Should Spider-Man (Classic)'s Evade be nerfed?

Batman_26_2019

Feel free to give reasons for either answer.

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Chris_L_H

Absolutely no reason to.

Batman_26_2019

So I take it everyone of the millions that play this game are MASTERS of evading his L1 and at fighting him anywhere.
Good to know.

Spurgeon14

Why would it need to be nerfed? Its not like he is OP or impossible to fight or anything.

GbSarkar

Batman_26_2019 wrote: »

So I take it everyone of the millions that play this game are MASTERS of evading his L1 and at fighting him anywhere.
Good to know.

How about joining those millions and learning how to fight him? Lots of YT videos about how to fight him

Batman_26_2019

I'm aware, it just causes many issues for a lot of people on certain content.
I'm 99% sure on this

Batman_26_2019

So a lower evasion chance would make life easier, and people won't rage as much and quit the game if they do that

LocoMotives

Batman_26_2019 wrote: »

I'm aware, it just causes many issues for a lot of people on certain content.
I'm 99% sure on this

Don’t bet on it. There are plenty of champs that can bypass his evade, and nerfing evade has nothing to do with his sp1 being hard to dodge. Doesn’t need nerfed, he just takes time to learn like NC.

Chris_L_H

Why not just use one of the many counters to him? I seriously doubt that there are many people rage quitting specifically because of classic spidey.

What about the other spideys that also evade? What about Night Crawler?

TheDemon

Absolutely no reason to nerf him. His evade is easily negated with certain champions (yes, more than just good old Black Widow). And besides if you remove his major advantage then he is nothing but a lower health worthless champ, aka Spider-Gwen.

SpiritOfVengeance

Spidey is a threat no one can beat him and I mean no one.

Batman_26_2019

SpiritOfVengeance wrote: »

Spidey is a threat no one can beat him and I mean no one.

Even I have beat him

Batman_26_2019

And ok, I can see everyone's point atm, I was just wanting some opinions is all

Magrailothos

It's what makes fighting him a challenge; and he is a glass cannon to make up for it. There are many ways to deal with it - using particular champs (mostly Skill champs with class advantage - CB, AV, BW, KP), Unfazed mastery, using short combos...

If there was a change to be made to Spidey, I'd vote 'Yes' to giving him, Sym Spidey and Spidergwen a basic 5% evade, which then gets increased when they are Awakened/use a defensive SP1. I don't see why Nightcrawler, Ultron, Black Widow and SE Spidey get a basic evade but the original Spiderman doesn't. The total could be adjusted so that only Awakened champs see no overall change; but it would certainly be appreciated by those people who pull a 5-Star (or even 6-Star, soon) Original Spider-Man that they have little hope of ever Awakening.

Batman_26_2019

LocoMotives wrote: »

Batman_26_2019 wrote: »

I'm aware, it just causes many issues for a lot of people on certain content.
I'm 99% sure on this

Don’t bet on it. There are plenty of champs that can bypass his evade, and nerfing evade has nothing to do with his sp1 being hard to dodge. Doesn’t need nerfed, he just takes time to learn like NC.

Fair enough. I'm just trash at fighting him I guess

Batman_26_2019

So, who are the "many champs" that negate the evasion

Batman_26_2019

GbSarkar wrote: »

Batman_26_2019 wrote: »

So I take it everyone of the millions that play this game are MASTERS of evading his L1 and at fighting him anywhere.
Good to know.

How about joining those millions and learning how to fight him? Lots of YT videos about how to fight him

Fair point,i may look some up

TheDemon

Batman_26_2019 wrote: »

So, who are the "many champs" that negate the evasion

Black Widow, Iceman, Crossbones, Gwenpool

DTMelodicMetal

Learn to evade his sp1 and don't button mash or finish combos. Expect him to evade every attack as if you're fighting Nightcrawler and he's much easier to fight, even on stun immunity nodes.

NiteAndDae

Spiderman is a breeze compared to NC.

Voluntaris

TheDemon wrote: »

Batman_26_2019 wrote: »

So, who are the "many champs" that negate the evasion

Black Widow, Iceman, Crossbones, Gwenpool

ArchAngel & Dr. Voodoo as well

Mwhitaker23

Batman_26_2019 wrote: »

So I take it everyone of the millions that play this game are MASTERS of evading his L1 and at fighting him anywhere.
Good to know.

so many ways to counter his evade and his special one just to name a few
AA
iceman
bw
cb
gwenpool
voodoo
agent venom
electa

all those champs can bypass his evade one way or another .. also another thing if you parry him and hit him while he is stunned he has 0%chance to evade.. and his special 1 is fairly easy to evade.. just practice.. if you have a hard time with that push him to his special 2 or just block his special 1.. but no reason to nerf spiderman

Rotmgmoddy

2 years ago, maybe I'd have said yes. But now, we have PLENTY of counters against evade champs. BW, Iceman, GP, Crossbones, Archangel, Falcon...not to mention masteries like Parry, Unfazed, Assassination, along with the playing skill of not mashing your buttons but playing slowly and always paying attention to spiderman and his actions.

No reason to nerf his evade. Spiderman's abilities and talents are mostly specialised and based on that evade. That being taken away makes Spiderman a pretty crappy champion after that.

Batman_26_2019

Ok thanks everyone, the advice and tips are appreciated

GbSarkar

NiteAndDae wrote: »

Spiderman is a breeze compared to NC.

I'll take NC 100 out of 100 times over Spidey. You can completely shut down NC's evade with any champ regardles of nodes. You can't do that against Spidey

Jabbawokky

I used to complain about alot of champs, now I dont complain about anyone. As you grow stronger and get more experience fighting all the champs, they all get easier to fight.

Mmx1991

No, but evades should be changed so they don't evade and hit you in one motion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yprvwbhMQY

bm3epps

lol.. really..parry is your best friend for him and NC

Welderofortune

TheDemon wrote: »

Batman_26_2019 wrote: »

So, who are the "many champs" that negate the evasion

Black Widow, Iceman, Crossbones, Gwenpool

You forgot Killmonger

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Colleen

Batman_26_2019 wrote: »

So I take it everyone of the millions that play this game are MASTERS of evading his L1 and at fighting him anywhere.
Good to know.

No one ever said they were a master at playing against spidey but his evade is what actually makes him useful....I would never use spidey against 5.4.6 ultron or the collector but I would use him as a mini boss in platinum tier of war. Just because YOU can’t fight him doesn’t mean he should be nerfed, and actually yes I am one of the ones who can FULLY evade his l1