? Is someone buying an account cheating, what about account sharing?

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Earth_Rick_c137

Nothing?! 60+ views and no one has a suggestion for protecting your alliance against cheaters.

TheOneAndOnly

Earth_Rick_c137 wrote: »

Nothing?! 60+ views and no one has a suggestion for protecting your alliance against cheaters.

I'd say close the alliance. Open alliances generally attract more of the nefarious end users anyways. It makes it more work on your officers and on the leader to manage the functions (recruiting, kicking, etc.) within the alliance, but it safeguards you somewhat from just anyone joining.

TheOneAndOnly

Earth_Rick_c137 wrote: »

How do you protect yourself against cheaters? What if you are an open alliance and some creep joins up, makes a move or two, and then gets the whole alliance disciplined? Anyone actually read the terms of service and know what is considered cheating? Is someone buying an account cheating, what about account sharing?

There are multiple things here that need to be clarified:
1. The penalty for hacking the game is serious and could get the guilty user banned. Yes, if done during a war or during AQ it could also affect the rest of the alliance.
2. The penalty for account sharing is considered serious too. In instances where account sharing has been used to win wars Kabam has considered it cheating and has disqualified wins which again affects the whole alliance.
3. Buying and selling accounts is breaking Kabam's terms of service. Someone caught doing that would most likely be banned if I had to guess. Not sure how it would affect the alliance as a whole though.

Earth_Rick_c137

Kabam recently penalized our alliance, dropping us 1500+ spots in season rankings, hundreds of points of war rating, and thus multiple tiers.

The real kick in the teeth is we don't know who the perp was, and Kabam refuses to give us anything to go on. It could still be someone in the alliance. We have been tracking all of the most recent members that we have kicked for suspicious activity and they all seem to have joined up with other alliances. Frankly, we're baffled and don't know how to move forward. Some of our most trusted senior officers want to take a "cross your fingers" approach and hope we don't get screwed again.

Earth_Rick_c137

We have kicked unskilled players with beefy rosters because we suspected them of buying their account. We have reported guys in our alliance who we've seen complete lol when they didn't have either the skill or the roster. We have a strict policy against account sharing for fear of it being misconstrued by Kabam.

We have gone to great lengths already to protect ourselves and yet we get screwed. This latest sanction has set us back months.

420sam

Earth_Rick_c137 wrote: »

We have kicked unskilled players with beefy rosters because we suspected them of buying their account. We have reported guys in our alliance who we've seen complete lol when they didn't have either the skill or the roster. We have a strict policy against account sharing for fear of it being misconstrued by Kabam.

We have gone to great lengths already to protect ourselves and yet we get screwed. This latest sanction has set us back months.

It's one war when you can run 3 per week. That is not a huge setback and is not something that will affect you for months. I'd suggest if you are unsure of who the perp is in this instance run 1 or 2 BGs with just those that you know and trust to start with. And look for suspicious action in other areas to continue to make cuts.

TheDemon

You must be a pretty low level alliance if you are "open" and if one war result is going to set you back for months. Might be time to hang it up if that is the case.

Earth_Rick_c137 wrote: »

We have kicked unskilled players with beefy rosters because we suspected them of buying their account. We have reported guys in our alliance who we've seen complete lol when they didn't have either the skill or the roster. We have a strict policy against account sharing for fear of it being misconstrued by Kabam.

We have gone to great lengths already to protect ourselves and yet we get screwed. This latest sanction has set us back months.

Earth_Rick_c137

Really?! You guys think this is funny? We're not talking about the results of 1 war, we were penalized hundreds of war rating points, dropping us 3-4 tiers and causing us to lose 1500+ spots in the seasonal rankings

TheDemon

Earth_Rick_c137 wrote: »

Really?! You guys think this is funny? We're not talking about the results of 1 war, we were penalized hundreds of war rating points, dropping us 3-4 tiers and causing us to lose 1500+ spots in the seasonal rankings

Not laughing at you, laughing at how gloomy you are reacting to this situation.

Let's do the math here. A war victory gets you roughly 50 points. 3 wars per week over 8 weeks is 24 total wars. Yes, it sucks losing the points and the rating for one war, but you have a lot of time left to work your way up. What tier are you currently? I'm guessing at best you are tier 12, maybe tier 13 or 14. If that is the case they moving up will be easy. There is very little separation among those tiers.

Earth_Rick_c137

We were tier 5 making it to 4 occasionally and we dropped to 7

SpiritOfVengeance

Honestly I get why kabam can't tell who the cheater in an alliance is but they should at least tell the leader because the leader is the one who has full control and if the leader does not know then some members may feel unsafe fighting alongside this cheater. So overall to help alliances remain positive kabam should tell the leader only in an in game mail or something exactly what happened and who or what this person has done so that the leader can sort out the alliance by removing the cheater.

Spera

The person who violated the tos should get a temp ban from joining an allience .
That would sort things out I think

Illogix

If an entire alliance is penalized for the actions of one person, kabam should remove them from the alliance and give them a permanent ban.

LeNoirFaineant

Even if it doesn't deserve a permanent ban how can they leave the alliance in this position? What are the options? Disband, have a witch hunt, or risk it happening again I suppose.

ss1100

i find your alli weird actually... you're a tier 4/5 alli and you guys are open alli?? not to say its impossible but.. wow

Snaggle

Become a clone of Seatin.

DNA3000

Earth_Rick_c137 wrote: »

We have kicked unskilled players with beefy rosters because we suspected them of buying their account. We have reported guys in our alliance who we've seen complete lol when they didn't have either the skill or the roster. We have a strict policy against account sharing for fear of it being misconstrued by Kabam.

We have gone to great lengths already to protect ourselves and yet we get screwed. This latest sanction has set us back months.

It sucks, but it probably hasn't set you back months. If you can legitimately compete at your original tier, dropping you two or more tiers means you will be fighting much weaker competition. You should start winning at a higher rate, and that higher rate of wins will come with a 50k point bonus you wouldn't have gotten with the higher multiplier but more frequent losses. Eventually you should climb back to the original tier, and while the point loss is substantial, its probably less than it first appears because of the counter-action of winning more wars. It won't completely make up the loss in season points, but it will soften it a bit.

Darkstar4387

You have to be vigilant and keep watch of aq, aw, the champions they have, thier titles , rating and level and try to nip it in the bud before it gets our of hand.

Say they have the rol or lol only champions and other titles that they shouldn't have at their rating and level that's a good indicator that they're cheating.

If they blow through linked nodes in aq and aw and kill the bosses of both in high tiers of both with low champions without taking damage then that's a good indicator that they're hacking and need to be removed imeditenly.

If you opponents kill high bosses that still have 4+ nodes up with weak champions then you need to report them.

If people ask for your account information don't give it to them, if they ask your alliance for it get rid of them they can't get into your account any other ways.

If you do these or close or make your alliance by request only you won't have any issues with hackers and can protect your alliance.

LeNoirFaineant

ss1100 wrote: »

i find your alli weird actually... you're a tier 4/5 alli and you guys are open alli?? not to say its impossible but.. wow

Open or closed doesn't matter if you are full. And if you kick a guy and a low guy joins you can always boot him too. We are by request but it doesn't matter much

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bm3epps

Earth_Rick_c137 wrote: »

We have kicked unskilled players with beefy rosters because we suspected them of buying their account. We have reported guys in our alliance who we've seen complete lol when they didn't have either the skill or the roster. We have a strict policy against account sharing for fear of it being misconstrued by Kabam.

We have gone to great lengths already to protect ourselves and yet we get screwed. This latest sanction has set us back months.

Money trumps skills and roster's anyday..they could just be big spenders and could buy things that's useful when questing (revives, boosts, etc..) some do may be cheating but in some instances thats not the case

Rap

Is everyone having fun yet?

Crine60

How to protect yourself from cheaters? Make sure they spend a lot of $, anecdotal evidence is Kabam doesn't punish cheaters who spend like a certain YouTube individual who is an admitted cheater. Ridiculous.

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Kabam Ahab

If a player is found to have been cheating, appropriate actions will be taken against their account(s)/alliance. Due to our privacy policy however, we will be unable to provide details to you regarding the result of the investigation. For further information on this topic, please see this post.