Should I save for recoil masteries with this roster? Also apoc or chi as my first r3 in the future?
Luddifer
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Before you can even begin to consider suicides, you need to spend 15 points to unlock Willpower (plus three points there) as well as 15 points to unlock the recoil tree (plus one point in Glass Cannon and one point in Recoil to even reach Liquid Courage and Double Edge; and then six points in them). That's a total of 41 points. Add to that Parry and Dexterity and you're probably running awfully low on points, if you even have enough to cover it all.
I would focus on unlocking Willpower for now. Once that's done, you can focus on the Recoil tree. However, there's no need to rush to get there.
I was mostly looking for advice on how suicides would work with my top Champs since I know shang is very good with them but I'm not sure about apoc, scorpion or guardian.