what did dormammu go for?

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Rotmgmoddy

About 5m I believe

King_Cobra735

That much for a 4 star who will be equal to a 3 star within kept several months?! Shocking, but guess peeps don't realize fully how useless 4 stars soon to become. I know I wouldn't waste 3 days grinding for a 3 star, but 4 stars a months away from being equal to current 3 star usefulness.

KDoggg2017

Yeah. I know 5.2 mil was enough to get him.

IAmNotUrMom

King_Cobra735 wrote: »

That much for a 4 star who will be equal to a 3 star within kept several months?! Shocking, but guess peeps don't realize fully how useless 4 stars soon to become. I know I wouldn't waste 3 days grinding for a 3 star, but 4 stars a months away from being equal to current 3 star usefulness.

It will take years before people have 6*s and 5*s at a level that will make 4*s completely irrelevant. Dormammu is still an amazing defender for war.

I_am_Groot

IAmNotUrMom wrote: »

King_Cobra735 wrote: »

That much for a 4 star who will be equal to a 3 star within kept several months?! Shocking, but guess peeps don't realize fully how useless 4 stars soon to become. I know I wouldn't waste 3 days grinding for a 3 star, but 4 stars a months away from being equal to current 3 star usefulness.

It will take years before people have 6*s and 5*s at a level that will make 4*s completely irrelevant. Dormammu is still an amazing defender for war.

But 6*s will be in the content next in the corner.
Plus, 5*s will be more available as they are claimed, because people should be able to dupe them then get 6* shards.
Then yep, 4* will be irrelevant, but if you focus on the the day someone will get them, then you're looking fallacies.

IAmNotUrMom

I_am_Groot wrote: »

IAmNotUrMom wrote: »

King_Cobra735 wrote: »

That much for a 4 star who will be equal to a 3 star within kept several months?! Shocking, but guess peeps don't realize fully how useless 4 stars soon to become. I know I wouldn't waste 3 days grinding for a 3 star, but 4 stars a months away from being equal to current 3 star usefulness.

It will take years before people have 6*s and 5*s at a level that will make 4*s completely irrelevant. Dormammu is still an amazing defender for war.

But 6*s will be in the content next in the corner.
Plus, 5*s will be more available as they are claimed, because people should be able to dupe them then get 6* shards.
Then yep, 4* will be irrelevant, but if you focus on the the day someone will get them, then you're looking fallacies.

So, just because 6*s are the future (years away) I should neglect the opportunity to go after a champ that would improve the defense I place in war? Should I also forego using all rank up items and ISO and if it expires because I do not have a duped 5* to rank up?
The gloom and doom 6*s are the future has some truth to it, but no one should be neglecting getting good 4*s right now. A duped 5/50 4* Dormammu in a redesigned war format could easily be a difference maker and stop a non-spender from progressing in a war.

SlyCat42

It's not years away, it's a couple months... but 5.2mill or so is not that bad in terms of arena grinding.

Personally arena grinding is one of the least fun things for me to do in this game. I like to hit the red shard milestones, but after that I don't want to spend an entire weekend grinding and not even know if I have high enough score to get the champion.

TheOneAndOnly

SlyCat42 wrote: »

It's not years away, it's a couple months... but 5.2mill or so is not that bad in terms of arena grinding.

Personally arena grinding is one of the least fun things for me to do in this game. I like to hit the red shard milestones, but after that I don't want to spend an entire weekend grinding and not even know if I have high enough score to get the champion.

It is not a couple of months away...Kabam will not even release the crystals until next calendar year. Even if that is January then we are looking at it being 4 months, not 2 months away. Plus just like with 5*s it will take time for people to build an army of 6*s, especially with them eliminating the ability to sell 5*s. So, it is far more likely that we are looking at a year at least before some people even get close to having a 6*.

SlyCat42

@TheOneAndOnly ,

I never actually argued for how quickly they will be replaced, and I used the term a "couple" just to refer to the fact that it's coming up in the next months (probably around February).

So, for the most part I actually agree with you. My only comment was that Dormammu didn't actually go for that high, but that I don't personally enjoy arena grinding.

If I have to add an opinion on 6 stars, it would only be that it makes it more difficult for medium to casual level players to stay competitive. The biggest alliances will probably get a 6 star very quickly. I remember literally the first day 5 stars came out someone already had a 5 star cyclops. It wasn't leveled up or anything, but they had one nonetheless. The change to 6 stars, whether good or bad, just changes the competitive landscape and how difficult it is to remain competitive. To that end a lot of people are vouching for holding on to resources and focusing their resources to 5 star rosters because they are likely to remain competitive for a longer period of time (like an investment).

TheOneAndOnly

SlyCat42 wrote: »

@TheOneAndOnly ,

I never actually argued for how quickly they will be replaced, and I used the term a "couple" just to refer to the fact that it's coming up in the next months (probably around February).

So, for the most part I actually agree with you. My only comment was that Dormammu didn't actually go for that high, but that I don't personally enjoy arena grinding.

If I have to add an opinion on 6 stars, it would only be that it makes it more difficult for medium to casual level players to stay competitive. The biggest alliances will probably get a 6 star very quickly. I remember literally the first day 5 stars came out someone already had a 5 star cyclops. It wasn't leveled up or anything, but they had one nonetheless. The change to 6 stars, whether good or bad, just changes the competitive landscape and how difficult it is to remain competitive. To that end a lot of people are vouching for holding on to resources and focusing their resources to 5 star rosters because they are likely to remain competitive for a longer period of time (like an investment).

Yes, but it was much easier to get 5*s. Not saying the top gamers will not get them the first day they are released next year since they are still months away and people can start accumulating 6* shards this week. But with 5*s you could sell 4*s to get shards faster if you wanted. Plus they were more readily available due to initial gifts of everyone receiving 5000 shards. I just struggle to see how 4*s become worthless when the vast majority of players (at least 70-80%, maybe more) will not get a 6* champion for months after their release. And the vast majority of gamers do not have good duped 5*s. Running in tier 3 for war we see a 50-50 mix of max ranked 4*s and 4/35 or 4.55 5*s placed.

TeeJayFlash

.....Anyone that says 4*s are irrelevant...is a idiot...

DNA3000

SlyCat42 wrote: »

It's not years away, it's a couple months... but 5.2mill or so is not that bad in terms of arena grinding.

Personally arena grinding is one of the least fun things for me to do in this game. I like to hit the red shard milestones, but after that I don't want to spend an entire weekend grinding and not even know if I have high enough score to get the champion.

Well, you can't spent an entire weekend grinding for the basic or featured champion because those events don't run on Sunday. Although I suppose that depends on where you are relative to the international date line.

PlasmaKing

TeeJayFlash wrote: »

.....Anyone that says 4*s are irrelevant...is a idiot...

Hmmm, interesting and direct statement why do you say that?

The fact is the second 6* appear in any content 4* will be performing as per 3* now because of CR.

YES players won't get a 6* squad that quickly but that only means you'll be fighting kabam 6* in content for a long time before you have a chance to address this. So imagine AQ WITH nodes suited to 6* and 6* on them for let's say a year before you have a few 6* to put up against them. Yep will be a fun challenge but I see a lot of people asking to nerf champs now without this step up, what are they going to be like once it happens?

Invisible

cutoff was 5.027m

and it would make more sense to say 4* are then new 3* when you actually have a 6* in your account.

DNA3000

PlasmaKing wrote: »

TeeJayFlash wrote: »

.....Anyone that says 4*s are irrelevant...is a idiot...

Hmmm, interesting and direct statement why do you say that?

The fact is the second 6* appear in any content 4* will be performing as per 3* now because of CR.

That's not how CR works. But ignoring that fact entirely, the newer content we will be getting down the road is going to be harder, and it does matter in what way it gets harder. The primary difference between Kabam making future content harder by giving the enemies harder node buffs and Kabam making content harder by ranking up the enemies to higher level 6* tiers is that theoretically speaking, one day you could progress to equal the 6* champs because we get them too eventually. We're never getting the node buffs currently in Act 5.

If you think 6* champions are going to make 4* champions unusable, you have to believe future content was always going to make 4* champions unusable, just in a different way. It doesn't matter if the future content champions are given higher attack values intrinsically or because of a game mechanical effect. Higher is higher. CR tweaks numbers in certain ways, but every node buff in harder content is several orders of magnitude stronger than CR is.

To put it simply, Kabam can give node buffs to harder content or they can create a new stronger tier of champion. The biggest difference between those two options is that 6* champions are a weapon we eventually get to have. Node buffs are not.

I_am_Groot

PlasmaKing wrote: »

TeeJayFlash wrote: »

.....Anyone that says 4*s are irrelevant...is a idiot...

Hmmm, interesting and direct statement why do you say that?

The fact is the second 6* appear in any content 4* will be performing as per 3* now because of CR.

YES players won't get a 6* squad that quickly but that only means you'll be fighting kabam 6* in content for a long time before you have a chance to address this. So imagine AQ WITH nodes suited to 6* and 6* on them for let's say a year before you have a few 6* to put up against them. Yep will be a fun challenge but I see a lot of people asking to nerf champs now without this step up, what are they going to be like once it happens?

Exactly.
I cannot understand why some people is missing the point, watching the tree (the missing champ in the roster) but blind to the forest (the new tier in the content and every thing pushing to the new climb).

Invisible wrote: »

it would make more sense to say 4* are then new 3* when you actually have a 6* in your account.

You can to say 1* are the new 6* if you sell every 5*, 4*, 3*, 2* in your account. Just think it, you could be the first one with 6*s. Don't wait, do it now.

GbSarkar

DNA3000 wrote: »

PlasmaKing wrote: »

TeeJayFlash wrote: »

.....Anyone that says 4*s are irrelevant...is a idiot...

Hmmm, interesting and direct statement why do you say that?

The fact is the second 6* appear in any content 4* will be performing as per 3* now because of CR.

That's not how CR works. But ignoring that fact entirely, the newer content we will be getting down the road is going to be harder, and it does matter in what way it gets harder. The primary difference between Kabam making future content harder by giving the enemies harder node buffs and Kabam making content harder by ranking up the enemies to higher level 6* tiers is that theoretically speaking, one day you could progress to equal the 6* champs because we get them too eventually. We're never getting the node buffs currently in Act 5.

If you think 6* champions are going to make 4* champions unusable, you have to believe future content was always going to make 4* champions unusable, just in a different way. It doesn't matter if the future content champions are given higher attack values intrinsically or because of a game mechanical effect. Higher is higher. CR tweaks numbers in certain ways, but every node buff in harder content is several orders of magnitude stronger than CR is.

To put it simply, Kabam can give node buffs to harder content or they can create a new stronger tier of champion. The biggest difference between those two options is that 6* champions are a weapon we eventually get to have. Node buffs are not.

4*s won't be "unusable" but they are going to be *less* useful against the 6*s of future content than they are against the 5*s of current content. Add to it the fact that people will be getting access to the same 5*s they have as 4* champs, I'm pretty sure no one would prefer the 4*s over 5*s. You could argue that the dupes will make a lot of difference but getting dupes shouldn't be as much of a problem as now since 5*s are going to be made more available. Even when considering dupes, why should I invest in champs that will soon be equivalent to today's 3*s (I think we can all agree that 4*s will become obsolete pretty soon) when I ignore my current 3*s even when they are much easier to dupe?

Like I have said before, you either play smart and plan for the future (which I think was why they made the 6* announcement so early) or you keep focusing (wasting resources) on 4*s now and then desperately try to catch up with others in the future

TillerTheKiller

King_Cobra735 wrote: »

That much for a 4 star who will be equal to a 3 star within kept several months?! Shocking, but guess peeps don't realize fully how useless 4 stars soon to become. I know I wouldn't waste 3 days grinding for a 3 star, but 4 stars a months away from being equal to current 3 star usefulness.

I guess you don't realize what Tier 1 wars are like.

The1_NuclearOnion

I still focus on 4* and not 5* because of where I am at in the game.
A 3/5 5* is the equivalent of a 5/5 4* really. My issue is that I am no where NEAR duping any 5* and there are plenty of champs who really are only good duped.
I have a 2/5 5* Magik (lucky pull) and a 4/5 4* Magik. I will definitely 5/5 my 4* and have her more useful duped than the 5* equivalent in my case. Once 5* becomes more viable for me at my point in the game I will go that route.

Draco2199

IAmNotUrMom wrote: »

I_am_Groot wrote: »

IAmNotUrMom wrote: »

King_Cobra735 wrote: »

That much for a 4 star who will be equal to a 3 star within kept several months?! Shocking, but guess peeps don't realize fully how useless 4 stars soon to become. I know I wouldn't waste 3 days grinding for a 3 star, but 4 stars a months away from being equal to current 3 star usefulness.

It will take years before people have 6*s and 5*s at a level that will make 4*s completely irrelevant. Dormammu is still an amazing defender for war.

But 6*s will be in the content next in the corner.
Plus, 5*s will be more available as they are claimed, because people should be able to dupe them then get 6* shards.
Then yep, 4* will be irrelevant, but if you focus on the the day someone will get them, then you're looking fallacies.

So, just because 6*s are the future (years away) I should neglect the opportunity to go after a champ that would improve the defense I place in war? Should I also forego using all rank up items and ISO and if it expires because I do not have a duped 5* to rank up?
The gloom and doom 6*s are the future has some truth to it, but no one should be neglecting getting good 4*s right now. A duped 5/50 4* Dormammu in a redesigned war format could easily be a difference maker and stop a non-spender from progressing in a war.

A 4* dorm isn't hard to beat at all, I usually walk through them. Dorm as boss has made lots of people learn how to fight him so I don't think his 4* on defense has made your defense better. To be honest I smile when I run into him.

Kocheese

I actually grinded to dupe him. They said the second round would be 6.5 so I did 6.7 smh. Was easy though. I actually intend on using him for offense. He's amazing with his heavy and power lock/drain L2. Very underrated for offense. Will use him for map 6 day 2. Ultron is just too weak on caltrops.