Is Archangel Overrated?

taojay1taojay1 Posts: 1,062 ★★★
Clearly, aa is one of the best damage dealers in game and also possesses a strong heal block/ability accuracy reduction. However, the more I think about it, he doesn't seem all that good as he is hyped up to be. First of all, he requires the opponent to be both bleed/poison vulnerable. Without this, he cannot place neurotoxins. Second, he struggles on stun immune/limber nodes, because of the reliance on heavy attacks. Next, he requires you to take block damage in order to poison the opponent. I've recently been exploring act 5 and the chip damage from blocks is pretty high. So it seems to me that other than in war or very specific story paths, he isn't that great? Someone change my mind

Comments

  • He’s not overrated at all you just have to understand that he can’t do anything to poison or bleed immunes
  • Patchie93Patchie93 Posts: 1,422 ★★★
    And just so you know his Neuro toxins expiring will stun a stun immune aw boss. And he has multiple ways of getting poison besides blocking and of getting bleed besides heavy.
    Heavy is just the most efficient way.
  • PureRage13PureRage13 Posts: 164
    taojay1 wrote: »
    Clearly, aa is one of the best damage dealers in game and also possesses a strong heal block/ability accuracy reduction. However, the more I think about it, he doesn't seem all that good as he is hyped up to be. First of all, he requires the opponent to be both bleed/poison vulnerable. Without this, he cannot place neurotoxins. Second, he struggles on stun immune/limber nodes, because of the reliance on heavy attacks. Next, he requires you to take block damage in order to poison the opponent. I've recently been exploring act 5 and the chip damage from blocks is pretty high. So it seems to me that other than in war or very specific story paths, he isn't that great? Someone change my mind

    No, he's quite awesome. There are fights where he's not that great but all champs should be that way. That's why you build a team. He's a awesome, balanced champion.
  • DukeZmanDukeZman Posts: 545 ★★★
    He’s not overrated. He’s just not a silver bullet for every situation
  • ESFESF Posts: 961 ★★★
    Dizzy wrote: »
    I will say, I've always been annoyed by the people who downvote Quake because she's ineffective in some fights (e.g., Power Gain) but insist Archangel is godly when he also has his limitations. Sure, his dps is through the roof, but that's still a lot of caveats for using him.

    I loved my 4* Archangel when I first pulled / awakened him, but I was running Act 4 at that time. Nowadays, I rarely take him into battle and will typically opt for Iceman instead when it comes to Mutants, since 4* Sparky has become my main damage dealer.

    Exactly how I feel. Amazing in some fights, no doubt, but those fights are not plentiful many times

  • Vivek_786Vivek_786 Posts: 162
    It's okay buddy,the main thing is thanos infinity war is neither bleed immune nor poison immune,which can be easily defeated by aa.
    And of course there are many champions who are not bleed as well as poison immune ,so he done major role at exploration of any act
  • DoctorJDoctorJ Posts: 842 ★★★
    I wouldnt say hes overrated but definitely has some situations he isnt good in. Hes definitely not my cup of tea.
  • LordNegrotronLordNegrotron Posts: 241
    I love using AA. For stun immune, learn to not rely on heavy attacks and rely on combos and specials and you’re set. Stun and debuff immune? Just fight better. AA is a good example of a really good but balanced champ. You shouldn’t be able to do everything with him, and you shouldn’t be able to do everything with Blade
  • vinniegainzvinniegainz Posts: 886 ★★★
    I could not relate less to the o.p.

    I say this because as we speak ive been exploring act 5.4... And with my immense roster 4/55 sparky, blade, medusa and 5/50 iceman... I still find myself putting a 4/40 AA on my team over my iceman, 3/45 quake, 5/50 SW 3/45 rogue, 5/50 hype etc. (Just got 5.4.6 to 100% now). The only time ive taken AA off my team was for the biohazard/caltrop paths.

    His dps is hyperion level aka more than medusa. He really is incredible and definately not over hyped. Bleed immune is his downfall, but stun immune no.


    Like others said you learn to fight with his specials and there are quite a lot of champs with specials and heavies in which you can counter-strike with a heavy of your own.
  • rockykostonrockykoston Posts: 750
    For a game that mostly lags on Android, AA is a godsend champ, he brought down my first master thanos to 15% in just 5 heavies.
  • Ou_YeahOu_Yeah Posts: 45
    Blade is not so effective against bleed immune heroes. Therefore he is overrated.
  • phillgreenphillgreen Posts: 1,756 ★★★
    His dash back is definitely overrated.

  • My_SuperiorMy_Superior Posts: 1,878 ★★★★
    I want Angel (Classic) but that’s cause I’m a rebel.
  • MagrailothosMagrailothos Posts: 2,220 ★★★★
    I want Angel (Classic) but that’s cause I’m a rebel.

    Actually, he could be a fun design; but would probably end up a fairly weak champion. That would be okay, because (1) the contest does actually need some weak champions, and (2) Angel was by far the weakest of the original X-men.
  • AegonTAegonT Posts: 150
    I want Angel (Classic) but that’s cause I’m a rebel.

    Actually, he could be a fun design; but would probably end up a fairly weak champion. That would be okay, because (1) the contest does actually need some weak champions, and (2) Angel was by far the weakest of the original X-men.

    How dare you!!?!!? If the original X-men ever needed someone to fly through rings for any reason at all Angel was the mutant for the job!
  • 2nd_slingshot2nd_slingshot Posts: 212
    Wait till 5.4 modok says hi. Then you know how useful he is. He always replaces my 3/45 iceman.
  • My_SuperiorMy_Superior Posts: 1,878 ★★★★
    edited May 2018
    Angel has a lot of useful powers based on the anatomy of a bird; Increased muscle mass, hollow bones, better balance, eyesight, and reflexes, his lungs require less oxygen, He even has an increased healing factor though I’m not sure that has anything to do with birds, and he is one of the 500 richest men in the world... While he wouldn’t be on Archangel’s level as an attacker, he would probably have stronger synergy as a teammate and could be a better defender depending on how evasive they make him.
  • My_SuperiorMy_Superior Posts: 1,878 ★★★★
    ... Not to mention his pigeon wings.
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