Announcing: M.O.D.O.K.'s Lab

MAD SCIENTIST

The Grandmaster has been so focused on his grand machinations that M.O.D.O.K. has renovated his Laboratory right beneath The Grandmaster’s nose in order to test his new device: M.O.D.O.K.’s Randomizer! Enter M.O.D.O.K.’s Lab and see how the dice rolls as you face off against 6 random opponents with their own set of completely random Buffs! Use M.O.D.O.K.’s Randomizer to spin the wheel again and try to land your ideal set of Buffs! M.O.D.O.K.’s Lab opens for business on December 6th at 10:00 AM PST. You will need to update to Version 16.1 to be able to see or access M.O.D.O.K.’s Lab, which will be available December 6th. Please note, there is a chance that 16.1 will not be available until after 10 AM PST.

THAT’S SO RANDOM

In M.O.D.O.K.’s Lab, there are 4 difficulties. Each Difficulty has 1 path with 6 fights on it. Each fight is a random Champion from 1 of the 6 classes (i.e. the first is a random Mutant , the second is a random Mystic, etc.), and each fight has the same Rarity, Rank, Level, and Signature Level as all the other fights in the same difficulty. Here’s where things get interesting:

Each fight also has a number of random Buffs. The number of random Buffs is always the same on every fight in a given difficulty, but is different between difficulties (i.e. Easy has 1 random buff, Expert has 6). There are over 150 potential Buffs you can encounter, and several million possible combinations. While not every Buff in the game is included in this list of potential Buffs, it does include most of them.

ROLL THE DEFINITELY-NOT-DICE

We know it’s very possible that, especially on harder difficulties, you’ll run into a combo of Buffs that’s just ridiculous. That’s why we have The Randomizer. This item can be used in the pre-fight screen while viewing the Random Active Buffs on a fight to re-randomize all Buffs on that fight. This can be done as many times as you have Randomizers, and we will be including 12 Randomizers in a welcome message when M.O.D.O.K.’s Lab releases. You can also collect 1 from each completion of any difficulty of M.O.D.O.K.’s Lab, so you can collect another 4 every 8 hours (12 each Day). Randomizers will ALSO be purchasable for 2500 Gold up to 12 times per day.

THE WAY IS SHUT

There’s going to be LOTS of things to spend Energy on in December, so we’ve made the Energy requirement for M.O.D.O.K.’s Lab 0. That’s right, absolutely 0. This doesn’t mean you can infinitely farm for rewards, however (you’ll understand why when you see the rewards). Instead, M.O.D.O.K.’s Lab features something new called Entry Limits. Every 8 Hours, you will be able to ENTER each difficulty of M.O.D.O.K.’s Lab 1 time. When the timer on the quest hits 0, your entries will refresh, and you’ll be able to enter each difficulty another time.

Q&A

Why are you doing this?

Because we want there to be something fun, a little more out-there, but also more rewarding that a typical special quest like this. We’re also genuinely interested in observing some of the less-utilized combinations of Buffs to see how you guys handle them!

EDIT: 12/06/2017 @ 10:56 AM PST: Auto-Fight is intentionally NOT enabled in M.O.D.O.K.'s Lab. The main reason is that we want to see how PLAYERS handle the random Buffs, not how the AI does.

So, all the fights are Random?

Yes. This doesn’t work any different from, let’s say, Class Daily quests where there’s a range of potential enemies on a node that change every time you enter the quest. Here’s what it looks like in-game:

But when you re-enter, it might look like this:

As you can see, each node is always the same Class, just a different character from that Class.

So, how hard are the fights then?

This depends significantly on which Buffs appear on a given fight, and which character you’re fighting. As a general rule, any character that can be collected by players can appear as an opponent, so character like Weapon X Wolverine or Dark Phoenix aren’t there. Here’s how the fights are tuned:

Easy
- 2-Star Champions
- Rank 1
- Level 10
- Signature 0

Medium
- 3-Star Champions
- Rank 2
- Level 20
- Signature 10

Hard
- 4-Star Champions
- Rank 3
- Level 30
- Signature 50

Expert
- 5-Star Champions
- Rank 4
- Level 55
- Signature 200

What about the Buffs, are all the Buffs random too?

Yes. This is new, unlike random Champions. Essentially, each Node has a number of Buffs (the number is determined based on whichever difficulty you’re playing) applied to it. The specific Buff(s) are determined based on a Pool of Buffs, which for M.O.D.O.K.’s Lab contains over 150 Buffs. Here’s what that translates to in-game:

As you can see, this fight has a few Buffs on it, but nothing too outrageous, however once you re-enter the quest, these Buffs might look like this:

Comments

hurricant

Is the autofight broken or is it missing by design?

Kabam DK

hurricant wrote: »

Is the autofight broken or is it missing by design?

It's by design. We mentioned it elsewhere earlier today, but we want to see how PLAYERS react to the random Buffs, not the AI. the original post has been edited with this info too.

Batty_Numppo

Kabam DK wrote: »

Qwerty wrote: »

are there any plans for left over randomizer dice after the event is over?

They'll be converted to 2500 Gold Each (their purchase cost)

Kabam DK, I think myself and others were excited to try and save as many randomizers as we could til the event was over, thus gaining a lot of gold when they expire. But they’re capped at a max of 12 in our inventory, and can’t be sold. And overflow randomizers expire in just two days. Just making sure whether this is intentional.

Hulk_77

Batty_Numppo wrote: »

Kabam DK wrote: »

Qwerty wrote: »

are there any plans for left over randomizer dice after the event is over?

They'll be converted to 2500 Gold Each (their purchase cost)

Kabam DK, I think myself and others were excited to try and save as many randomizers as we could til the event was over, thus gaining a lot of gold when they expire. But they’re capped at a max of 12 in our inventory, and can’t be sold. And overflow randomizers expire in just two days. Just making sure whether this is intentional.

Can you sell them?

Batty_Numppo

Hulk_77 wrote: »

Batty_Numppo wrote: »

Kabam DK wrote: »

Qwerty wrote: »

are there any plans for left over randomizer dice after the event is over?

They'll be converted to 2500 Gold Each (their purchase cost)

Kabam DK, I think myself and others were excited to try and save as many randomizers as we could til the event was over, thus gaining a lot of gold when they expire. But they’re capped at a max of 12 in our inventory, and can’t be sold. And overflow randomizers expire in just two days. Just making sure whether this is intentional.

Can you sell them?

Nope.

Someone did the math early in this discussion and found it to be a 840K value. I assumed that meant we could be rewarded as much if we didn’t reroll at all, and I know others did, too. I think that’s why the math was even done in the first place.

Crine60

This 2 day randomized expiration doesn't seem right and why is there a limit on our main stash of them in the first place? I think you guys don't want us rerolling hard nodes too much to force us to fight things we wouldn't want to so you can datamine it to find ways to increase hard nodes in AW.

Beeefsupreme

Why was Ultron's Crit Rate nerfed again?! It was cut down in Half with the 12.0 update, now its been reduced from 13% down to 10%! It is unfair to secretly sabotage players hard earned champions which they spent real money for resources to upgrade. no reason this should have been done. There was no competitive advantage, and it seemed ill-willed by kabam to quietly weaken champions.

DarkestDestroyer

Beeefsupreme wrote: »

Why was Ultron's Crit Rate nerfed again?! It was cut down in Half with the 12.0 update, now its been reduced from 13% down to 10%! It is unfair to secretly sabotage players hard earned champions which they spent real money for resources to upgrade. no reason this should have been done. There was no competitive advantage, and it seemed ill-willed by kabam to quietly weaken champions.

No idea why your flagged! @Kabam Wolf or @Kabam Vydious can one of you confirm if this is true? And if so why it hasn't been mentioned?

This is sly and makes me wonder what other champs are tampered with, especially when we are not told about it!

Crine60

DarkestDestroyer wrote: »

Beeefsupreme wrote: »

Why was Ultron's Crit Rate nerfed again?! It was cut down in Half with the 12.0 update, now its been reduced from 13% down to 10%! It is unfair to secretly sabotage players hard earned champions which they spent real money for resources to upgrade. no reason this should have been done. There was no competitive advantage, and it seemed ill-willed by kabam to quietly weaken champions.

No idea why your flagged! @Kabam Wolf or @Kabam Vydious can one of you confirm if this is true? And if so why it hasn't been mentioned?

This is sly and makes me wonder what other champs are tampered with, especially when we are not told about it!

Maybe flagged because this post has nothing to do with the thread? 16.1 thread might make more sense.

Edit: Plus now that I look at more threads it looks like he hijacked/spammed other threads with the same post not relevant to the threads.

If true it is ridiculous they tried to hide it though.

Dr_Fate

Hello ther kabab...I've been busting ass to finish the expert difficulty and I didn get any 5 star signature stone..what's up with that

Batty_Numppo

Dr_Fate wrote: »

Hello ther kabab...I've been busting ass to finish the expert difficulty and I didn get any 5 star signature stone..what's up with that

50% chance is what’s up with that.

Kabam DK

Hulk_77 wrote: »

Batty_Numppo wrote: »

Kabam DK wrote: »

Qwerty wrote: »

are there any plans for left over randomizer dice after the event is over?

They'll be converted to 2500 Gold Each (their purchase cost)

Kabam DK, I think myself and others were excited to try and save as many randomizers as we could til the event was over, thus gaining a lot of gold when they expire. But they’re capped at a max of 12 in our inventory, and can’t be sold. And overflow randomizers expire in just two days. Just making sure whether this is intentional.

Can you sell them?

No.

The point of the Randomizers is not to hoard them for Gold. Remember, we'll be re-opening the Halls of Fortune alongside the Halls of Healing on December 18th, so if you need Gold, that's the best place to get it.

Randomizers were only ever intended to let you re-roll Buffs in MODOK's Lab.

Smasher56

Can't play the game at all since the last update.

Crine60

Kabam DK wrote: »

Hulk_77 wrote: »

Batty_Numppo wrote: »

Kabam DK wrote: »

Qwerty wrote: »

are there any plans for left over randomizer dice after the event is over?

They'll be converted to 2500 Gold Each (their purchase cost)

Kabam DK, I think myself and others were excited to try and save as many randomizers as we could til the event was over, thus gaining a lot of gold when they expire. But they’re capped at a max of 12 in our inventory, and can’t be sold. And overflow randomizers expire in just two days. Just making sure whether this is intentional.

Can you sell them?

No.

The point of the Randomizers is not to hoard them for Gold. Remember, we'll be re-opening the Halls of Fortune alongside the Halls of Healing on December 18th, so if you need Gold, that's the best place to get it.

Randomizers were only ever intended to let you re-roll Buffs in MODOK's Lab.

What about why they are only good for 2 days?

MarzGroove

I'm digging MODOK's Lab!

IanMoone

Why is there a 12 limit on the dice??? Dont tell me you can you get 4 dices in total bc not worth for lack of rewards in other difficulty. I lost 2 times on expert and barely survived the 3rd attempt

TomerP

I'm not sure who's the genius who thought disabling auto-fighting will be a good idea. Yeah, those 200 PI champs in the low level are really testing my skills... Geez, that just makes it much more annoying to complete.

Superman69

TomerP wrote: »

I'm not sure who's the genius who thought disabling auto-fighting will be a good idea. Yeah, those 200 PI champs in the low level are really testing my skills... Geez, that just makes it much more annoying to complete.

What, you can't do 6 swypes per 8 hours? Stop making an issue out of little things.

TomerP

Superman69 wrote: »

What, you can't do 6 swypes per 8 hours?

6 swipes for the first, 18 for the second and a whole bunch for the third. A waste of time and real energy.

Superman69 wrote: »

Stop making an issue out of little things.

Stop telling people what they should do.

Gbb80

Game show error after update m.o.d.o.k. and i lose my valor. Please help!

Bosley

This Lab event is just dumb. Another attempt at KABAM to get us to buy revive and potions for mediocre rewards, instead of creating interesting skillful gameplay that's challenging to beat.

Qwerty

Bosley wrote: »

This Lab event is just dumb. Another attempt at KABAM to get us to buy revive and potions for mediocre rewards, instead of creating interesting skillful gameplay that's challenging to beat.

except it has costed tons of people no revives or potions to complete.

Raganator

Bosley wrote: »

This Lab event is just dumb. Another attempt at KABAM to get us to buy revive and potions for mediocre rewards, instead of creating interesting skillful gameplay that's challenging to beat.

Awwwww.....

DarkestDestroyer

TomerP wrote: »

Superman69 wrote: »

What, you can't do 6 swypes per 8 hours?

6 swipes for the first, 18 for the second and a whole bunch for the third. A waste of time and real energy.

Superman69 wrote: »

Stop making an issue out of little things.

Stop telling people what they should do.

But I mean... he's right, your whinging for any reason now.

Because you had to do your own fight... in a quest you chose to do... how dare they make you do that! 😒

miko99ort

Hi!

I'm Mikko from the Philippines. I can't upload and update the app. Why is that?

LeNoirFaineant

@miko99ort try pulling down on the App Store page with the list of apps you can update to refresh it and if that doesn’t work reinstall the game

DNA3000

I accidentally rerolled it before screencaping it, but here's my vote for most unbeatable buff combination:

+200% attack/health
Safeguard
Regeneration
Degeneration
Immunity

I'm not even sure if it is beatable at all. Does anything have intrinsic DAA to bypass safeguard that doesn't require debuffs, can deal enough damage to beat 1% regeneration per second, and can do so before 0.6% degen kills them?

This is not a complaint about the event by the way. A reroll solves this combination. I'm just curious if anyone has seen something worse than this, or alternatively knows of a way to beat this.

Incidentally, tangentially related to the discussion about autofight, it seems to be possible to draw safeguard on easy mode. If you enter the fight without checking for it, because it is easy mode, the fight can end up a bit longer than you expected. I assume it was safeguard because while I didn't check before entering, there's no other explanation for a 4/55 Iceman to be dealing 8 points of damage to a 2* Electro.

Mawell1963

Kabam must lower the intensity of the ice fenix coldsnap in the MODOK’Hotel , it is impossible to pass it, it does not require skill, but to have characters 5 * rank 4; do it something, please

SomeoneElse

I have found this to be the least fun event so far. I don't know why Kabam has to put RNGs in everything they do. I would like to see a more creative challenge - one that requires skill, not luck or randomness.

LeNoirFaineant

SomeoneElse wrote: »

I have found this to be the least fun event so far. I don't know why Kabam has to put RNGs in everything they do. I would like to see a more creative challenge - one that requires skill, not luck or randomness.

Couldn't disagree more. We've never seen anything like this and you want more creative? The spiderman quests, the bounty missions etc., all got very boring. These are different every time. You have the option of trying out some difficult buff combinations or re-rolling, and the expert level requires skill. It's almost like they gave you everything you are complaining that they ought to be giving you. And the rewards are good. I guess some will complain no matter what.