Season 38 Blacklist... How is this possible?

Now I really could care less about who in on the Blacklist - we will manage but how on earth is Dr Doom the 2nd champ in Expert Tier to be blacklisted... ? Expert Tier was all Conduit tactic and while Doom can do non-Conduit fights, he cannot do a single Conduit fight. And while my sample size may be small/incomplete, I never once saw a Dr Doom ban from any of our wars and the countless of YT war videos I've watched.

Apoc, CGR, Tigra, Quake, WhMags... Those are about the only other bans I've seen for S38. I was expecting to see the blacklist be Kingpin and Apoc. 🧐

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TheBair123

11/12 wars we had apoc banned. we had doom available every single war. makes no sense

Demonzfyre

I used KP all season except last 2 wars. We're in plat 4. Ghost was banned more often than KP.

LilMaddogHT

I used KP all season except last 2 wars. We're in plat 4. Ghost was banned more often than KP.

That is not Expert Tier so the range of wars and bans is huge as you have the choice to pick your tactics. In Tier 1/Expert it was always Conduit/SickNTired

pseudosane

Yeah doom was always available. What is this nonsense?

Lvernon15

99.9999% sure they tossed the t3-5 data in with the tier 1-2, haven’t heard of a single doom ban in tier 1, and I’m in a lot of chats with t1 players, also playing an alt around the tier 2/3 border he was barely ever banned so very much doubt tier 2 banned him much as well

SirGamesBond

I used KP all season except last 2 wars. We're in plat 4. Ghost was banned more often than KP.
That is not Expert Tier so the range of wars and bans is huge as you have the choice to pick your tactics. In Tier 1/Expert it was always Conduit/SickNTired

He is talking about kingpin not even being banned in challanger wars rather than expert.
It's same situation for challenger too.
Kingpin was available almost always.

And kids: thats how you sell new champ like irondoom for hazard nodes.

AMS94

I didn't see a single Doom ban throughout the season
Not in my alliance
Not in my opponent alliances
Not in any of my friend's alliances
And not even in YouTube war videos

pseudosane

I used KP all season except last 2 wars. We're in plat 4. Ghost was banned more often than KP.
That is not Expert Tier so the range of wars and bans is huge as you have the choice to pick your tactics. In Tier 1/Expert it was always Conduit/SickNTired
He is talking about kingpin not even being banned in challanger wars rather than expert.
It's same situation for challenger too.
Kingpin was available almost always.

And kids: thats how you sell new champ like irondoom for hazard nodes.

you dont need iron doom lol. Not once did i feel like i needed him.

Panchulon21

I saw doom banned once or twice.

Kingpin I saw banned once or twice also. I’m in tier 3/4

CoatHang3r

Numbers.

First l, t1-2 (where the tactics are static) represent 10% of the bans that determine who is banned where t3-5 represent the other 90% of bans.

Second, t3-5 play with all available tactics (most importantly the new tactics people have not adapted to) and have likely moved past the use of an old tactic t1-2 now play with.

This means t1-2 have little say in who is banned and t3-5 playing with the newest tactics determine who is banned.

Gomezlink

Really? Kingpin was banned more than Hercules? Or is it blacklisted because of the new boss node?

Deacon

I questioned the S99 ban last season and especially now with these new ones .... I have no idea who they're picking info from but you never see these guys banned .. it is RARE yet here we are.

Wozzle007

In T4 he was banned probably 70% of our wars. I don’t think King Pin was banned once in any of our wars.

Demonzfyre

I used KP all season except last 2 wars. We're in plat 4. Ghost was banned more often than KP.
That is not Expert Tier so the range of wars and bans is huge as you have the choice to pick your tactics. In Tier 1/Expert it was always Conduit/SickNTired

I know it's not expert tier. Tiers 1/2 don't represent more than tiers 3-5. KP is blacklisted in both ong with Doom who others are saying were never banned.

Point is, neither selections make sense.

SirGamesBond

I used KP all season except last 2 wars. We're in plat 4. Ghost was banned more often than KP.
That is not Expert Tier so the range of wars and bans is huge as you have the choice to pick your tactics. In Tier 1/Expert it was always Conduit/SickNTired
He is talking about kingpin not even being banned in challanger wars rather than expert.
It's same situation for challenger too.
Kingpin was available almost always.

And kids: thats how you sell new champ like irondoom for hazard nodes.
you dont need iron doom lol. Not once did i feel like i needed him.

If they can troll about Champs ban in different tiers, I can troll about champion sales.
Yes, that comment was made in bad taste.
T345 used KP for shock+incin mid mini.
Had a cgr in my BG to tackle it.

But t1-2 and t345 needs different bans.
The wars are not of same intensity between expert and challenger.

Nameless_IW

this is quite simple. Kabam decided to blacklist Kingpin because he was easily soloing the knull bosses. plain and simple. lets call it like it is and stop going around the bush.

Nameless_IW

it is affecting someone's pocket thats why Kingpin needed to be blacklisted lol

Demonzfyre

it is affecting someone's pocket thats why Kingpin needed to be blacklisted lol

Yes, let's just skip all the discussions and go straight to conspiracy theories.

LordSmasher

it is affecting someone's pocket thats why Kingpin needed to be blacklisted lol
Yes, let's just skip all the discussions and go straight to conspiracy theories.

When you've eliminated all other possibilities, then what's left, no matter how ridiculous, must be the cause!

Yodabolt21

Kingpin was banned in nearly every war video I saw. There is no “conspiracy” because he soloed Knull bosses. Kingpin was banned because he walks through hazard shift nodes, path 4 and yes, mostly all war stuff.

The fact that people are claiming a conspiracy is mind blowing to me.

Now, Doom being banned…. That I am not so sure about.

De_Potato_Salad

Path 9 player here, kingpin being banned is absolutely **** my plans for the season 🤣

zuffy

Path 9 player here, kingpin being banned is absolutely **** my plans for the season 🤣

In tier 4. Totally screw my season 38.

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Lvernon15

Wtf Doom is doing there?!

Kabam not doing things properly as usual

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