Guillotine buff is here !!

https://youtu.be/QuQ2RgLzquM

Spotlight has still not been released . Should come in few minutes . Till then here's the overhaul notes. Looks good to me . Maybe we expected too much considering she was "people's choice" and Hercules too and he turned out to be broken OP. Lemme know your thoughts too.

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No_oneuk

There really is no pleasing some people. She's not even live yet. "This sucks."

It'd be relatively easy to please lots of people in this thread - by not taking away parts of her kit. But they seem to have a big aversion to doing that for some reason.

Infact it's actually easier to NOT take away parts of her kit than it is to take them away.

DrZola

There really is no pleasing some people. She's not even live yet. "This sucks."

There is a written description. Not live, but players are able to envision how that written description will play out in game.

That may be a wrong impression, but based on the written description, I would think you could see how experienced players might conclude there aren’t many situations where she outshines other champs.

Add the fact she was part of an event that allowed the community to vote on which champ got buffed, and it isn’t unreasonable for people to express disappointment when she doesn’t appear to be a significantly improved champ.

Then there’s the past few months. Apart from SoP, it hasn’t been great.

So if you think about it, it isn’t tough to understand where players are coming from when they balk at the details of the release.

Dr. Zola

GroundedWisdom

There really is no pleasing some people. She's not even live yet. "This sucks."
There is a written description. Not live, but players are able to envision how that written description will play out in game.

That may be a wrong impression, but based on the written description, I would think you could see how experienced players might conclude there aren’t many situations where she outshines other champs.

Add the fact she was part of an event that allowed the community to vote on which champ got buffed, and it isn’t unreasonable for people to express disappointment when she doesn’t appear to be a significantly improved champ.

Then there’s the past few months. Apart from SoP, it hasn’t been great.

So if you think about it, it isn’t tough to understand where players are coming from when they balk at the details of the release.

Dr. Zola

This whole comparison to other Champs and how much better they are at X or Y is the source of that inevitable disappointment. No one even stops to consider how much better they are than they were. Which is by far the largest measure for these reworks.
Again, the past few months cannot be repeatedly brought up with everything that comes along. It's getting old, TBH. We're all aware the game has had issues.
I think it's incredibly shortsighted and biased to form these judgements sight-unseen. Further to that, that's not at all going into it with an open mind. That's forming the prejudice that it will suck. People do that far too often here. They're already coming into things with the attitude that they will be dissatisfied.

GroundedWisdom

There really is no pleasing some people. She's not even live yet. "This sucks."
It'd be relatively easy to please lots of people in this thread - by not taking away parts of her kit. But they seem to have a big aversion to doing that for some reason.

Infact it's actually easier to NOT take away parts of her kit than it is to take them away.

If you limit the rebalancing to never removing or reducing anything, you're limiting these buffs to only Champs that are reworkable in that fashion.

Tedders

So lower chance to bleed with less damage...got it

Sp3 no longer takes 2 percent off per soul charge but instead does 1737 degen damage per soul charge...

She now needs the opponent to have buffs to help her chance to bleed, if they made it per debuff instead of buff i would be more optimistic......

I hope she turns out to be great im just not seeing it though

EgretM4

I was really hoping for a reason to level up a champ I’ve always liked playing but couldn’t see using resources on, my new 6* or my 5* guillotine but I’m really disappointed in this overhaul. They gave a little but took away more than they gave.

I like that the first 10 souls don’t expire but why cap at 15. The bonus attack is tiny per soul even at a lot of souls it won’t make much difference. You get a soul 35% of the time if you crit, if you crit .25% percent of hits you only get a soul at best 8% of the time

Sp1 now costs 10 souls.

Sp2 used to reverse all regen now only 200%
And can also cost souls.

Sp3 took away the really cool and fun part of the possible crazy damage and gives a smaller damage that also consumes souls.

I like that she got a rupture for bleed immune.

Regen looks meh, especially when we just got king groot and diablo who can have incredible regen with just as or more damage than the new guillotine. Not sure how the regen compares to current regen but I doubt it’s better

Couldn’t you have focused on either beefing her damage and regen like king groot and diablo OR taken the path of decent damage and regen but also added some standard mystic utility?

I’ll hold off on final judgement until I play her post buff but as of right now I’m really disappointed how it’s looking.

Stellar

The buff seems nice but why not change the synergies ?

No synergy with Purgatory ?

Doctor_Strange19

Ooh I got some theory crafting! Against Nick Fury, Guilly will regen a bunch during his 2nd life degen!

becauseicant

Extremely disappointing rework. What was the point of the hype and the vote if this is the result.
- No useful base utility - No immunities, no power control, no nullify, no AAR, healing is miniscule.
- No role in the game - Where are players gonna use her? Even if she does good damage she offers nothing else.
- Sp1 "share pain" is not usable in any high level content since it doesn't reduce the incoming damage. Any DOT worth countering is gonna kill you ages before the opponent.
- Specials remove your Soul Charges whether you want the bonus utility or not, losing your attack bonus from the charges. Should've been a choice between either keeping the utility active or trading in the charges for a big Sp3.
- Basically zero benefit when fighting buff heavy champs (ie. Cosmic) - 5% more bleed chance per buff is a joke.

So we're left with her only actual utility being her Sp2 heal reversal and you have to give up your attack increase from your soul charges to make it last a decent amount of time.

I just don't see the point of this rework, it brings nothing to the table that she didn't already have. For a Kabam original character that the community voted to get reworked I expected a lot more.

Tx_Quack_Attack6589

Ooh I got some theory crafting! Against Nick Fury, Guilly will regen a bunch during his 2nd life degen!

Doubtful as she’s not doing that damage to him

Bendy

The buff seems nice but why not change the synergies ?

No synergy with Purgatory ?

The synergies are from the other champs like gamora purgatory nt ms etc and not her so we wont see the updated ones till the buff is live

LordSmasher

Beyond Act 5, quest design rewards utility.
Cavalier EQ rewards class archetypes.

As she doesn't satisfy either of the above is her damage better be Nick Fury level otherwise she will have no purpose.

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Doctor_Strange19

Ooh I got some theory crafting! Against Nick Fury, Guilly will regen a bunch during his 2nd life degen!
Doubtful as she’s not doing that damage to him

Nope, it says “ Guillotine Heals 2% of all damage taken by the opponent”. That’s a pretty big deal, and something some people may be underestimating. We shouldn’t judge her until she’s out, though.

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AverageDesi

is the change to her sp2 a nerf? currently it just says reverses all regen. but in the buffed one it is reduce by 200%. which would mean an opponent with 100%increased regen would merely have the regen shut down to 0%

upon furthur inspection, there is no node in game right now that increases "regeneration rate". so she should work just fine

Rahultripathi

Ant-man - “ Goddamn I Got Saved. “

LibertyPrimeV1

I just realized something, it's pretty sad how Guillotine Somehow got Less Utility in her Overhaul than Gamora did in her Tune Up!

Also it's getting really annoying when they continue to add unnecessary steps to Preexisting Abilities especially when it's unwarranted with already fairly balanced Abilities like this, before she has a 50% Chance to Bleed on Crit. Now it's 35% Chance but increases by 5% per Buff on the Opponent, as well the Damage has been Reduced but Soul Charges now Increase Attack instead of Crit Damage to make up for it...

All they did there was make her Bleeds More Complicated and removed her Crit Damage Bonus, which would also Weaken that Critical Bleed Synergy she has with Purgatory if it remains unchanged.

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MavRCK_

Hard to say for sure whether the buffs on Guilly or TR are in practice great... but the design overall for both champion I believe is well-designed and thought-out... kudos to design team on these champion reworks!

GlazzyBear

Well great... my post criticizing guillotine got removed, not even move to this thread or anything. Goes to show how ashamed they might be with this buff. She straight up got nerfed. Less healing, less damage overall, still reliant on the same synergies... what a disappointing buff

GroundedWisdom

Something else to point out is she's somewhat "Suicide friendly", in that the more Damage you can do, the more Regen you'll have. FWIW.

Adevati

Major game bugs, lag, more connection issues, mind numbing arena grinds, side quests dropped for tedious and boring objectives after duel targets get removed, and now we get to add a lackluster buff for the most hyped buff in months.

At least we didn’t have to be strung along for months with voting and grinding arena for more votes… oh wait.

But we should all be happy that our overflow is full of AQ revives.

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Hieitaku

This is for you Guilly 🥲

Bahubali

I thought this buff would be in the lines of Mags or Colossus bcz of community voting, arena grind voting and Hype.. and was waiting to see if this buff is R3 worthy..

Thank you Kabam for making it easy.. now I can happily R3 Diablo.. Better damage, Utility and he has got regen too..

Bahubali

Kabam.. Please go back to 3 buffs per month..
1 good buff out of 3 is much better instead of 2 out of 2 mediocre buffs..

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