how to make Carnage better ?

issamaf80 · January 2018

Carnage, Needs a lot of attention. Increased base stats, more fluent bleed generation (chance on hit/crit or on every special) and improve his sig. I suggest making his sig steal a % of enemies health and energy while they are bleeding.
Also I think he should have some form of anti evade ability

Discuss your idea on how to make carnage better ?

Nanoson · January 2018

I agree, his appearance needs a bit of improvement not to mention the fact that all his attacks should cause a % of bleed damage plus his speed should be on Paris with tech version Spiderman or close to it.

GroundedWisdom · January 2018

Sorry, I have to disagree with the appearance. One of my favorite designs.

issamaf80 · January 2018

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Sorry, I have to disagree with the appearance. One of my favorite designs.

he need some changes

GroundedWisdom · January 2018

I was talking about the graphics design.

issamaf80 · January 2018

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

I was talking about the graphics design.

sorry the design is good

Greenstroke · January 2018

Just put him back to where he was before the release, 150 hits against ROL WS aint OP, there are "many" champs that can do it, ffs its kinda outrageous that every single Spiderman + Venom is stronger than Carnage

Magrailothos · January 2018

I agree with @GroundedWisdom, the graphics design is great.

However, Carnage's Sig is completely useless. Compare his "Up to 20% power gain Vs opponents who have been bleeding long enough" with Moon Knights "Up to 35% power gain/power suppression against anyone". Or compare to the fact that Blade doesn't even need Awakened to get a similar benefit to Carnage. It doesn't really stack up, does it?

A version of Venom's/X-23's bleed-related cruelty + precision would seem better; or Punisher's ability to cause open wounds and generate new bleeds with them.

Alternately he could get some better defensive utility -
- Symbiote-driven Bleed and poison resistance.
Evasion reduction.
- His buffs could persist for 1-2 seconds rather than flipping constantly; allowing the user to combine Precision plus Fury or Cruelty.
- Power gain buffs like Cable/Hyperion.

Cptn_Gladiator · January 2018

Atleast they shuld increase his health nd other basic stats... As till he gets some statcks of cruelty or precision he get dead.

issamaf80 · January 2018

Greenstroke wrote: »

Just put him back to where he was before the release, 150 hits against ROL WS aint OP, there are "many" champs that can do it, ffs its kinda outrageous that every single Spiderman + Venom is stronger than Carnage

how did he was before

issamaf80 · January 2018

issamaf80 · January 2018

Hubris_hater wrote: »

The thing is, the game moves on. I dont think Kabam has the resources or time to go back to champs that much. And I dont think it is a priority for them either tbh. They need to develop and release new champs ongoing to keep the game growing and people interested. They do this very very well imho! So cant see any drastic changes to him for a long time yet, if at all

On a separate issue: Always makes me laugh when you look at the older champs as well ( a lot older than Carnage) and their skill is armor break, or bleed, or armor up, and that it! Now reading a new champs skills take all day! And I still dont understand what they do!

they beffed civil warrior

Greenstroke · January 2018

issamaf80 wrote: »

Greenstroke wrote: »

Just put him back to where he was before the release, 150 hits against ROL WS aint OP, there are "many" champs that can do it, ffs its kinda outrageous that every single Spiderman + Venom is stronger than Carnage

how did he was before

Dont know, kabam just said that Carnage could take out ROL WS in 150 hits before he was released in the game so they nerfef him before the release since he was too OP, but lets just say that a 5* r4 AA can take ROL WS in 35 hits.... So that aint op? Cant really see any logic in kabams mind.......

Greenstroke · January 2018

issamaf80 wrote: »

My god, look at that pathetic bleed!!!! 163 with 6 furys on. FFS my mothers kitchen knife inflicts a bigger bleed than that....

AryanNoob · January 2018

Greenstroke wrote: »

issamaf80 wrote: »

Greenstroke wrote: »

Just put him back to where he was before the release, 150 hits against ROL WS aint OP, there are "many" champs that can do it, ffs its kinda outrageous that every single Spiderman + Venom is stronger than Carnage

how did he was before

Dont know, kabam just said that Carnage could take out ROL WS in 150 hits before he was released in the game so they nerfef him before the release since he was too OP, but lets just say that a 5* r4 AA can take ROL WS in 35 hits.... So that aint op? Cant really see any logic in kabams mind.......

Uh,the only reason they dont nerf AA is because he has no use against immunes... which are like half of the champions in the game.

BrotherVo · January 2018

Remove him from game

AryanNoob · January 2018

And by the way here are ideas to make him better:
Regen
Bleed should be on the level of GP or Blade.
When gaining fury,it should increase the damage way more.
When gaining more critical rating chance, it should increase the amount of increased critical rating way more.
When gaining cruelty, it should increase the crit damage way more.
When gaining physical resist,it should decrease the physical damage way more.
When gaining block prof,it should increase your block prof way more.
Anyways,that’s how i think he should be buffed.

issamaf80 · January 2018

AryanNoob wrote: »

And by the way here are ideas to make him better:
Regen
Bleed should be on the level of GP or Blade.
When gaining fury,it should increase the damage way more.
When gaining more critical rating chance, it should increase the amount of increased critical rating way more.
When gaining cruelty, it should increase the crit damage way more.
When gaining physical resist,it should decrease the physical damage way more.
When gaining block prof,it should increase your block prof way more.
Anyways,that’s how i think he should be buffed.

good idea

issamaf80 · August 2018

More idea

The_Soul_Assassin · August 2018

issamaf80 wrote: »

Carnage, Needs a lot of attention. Increased base stats, more fluent bleed generation (chance on hit/crit or on every special) and improve his sig. I suggest making his sig steal a % of enemies health and energy while they are bleeding.
Also I think he should have some form of anti evade ability

Discuss your idea on how to make carnage better ?

I really like the idea of an anti-evade mechanic!

Duke_Silver · August 2018

Chances are he’s one of the two cosmic champs to be buffed.

Namelez · August 2018

Magrailothos wrote: »

I agree with @GroundedWisdom, the graphics design is great.

However, Carnage's Sig is completely useless. Compare his "Up to 20% power gain Vs opponents who have been bleeding long enough" with Moon Knights "Up to 35% power gain/power suppression against anyone". Or compare to the fact that Blade doesn't even need Awakened to get a similar benefit to Carnage. It doesn't really stack up, does it?

A version of Venom's/X-23's bleed-related cruelty + precision would seem better; or Punisher's ability to cause open wounds and generate new bleeds with them.

Alternately he could get some better defensive utility -
- Symbiote-driven Bleed and poison resistance.
Evasion reduction.
- His buffs could persist for 1-2 seconds rather than flipping constantly; allowing the user to combine Precision plus Fury or Cruelty.
- Power gain buffs like Cable/Hyperion.

His power gain from bleed needs to be like Blade but he should be able to regen from it too