Is Archangel Overrated?

taojay1taojay1 Member Posts: 1,062 ★★★
Clearly, aa is one of the best damage dealers in game and also possesses a strong heal block/ability accuracy reduction. However, the more I think about it, he doesn't seem all that good as he is hyped up to be. First of all, he requires the opponent to be both bleed/poison vulnerable. Without this, he cannot place neurotoxins. Second, he struggles on stun immune/limber nodes, because of the reliance on heavy attacks. Next, he requires you to take block damage in order to poison the opponent. I've recently been exploring act 5 and the chip damage from blocks is pretty high. So it seems to me that other than in war or very specific story paths, he isn't that great? Someone change my mind
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  • PureRage13PureRage13 Member Posts: 164
    taojay1 wrote: »
    Clearly, aa is one of the best damage dealers in game and also possesses a strong heal block/ability accuracy reduction. However, the more I think about it, he doesn't seem all that good as he is hyped up to be. First of all, he requires the opponent to be both bleed/poison vulnerable. Without this, he cannot place neurotoxins. Second, he struggles on stun immune/limber nodes, because of the reliance on heavy attacks. Next, he requires you to take block damage in order to poison the opponent. I've recently been exploring act 5 and the chip damage from blocks is pretty high. So it seems to me that other than in war or very specific story paths, he isn't that great? Someone change my mind

    No, he's quite awesome. There are fights where he's not that great but all champs should be that way. That's why you build a team. He's a awesome, balanced champion.
  • ESFESF Member Posts: 2,011 ★★★★★
    Dizzy wrote: »
    I will say, I've always been annoyed by the people who downvote Quake because she's ineffective in some fights (e.g., Power Gain) but insist Archangel is godly when he also has his limitations. Sure, his dps is through the roof, but that's still a lot of caveats for using him.

    I loved my 4* Archangel when I first pulled / awakened him, but I was running Act 4 at that time. Nowadays, I rarely take him into battle and will typically opt for Iceman instead when it comes to Mutants, since 4* Sparky has become my main damage dealer.

    Exactly how I feel. Amazing in some fights, no doubt, but those fights are not plentiful many times

  • Vivek_786Vivek_786 Member Posts: 217
    It's okay buddy,the main thing is thanos infinity war is neither bleed immune nor poison immune,which can be easily defeated by aa.
    And of course there are many champions who are not bleed as well as poison immune ,so he done major role at exploration of any act
  • DoctorJDoctorJ Member Posts: 842 ★★★
    I wouldnt say hes overrated but definitely has some situations he isnt good in. Hes definitely not my cup of tea.
  • vinniegainzvinniegainz Member Posts: 902 ★★★
    I could not relate less to the o.p.

    I say this because as we speak ive been exploring act 5.4... And with my immense roster 4/55 sparky, blade, medusa and 5/50 iceman... I still find myself putting a 4/40 AA on my team over my iceman, 3/45 quake, 5/50 SW 3/45 rogue, 5/50 hype etc. (Just got 5.4.6 to 100% now). The only time ive taken AA off my team was for the biohazard/caltrop paths.

    His dps is hyperion level aka more than medusa. He really is incredible and definately not over hyped. Bleed immune is his downfall, but stun immune no.


    Like others said you learn to fight with his specials and there are quite a lot of champs with specials and heavies in which you can counter-strike with a heavy of your own.
  • rockykostonrockykoston Member Posts: 1,505 ★★★★
    For a game that mostly lags on Android, AA is a godsend champ, he brought down my first master thanos to 15% in just 5 heavies.
  • Ou_YeahOu_Yeah Member Posts: 45
    Blade is not so effective against bleed immune heroes. Therefore he is overrated.
  • phillgreenphillgreen Member Posts: 3,966 ★★★★★
    His dash back is definitely overrated.

  • MagrailothosMagrailothos Member Posts: 5,814 ★★★★★
    I want Angel (Classic) but that’s cause I’m a rebel.

    Actually, he could be a fun design; but would probably end up a fairly weak champion. That would be okay, because (1) the contest does actually need some weak champions, and (2) Angel was by far the weakest of the original X-men.
  • AegonTAegonT Member Posts: 156
    I want Angel (Classic) but that’s cause I’m a rebel.

    Actually, he could be a fun design; but would probably end up a fairly weak champion. That would be okay, because (1) the contest does actually need some weak champions, and (2) Angel was by far the weakest of the original X-men.

    How dare you!!?!!? If the original X-men ever needed someone to fly through rings for any reason at all Angel was the mutant for the job!
  • 2nd_slingshot2nd_slingshot Member Posts: 233
    Wait till 5.4 modok says hi. Then you know how useful he is. He always replaces my 3/45 iceman.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,482 ★★★★★
    Holy Necro Batman!
  • SleipnirrodSleipnirrod Member Posts: 228 ★★
    ESF said:



    Dizzy wrote: »

    I will say, I've always been annoyed by the people who downvote Quake because she's ineffective in some fights (e.g., Power Gain) but insist Archangel is godly when he also has his limitations. Sure, his dps is through the roof, but that's still a lot of caveats for using him.


    I loved my 4* Archangel when I first pulled / awakened him, but I was running Act 4 at that time. Nowadays, I rarely take him into battle and will typically opt for Iceman instead when it comes to Mutants, since 4* Sparky has become my main damage dealer.


    Exactly how I feel. Amazing in some fights, no doubt, but those fights are not plentiful many times



    That's why we have 5 character slots, so we have 5 characters balanced between each other and each with their own style and usage.
  • Jenk6225Jenk6225 Member Posts: 32
    I found out yesterday in case people may not know for AA. In 6.1.1 he cancels out the no retreat node with his neurotoxin. I was able to dash back as much as I wanted with no degen. 😁
  • Disgruntled_User_123Disgruntled_User_123 Member Posts: 1,090 ★★★
    Archangel is one of the best champions in the game. The OP made some valid points... but if AA has an ideal opponent, he’s likely a Top 3 option.
  • TehsigzorzTehsigzorz Member Posts: 1,233 ★★★★
    flomer said:

    Repeat please..


    3000 dmg per second without bother..

    This is pretty much the perfect matchup so not really sure how this proves OPs point on his weaknesses and downfalls
  • PolygonPolygon Member Posts: 4,336 ★★★★★
    Ive barely been playing this game half a year and got cavalier because of AA, so tell me, is he overrated?
  • ZuroZuro Member Posts: 2,842 ★★★★★
    This post is legit 2 years old...
  • SupperHero4SalesSupperHero4Sales Member Posts: 85
    Not many Champions have both Bleed and Poison Immunity within the Skill-Class which has weakness versus Mutant and nor does Tech-Class which counters the Mutant-Class. Additionally he does have a few decent External Synergies depending on who you partner him with too.

    Compared to Colossus; Arch-Angel would be an upgrade for potential Damage-Per-Second with many useful Utility options. Only Wolverine could rival Arch with Bleed Damage amongst his Health Regeneration for a strong combination of Damage and Defense. Having both Arch-Angel and DarkHawk has allowed me to become comfortable with both play-styles.
  • HowLongBeforeUDeleteHowLongBeforeUDelete Member Posts: 8
    flomer said:

    Repeat please..


    3000 dmg per second without bother..

    Damage ticks at half second intervals so that is 6k per second
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