How's he? I dont know much about this champ

LordPSNLordPSN Member Posts: 799 ★★★★
edited May 2021 in General Discussion
I have never played with him. I dont have him as 4 or 5 star. So.. someone please tell me that how is he?

Comments

  • SpideyFunkoSpideyFunko Member Posts: 21,972 ★★★★★
    Raichu626 said:

    He’s alright. Got great damage, especially in buff heavy matchups, but no real utility to speak of.

    He's pretty good at buff control
    I feel like that goes without saying. Other then that, there’s really nothing else
  • TheHoodedDormammuTheHoodedDormammu Member Posts: 1,448 ★★★
    He is really good and has insane burst damage
  • LordPSNLordPSN Member Posts: 799 ★★★★
    As said above, I dont have him as 4 star or 5 star. So I know nothing about him. But yeah I did a duel with 6star archangel and did a sp2. He goes down so easily I didn't even know what happened. He was at about 30% health as I wanted to lower his health as much as I can to apply sp2. I mean. Incineration happened and I don't even know how much damage it did.
  • The_beast123The_beast123 Member Posts: 2,191 ★★★★
    edited May 2021
    People say he loses damage against incinerate immunes and I strongly think it's wrong. His SP1, when pure of heart is active, can make 7 instant bleeds, which while are not as strong as the incinerates from the SP2, they're quite strong enough to call it decent DOT. With Mojo, he inflicts degen instead.
    Starts the fight with 300% ability accuracy, almost impossible to be reduced to 0%.
    Great buff control champion, long stun on SP3.
    Stack the bad karma's on the opponent, and you can gain a lot of power, aiding you to fire Specials quickly.

    He's a great champion, @LordPSN .
    Unfortunately, the endgame content is not the place where he could shine. He still would be promising for you in incursions, AW (AQ maybe) and a few more places I don't remember now/don't know.
  • MojoHaterMojoHater Member Posts: 244 ★★
    everyone is saying he has no utility. But, according to me, his being immune to passive AAR, and also having 300% AA by default, is a lot of utility.
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    Longshot has a fair bit of utility to be honest, he's no utility machine- but he's got more going on for him than people realise

    Awakened ability- Chance to auto nullify buffs and replace with bad karma
    A lot of people dunk on his sig, because it takes away from his damage. But I love it, Longshot already has tons of damage, it adds a layer of utility he didn't have before and makes him a more balanced champion. Oh no, you have to use two more heavy attacks to finish a fight because he nullified a tricky power gain buff that could have killed you! In my opinion it more than makes up for fights being the tiniest bit longer. Unduped, Longshots nullify comes all from his Sp2, but what if you can't get to SP2, or what if they shrug it off? Or what if you want to use SP1 for the bleed damage? That's where his sig nullify comes in, it's a layer of buff control above just his SP2 and really balances his damage and utility.


    Base AAR of 300%
    This is so useful against Domino's, Assassin mastery, any nodes that give you a chance to proc something. Using him on incursions with the old incinerate and shock hacks was crazy, a full 5 combo gave you 2 incinerates and 3 shocks every time.

    Increased power gain
    For each bad karma on the opponent Longshot gains 12% of the power they gain, so at 5 bad karma that's 60%. And that's not just from hitting them, if they have passive power over time you will gain that too. It makes refreshing the SP2 incinerate for buff control very easy.

    His playstyle/huge heavy reach
    Because of the way you play Longshot, it means the opponent doesn't gain very much power compared to you. You can get to an sp2 way before your opponent gets their sp2. It takes him 10 hits, or 5 heavies. This isn't as obvious utility as the rest but it means any situation where you want more power, or an sp2 fast, it's very easy to get there with longshot. Also, his heavy reach is so long, it makes heavy countering and heavy chaining in the corner very easy.

    Lastly, buff control
    Longshot's SP2 applies a 12 second incinerate which fateseals all buffs. Against any non incinerate immmune champion he will stop them getting buffs without a drop of sweat. Add in the sig and buff reliant champs are absolutely neutered. It's very easy to get more than 50% uptime on it, especially with mystic dispersion. But when that incinerate isn't on the opponent, the sig is very useful to stop buffs that could hurt you in the meantime
  • Real_Madrid_76_2Real_Madrid_76_2 Member Posts: 3,582 ★★★★★
    Good counter for venom and black bolt. probably all cosmos, coz most of them have tons of buffs
  • This content has been removed.
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★

    Longshot has a fair bit of utility to be honest, he's no utility machine- but he's got more going on for him than people realise

    Awakened ability- Chance to auto nullify buffs and replace with bad karma
    A lot of people dunk on his sig, because it takes away from his damage. But I love it, Longshot already has tons of damage, it adds a layer of utility he didn't have before and makes him a more balanced champion. Oh no, you have to use two more heavy attacks to finish a fight because he nullified a tricky power gain buff that could have killed you! In my opinion it more than makes up for fights being the tiniest bit longer. Unduped, Longshots nullify comes all from his Sp2, but what if you can't get to SP2, or what if they shrug it off? Or what if you want to use SP1 for the bleed damage? That's where his sig nullify comes in, it's a layer of buff control above just his SP2 and really balances his damage and utility.


    Base AAR of 300%
    This is so useful against Domino's, Assassin mastery, any nodes that give you a chance to proc something. Using him on incursions with the old incinerate and shock hacks was crazy, a full 5 combo gave you 2 incinerates and 3 shocks every time.

    Increased power gain
    For each bad karma on the opponent Longshot gains 12% of the power they gain, so at 5 bad karma that's 60%. And that's not just from hitting them, if they have passive power over time you will gain that too. It makes refreshing the SP2 incinerate for buff control very easy.

    His playstyle/huge heavy reach
    Because of the way you play Longshot, it means the opponent doesn't gain very much power compared to you. You can get to an sp2 way before your opponent gets their sp2. It takes him 10 hits, or 5 heavies. This isn't as obvious utility as the rest but it means any situation where you want more power, or an sp2 fast, it's very easy to get there with longshot. Also, his heavy reach is so long, it makes heavy countering and heavy chaining in the corner very easy.

    Lastly, buff control
    Longshot's SP2 applies a 12 second incinerate which fateseals all buffs. Against any non incinerate immmune champion he will stop them getting buffs without a drop of sweat. Add in the sig and buff reliant champs are absolutely neutered. It's very easy to get more than 50% uptime on it, especially with mystic dispersion. But when that incinerate isn't on the opponent, the sig is very useful to stop buffs that could hurt you in the meantime

    I thought that he still takes crit failure from domino since some of his abilities rnt a 100% chance even with the 300% aa
    His only non 100% ability is 51% chance to gain good karma when attacked- you're not gonna want to do that in a fight - that changes to a 102% chance if you dodge the attack. And a 75% chance to lose good karma when suffering from a non damaging debuff, or when attacked when stunned. Again, not gonna want to do that. I guess if domino has a node that makes her get buffs, and LS is awakened he could get crit failure from failing to nullify a buff, but for your average domino encounter that's not gonna happen.

    Since he's immune to passive AAR, it also means domino's unlucky doesn't affect him (though it still causes dex to fail, so don't try and evade her sp1).

    All other abilities are 100% or over.
  • LordPSNLordPSN Member Posts: 799 ★★★★
    edited May 2021
    Wow! @BitterSteel . Thanks for that detailed information. I would try him again.
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    LordPSN said:

    Wow! @BitterSteel . Thanks for that detailed information. I would try him again.

    You're welcome! He's a really fun champion. He's pretty easy to play as well, just parry, hold heavy till the last second, then let go to hit opponent when stun is ending. Wait until you have 5 bad karma on the opponent (red passive debuff), and try and get 5 good karma (gold passive buff) on you, then throw SP2 for big damage.
Sign In or Register to comment.