Drive to a Million Facebook Likes!

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  • DarkestDestroyerDarkestDestroyer Member Posts: 2,889 ★★★★★
    eXtripa69 wrote: »

    As I said before, it would still be impossible for me to buy it.

    It's not impossible for you to get a gift card, that shouldn't even be a sentence.

    Unless your not allowed outside or something, stop being so stingy and just pay a dollar man! Jeeeez
  • DarkestDestroyerDarkestDestroyer Member Posts: 2,889 ★★★★★
    eXtripa69 wrote: »
    I'm asking for this to be available for everyone, for units. If they decided to sell this for pay2win players only they should have increased the cost of it

    No they shouldn't! Why should they? Because your having a tantrum about it!
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 20,703 Guardian
    No, I pretty much just proved you do not do enough research and do not know the definition of what stratified sampling is. If you took all the people that play this game and also interact in the Reddit group for it (thus creating a strata) and then pulled a sample from that then you have performed stratified sampling. BOOM, no argument can be made against that because that is the exact proof of stratified sampling applied in the very scenario.

    I'm afraid an argument can be made against that, because that is not correct. Stratified sampling is a statistical analysis tool where a single group to be stochastically measured is divided into a number of subgroups and then each subgroup is individually sampled. To be valid, the groups or strata must be well defined, mutually exclusive, and globally covering.

    In other words, to use stratified sampling on the group of all players that play MCOC, you must find a set of groups such that every player is a member of one and only one of those groups, you must know how to properly sample each group relative to the statistical measurement being attempted, and you must sample every group in your measurement.

    Polling Reddit to determine the age distribution of all players of the game is not stratified sampling. It is sampling a subset, which is statistically improper because Reddit users are self-selected in ways that make it unlikely to be a representative sample of all players, and because there's no way to correct for this discrepancy by sampling the subset of all players that are not on Reddit for comparison.

    I'm afraid both of you are using the term "stratified" wrong. Reddit is not a strata, it is a subset. It is not a representative subset.

    Statistically speaking, a seven year old cross-sectional survey and a Reddit poll both have problems, but the seven year old survey is more statistically valid. To extrapolate the seven year old survey, you simply have to factor in the likelihood that the age distribution of all gamers hasn't suddenly changed in seven years, which is likely (but not certainly) to be true to a significant degree. The Reddit poll isn't statistically valid at all, because it is a self-selected subset of a self-selected subset of a non-representative subset of all players.
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    DNA3000 wrote: »

    I'm afraid an argument can be made against that, because that is not correct. Stratified sampling is a statistical analysis tool where a single group to be stochastically measured is divided into a number of subgroups and then each subgroup is individually sampled. To be valid, the groups or strata must be well defined, mutually exclusive, and globally covering.

    In other words, to use stratified sampling on the group of all players that play MCOC, you must find a set of groups such that every player is a member of one and only one of those groups, you must know how to properly sample each group relative to the statistical measurement being attempted, and you must sample every group in your measurement.

    Polling Reddit to determine the age distribution of all players of the game is not stratified sampling. It is sampling a subset, which is statistically improper because Reddit users are self-selected in ways that make it unlikely to be a representative sample of all players, and because there's no way to correct for this discrepancy by sampling the subset of all players that are not on Reddit for comparison.

    I'm afraid both of you are using the term "stratified" wrong. Reddit is not a strata, it is a subset. It is not a representative subset.

    Statistically speaking, a seven year old cross-sectional survey and a Reddit poll both have problems, but the seven year old survey is more statistically valid. To extrapolate the seven year old survey, you simply have to factor in the likelihood that the age distribution of all gamers hasn't suddenly changed in seven years, which is likely (but not certainly) to be true to a significant degree. The Reddit poll isn't statistically valid at all, because it is a self-selected subset of a self-selected subset of a non-representative subset of all players.
    Exactly, there are a huge number of factors to take into account with using only data from a sample of Reddit users.
  • JoitalJoital Member Posts: 10
    So much complaining about a dollar. I haven’t seen any “FTP” players complain about the $4.99 or $9.99 or $29.99...etc. so why complain now that something is for a $1. If you’re “FTP” this shouldn’t effect you.
  • QwertyQwerty Member Posts: 636 ★★★
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  • Dante6693Dante6693 Member Posts: 8
    Soooo, will the 1$ crystal be limited or you can keep buying them untill you have no money left :D
  • Titan_A97Titan_A97 Member Posts: 179
    Are you biting more than you can chew, Kabam?

    Don't get me wrong, I'm no statistician but I do know a thing here or there. 750 / 3 = 250k likes per year on average. For purposes of this event, Kabam wants us to achieve an additional 250k in less than a month. Definitely not impossible by any means but for the most part, it's wishful thinking.

    Kabam is taunting us with a large, juicy bone here but we can only have it if Kabam first gets their fill of joys. We may be the dogs in this case and you the master. But do note that even us dogs have our breaking point, for when you taunt a dog too much, it will bite the hand taunting it.
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 20,703 Guardian
    Titan_A97 wrote: »
    Are you biting more than you can chew, Kabam?

    Don't get me wrong, I'm no statistician but I do know a thing here or there. 750 / 3 = 250k likes per year on average. For purposes of this event, Kabam wants us to achieve an additional 250k in less than a month. Definitely not impossible by any means but for the most part, it's wishful thinking.

    The problem with this thinking is that I'm 48 years old and only have 12 5* champs, so that's only one every four years. You're dividing all the likes they have across the existence of the game, but have they been actively trying to boost those likes for all of those three years with ad campaigns?

    The question is not how many they have over how much time, but to what degree can they encourage more likes which has little to do with how many they already have. At the current like curve, they need to go significantly faster.
  • Draco2199Draco2199 Member Posts: 803 ★★★

    No, I pretty much just proved you do not do enough research and do not know the definition of what stratified sampling is. If you took all the people that play this game and also interact in the Reddit group for it (thus creating a strata) and then pulled a sample from that then you have performed stratified sampling. BOOM, no argument can be made against that because that is the exact proof of stratified sampling applied in the very scenario.

    But have a nice day anyways. Thanks for playing, do not pass go, do not collect $200!

    Umm what lol, your sample set is geared towards 18 and older demographic so its not a good sample set lol. You need a "strata" from a subset that includes EVERYONE not a subset that is 95% 18 and older reddit demographic lol. Nice fail.
  • EpistriatusEpistriatus Member Posts: 1,253 ★★★★
    So, 4 days since this topic started & 46k more people have liked their fb page. I really wonder what their contingency plan is 🤔
  • Draco2199Draco2199 Member Posts: 803 ★★★
    We only need 12,686 likes per day to reach the goal......so I guess its not happening.
  • LeNoirFaineantLeNoirFaineant Member Posts: 8,689 ★★★★★
    Doesn't look good.
  • Whododo872Whododo872 Member Posts: 1,042 ★★★
    Draco2199 wrote: »
    We only need 12,686 likes per day to reach the goal......so I guess its not happening.

    Yeah, kind of a shame. No way we’re gonna make it at this rate
  • Titan_A97Titan_A97 Member Posts: 179
    DNA3000 wrote: »

    The problem with this thinking is that I'm 48 years old and only have 12 5* champs, so that's only one every four years. You're dividing all the likes they have across the existence of the game, but have they been actively trying to boost those likes for all of those three years with ad campaigns?

    The question is not how many they have over how much time, but to what degree can they encourage more likes which has little to do with how many they already have. At the current like curve, they need to go significantly faster.

    You'd be completely right in your opinion in this case. More often than not, averages barely tend to accurately and precisely represent a sample space as a whole and can often be misleading. However, they excel in giving a very general and broad statement of a sample space which can be used to determine a basic relationship such as in this case. I guess any evidence is better than none! :wink:

    I agree with your general statement though, at the current rate we're going, I do fear we won't reach the intended goal in time. Today, we have barely achieved 2-3k likes (can't record the exact number for certain), meanwhile, the likes needed per day is increasing. To put it bluntly and in a cliché, the odds are not in our favour.
  • KestrelleKestrelle Member Posts: 441 ★★
    So if we don't make it, and it doesn't run anyway, does the player base do a drive to 500k likes?
  • MarzGrooveMarzGroove Member Posts: 903 ★★★
    edited November 2017
    Kestrelle wrote: »
    So if we don't make it, and it doesn't run anyway, does the player base do a drive to 500k likes?

    I guess we could if we wanted to be immature about it.
  • Spurgeon14Spurgeon14 Member Posts: 1,665 ★★★★
    Kabam would have better luck getting a million dislikes. 😂😂😂
  • Kabam MiikeKabam Miike Moderator Posts: 8,268
    Hey Everybody!

    The Top 12 Champion poll is live! Vote for your favourite champions of each class here: https://playcontestofchampions.com/top-12-champion-crystal-vote/
  • Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Member Posts: 14,159 ★★★★★
    Before voting ... there isn't any chance for the crystal to be available for 200/300 units?
  • TheOneAndOnlyTheOneAndOnly Member Posts: 690 ★★★
    edited November 2017
    Hey Everybody!

    The Top 12 Champion poll is live! Vote for your favourite champions of each class here: https://playcontestofchampions.com/top-12-champion-crystal-vote/

    @Kabam Miike Why is the poll missing Green Goblin and Doc Oc?
  • TheOneAndOnlyTheOneAndOnly Member Posts: 690 ★★★

    @Kabam Miike Why is the poll missing Green Goblin and Doc Oc?

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  • KocheeseKocheese Member Posts: 391 ★★
    This would be a easy task if ppl actually liked kabam. They game we love!!! The way kabam treats ppl is pretty bad. Ignore everything bad about the game.. put out deals.... Sums it up. Until they do right by their customers i simply can't like the page
  • Cosmic_Ray13Cosmic_Ray13 Member Posts: 302
    Kocheese wrote: »
    This would be a easy task if ppl actually liked kabam. They game we love!!! The way kabam treats ppl is pretty bad. Ignore everything bad about the game.. put out deals.... Sums it up. Until they do right by their customers i simply can't like the page

    You need to know that they read EVERY forum on this site. They know what's wrong with the game when you tell them. It takes more than a few minutes to change a bug in the game.
  • Cosmic_Ray13Cosmic_Ray13 Member Posts: 302
    @Kabam Miike Can you buy Multiple of these crystals? or can you just buy one?
  • IanMooneIanMoone Member Posts: 640 ★★

    @Kabam Miike Why is the poll missing Green Goblin and Doc Oc?

    Main reason i guess is bc Green Goblin is being added to the premiums tomorrow and Doc Ock on dec 5th
  • IanMooneIanMoone Member Posts: 640 ★★
    @Kabam Miike Can you buy Multiple of these crystals? or can you just buy one?

    One crystal, just like how they did the 5* class crystal few mons ago
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