Is Archangel Overrated?

Clearly, aa is one of the best damage dealers in game and also possesses a strong heal block/ability accuracy reduction. However, the more I think about it, he doesn't seem all that good as he is hyped up to be. First of all, he requires the opponent to be both bleed/poison vulnerable. Without this, he cannot place neurotoxins. Second, he struggles on stun immune/limber nodes, because of the reliance on heavy attacks. Next, he requires you to take block damage in order to poison the opponent. I've recently been exploring act 5 and the chip damage from blocks is pretty high. So it seems to me that other than in war or very specific story paths, he isn't that great? Someone change my mind

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AegonT

I think he’s properly rated. A really well balanced champ. A great solution to some fights, totally useless in other ones. I think that’s good design.

Animatronicsto

He’s not overrated at all you just have to understand that he can’t do anything to poison or bleed immunes

Patchie93

And just so you know his Neuro toxins expiring will stun a stun immune aw boss. And he has multiple ways of getting poison besides blocking and of getting bleed besides heavy.
Heavy is just the most efficient way.

Dizzy

I will say, I've always been annoyed by the people who downvote Quake because she's ineffective in some fights (e.g., Power Gain) but insist Archangel is godly when he also has his limitations. Sure, his dps is through the roof, but that's still a lot of caveats for using him.

I loved my 4* Archangel when I first pulled / awakened him, but I was running Act 4 at that time. Nowadays, I rarely take him into battle and will typically opt for Iceman instead when it comes to Mutants, since 4* Sparky has become my main damage dealer.

PureRage13

taojay1 wrote: »

Clearly, aa is one of the best damage dealers in game and also possesses a strong heal block/ability accuracy reduction. However, the more I think about it, he doesn't seem all that good as he is hyped up to be. First of all, he requires the opponent to be both bleed/poison vulnerable. Without this, he cannot place neurotoxins. Second, he struggles on stun immune/limber nodes, because of the reliance on heavy attacks. Next, he requires you to take block damage in order to poison the opponent. I've recently been exploring act 5 and the chip damage from blocks is pretty high. So it seems to me that other than in war or very specific story paths, he isn't that great? Someone change my mind

No, he's quite awesome. There are fights where he's not that great but all champs should be that way. That's why you build a team. He's a awesome, balanced champion.

DukeZman

He’s not overrated. He’s just not a silver bullet for every situation

ESF

Dizzy wrote: »

I will say, I've always been annoyed by the people who downvote Quake because she's ineffective in some fights (e.g., Power Gain) but insist Archangel is godly when he also has his limitations. Sure, his dps is through the roof, but that's still a lot of caveats for using him.

I loved my 4* Archangel when I first pulled / awakened him, but I was running Act 4 at that time. Nowadays, I rarely take him into battle and will typically opt for Iceman instead when it comes to Mutants, since 4* Sparky has become my main damage dealer.

Exactly how I feel. Amazing in some fights, no doubt, but those fights are not plentiful many times

Vivek_786

It's okay buddy,the main thing is thanos infinity war is neither bleed immune nor poison immune,which can be easily defeated by aa.
And of course there are many champions who are not bleed as well as poison immune ,so he done major role at exploration of any act

DoctorJ

I wouldnt say hes overrated but definitely has some situations he isnt good in. Hes definitely not my cup of tea.

LordBaldyBald

I love using AA. For stun immune, learn to not rely on heavy attacks and rely on combos and specials and you’re set. Stun and debuff immune? Just fight better. AA is a good example of a really good but balanced champ. You shouldn’t be able to do everything with him, and you shouldn’t be able to do everything with Blade

vinniegainz

I could not relate less to the o.p.

I say this because as we speak ive been exploring act 5.4... And with my immense roster 4/55 sparky, blade, medusa and 5/50 iceman... I still find myself putting a 4/40 AA on my team over my iceman, 3/45 quake, 5/50 SW 3/45 rogue, 5/50 hype etc. (Just got 5.4.6 to 100% now). The only time ive taken AA off my team was for the biohazard/caltrop paths.

His dps is hyperion level aka more than medusa. He really is incredible and definately not over hyped. Bleed immune is his downfall, but stun immune no.

Like others said you learn to fight with his specials and there are quite a lot of champs with specials and heavies in which you can counter-strike with a heavy of your own.

CapWW2

Yes he is overrated

rockykoston

For a game that mostly lags on Android, AA is a godsend champ, he brought down my first master thanos to 15% in just 5 heavies.

Ou_Yeah

Blade is not so effective against bleed immune heroes. Therefore he is overrated.

phillgreen

His dash back is definitely overrated.

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Magrailothos

My_Superior wrote: »

I want Angel (Classic) but that’s cause I’m a rebel.

Actually, he could be a fun design; but would probably end up a fairly weak champion. That would be okay, because (1) the contest does actually need some weak champions, and (2) Angel was by far the weakest of the original X-men.

AegonT

Magrailothos wrote: »

My_Superior wrote: »

I want Angel (Classic) but that’s cause I’m a rebel.

Actually, he could be a fun design; but would probably end up a fairly weak champion. That would be okay, because (1) the contest does actually need some weak champions, and (2) Angel was by far the weakest of the original X-men.

How dare you!!?!!? If the original X-men ever needed someone to fly through rings for any reason at all Angel was the mutant for the job!

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2nd_slingshot

Wait till 5.4 modok says hi. Then you know how useful he is. He always replaces my 3/45 iceman.

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flomer

Repeat please..

3000 dmg per second without bother..

AzKicker316

He's beyond god tier for a reason, he's awesome.

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GroundedWisdom

Holy Necro Batman!

Sleipnirrod

Dizzy wrote: »

I will say, I've always been annoyed by the people who downvote Quake because she's ineffective in some fights (e.g., Power Gain) but insist Archangel is godly when he also has his limitations. Sure, his dps is through the roof, but that's still a lot of caveats for using him.

I loved my 4* Archangel when I first pulled / awakened him, but I was running Act 4 at that time. Nowadays, I rarely take him into battle and will typically opt for Iceman instead when it comes to Mutants, since 4* Sparky has become my main damage dealer.

Exactly how I feel. Amazing in some fights, no doubt, but those fights are not plentiful many times

That's why we have 5 character slots, so we have 5 characters balanced between each other and each with their own style and usage.

Jenk6225

I found out yesterday in case people may not know for AA. In 6.1.1 he cancels out the no retreat node with his neurotoxin. I was able to dash back as much as I wanted with no degen. 😁

Solswerd

OP I dont think you know how to use him.

My 4* AA ran through act 5. And my 5* AA tore up act 6. His damage is so insane he was able to run all or nothing paths in act 6. Also, his block proficiency is relatively high compared to most champs. If the opponent is bleed immune, use another champ. Simple. If the opponent is poison immune, then he can work but isnt the best option. If the opponent is neither... then he is most likely the best champ to use.

Considering the OP posted this almost 2 years ago....they may have figured some of this out....

Disgruntled_User_123

Archangel is one of the best champions in the game. The OP made some valid points... but if AA has an ideal opponent, he’s likely a Top 3 option.