Alliance Wars Discussion Thread

Hey Summoners!

We've just dropped some information on our next iteration of Alliance Wars, and this one includes some big changes to the Scoring method! Take a look at the announcement Thread and let us know if you have any questions or feedback!

http://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/36645/alliance-wars-scoring-update-coming-december-13th

We've closed the last discussion thread, because it references older information that is no longer relevant. You can find that archived thread here: http://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/31767/alliance-wars-discussion-2-0/

Comments

BronxHugeth

Defenders aren't hidden and the matchmaking still sucks. I get trying to match opponents with similar war rating, but you need to also take into account their alliance rating. First war we are looking forward to the new system and we get matched against an alliance that is 4million higher than us. Need to find a better system.

World Eater

Kabam Miike wrote: »

Slig wrote: »

Is the new scoring system live?

It is indeed!

Would really appreciate some help about what AW tiers play on what maps that I posted about on the previous page... even if it's only a link to a previous mod post.

And an update on when AW defenders would be hidden again.

Jmetro

So you buffed the nodes with diversity playing a much more important factor , so now that AW is more defensive hero oriented ( like it was in season 1 ie. Magik magik magik) shouldn’t you dial back the buffs as well?

Pendekar82

Don't you guys ever think if we meet the opponent that dont place defender? So there is no attacker bonus right?
Kabam should count defender placement as a point to counter this problems..

Thanks ☺

GroundedWisdom

Actually, one of the reasons they added Attack Bonus Points is to address the lack of Defenders placed as a tactic.

winterthur

DNA3000 wrote: »

I suggested something similar a while back, but I think MODOK's Lab is a validation of the idea. There are a lot of buffs in MODOK that you just don't want to normally face.

I was wondering why there are buffs like Spectre and Power Seal appearing in M.O.D.O.K.'s Lab.
It will be interesting to row a Randomiser and place a Tough It Out buff, every 10 hits, activates for 5s, during cooldown, Physical Resistance increase by x%.

Actually, I don't have that Champ.

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Jmetro

zero7 wrote: »

Jmetro wrote: »

So you buffed the nodes with diversity playing a much more important factor , so now that AW is more defensive hero oriented ( like it was in season 1 ie. Magik magik magik) shouldn’t you dial back the buffs as well?

i have a feeling this was their end-game, but i will still gladly take it over spreadsheet wars (which may have also part been of their end-game).

I hear you, but if it is their end game, then rewards got to go up to be more on par with “end -game “ rewards

GroundedWisdom

I suspect they're going to revisit the Rewards after the system is in place and as close to appeasing both sides as possible. Meaning, making sure that there are no further iterations needed. At least that's my assumption.

Kenshio

i think its good to give us reward for diversity alone
like 3-4-5* shards depends on tier and % diversity
and dont give it to winner without 100% diversity

for example :
20 4* shards for 50-60% diversity
70 4* shards for 70-80% diversity
120 4* shards for 80-90% diversity
200 4* shards for 90-100% diversity

and give it to winner with 100% diversity or loser with 50-100% diversity
and dont give it to winner without 100% diversity or loser under 50%

Anonymous

Where do we find these boosts? I have not seen them at all in the loyalty store since 15.0 released.

LeNoirFaineant

They are in there from time to time. Sometimes it's glitched and doesn't actually let you buy them though.

Anonymous

LeNoirFaineant wrote: »

They are in there from time to time. Sometimes it's glitched and doesn't actually let you buy them though.

I saw a pic of some of the boosts in my alliance chat, but most of them say they've never seen any either. I think some people see them and some don't.

Jmetro

Moderator : Due to the new scoring , difficulty has remarkably increased , I hope that you either a) dials back the node buffs since it isn’t about diversity anymore or b) changes the reward payout .. since we are in essence doing twice the work for the same pay now. Please give us some feedback
Community please bump .

Mmx1991

Just finished watching Seatin beat the final boss of act 5.4, Labyrinth Ultron, AND IT WAS EASIER THAN A NODE 24 LAB ULTRON.

When the final boss of Act 5 is easier than a crummy node in AW, then there's something really wrong here.

FIX NODE 24!

Koukou81

So there obviously is a mistake in your spreadsheet right?

There should be a max of 485 points in attack bonus and not 450 since there are 55 nodes in each bg were we can place defenders on and empty nodes give us 3 points automatically.

StuffofLegend

If Diversity is really intended to be a tie breaker only, it should award only 1 point to the alliance with the highest number of unique defenders. It only takes 1 point to break a tie

Kreap_805

Hidden champs along with hidden classes.. make war.. a war.. 100% every war? Cmon, you need to work for 100%... baby mode..

Justice_Evo_8

Aw still sucks. We had less deaths and still lost the war. Tired of this ****.

Justice_Evo_8

Skill should be the ONLY deciding factor when players are going against other actual players.

LeNoirFaineant

@Justice_Evo_8 new scoring hasn't gone into effect yet.

Etaki_Lirakoi

LeNoirFaineant wrote: »

@Justice_Evo_8 new scoring hasn't gone into effect yet.

I think has been for the past 2 wars...

Lialechka

I didn’t read the whole thread, so I apologize if repeating.
Because of the 1st change in AW ( big bonus for diversity) a lot of people wasted gold and tier 4 basic and class catalysts as well as iso.
With the new change (good one) can we get the tokens to lower those hero we wouldn’t upgrade if it wasn’t for the diversity.

Greywarden

@Kabam Miike any discussions being had about the top left mini-boss only having one portal?

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LeNoirFaineant

Etaki_Lirakoi wrote: »

LeNoirFaineant wrote: »

@Justice_Evo_8 new scoring hasn't gone into effect yet.

I think has been for the past 2 wars...

You're right. For some reason I had it in my head it was after maintenance.

hurricant

Kudos Kabam. Been critical of wars in the past, but this seems like it may have fixed it.

GroundedWisdom

Have to say, after trying the new system out, I like it. I find it's a compromise of alot of ideas, and it's easier to keep track of than I expected. Just wanted to give credit.

Voluntaris

Any update on when the non boss defenders will get hidden again? While you're at it, go ahead and hide the classes as well in Tier 1.

Darkstar4387

Not sure how I feel about this new system either, just lost a war by 120 points which sucks but some played poorly which cost us in the end but it is what it is people are just going to have to adjust to all this again until they pull out more changes again which are most likely coming until we reach the final version