What are the chances of pulling back to back champs?

Literally pulled this, just after the new champs was added to the basic pool, i would assume R N G.
Has this ever happen to you? Do you think kabam did this on purpose?

I also seen someone pull double spider gwen from 2 stark crystals.

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Demonzfyre

kabam says all champs have the same chance to be pulled in each crystal. so its possible for this to happen. you just got lucky in this case. Angela is a good champ and you get 6* shards

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Grufty

I occasionally play roulette at a casino and it's amazing how often the same number comes out 2/3/4 times in a row.

I know there's more champions than numbers on a roulette table but this is how random works...

CoatHang3r

zero7 wrote: »

(1/78)X(1/78)=1/6084
pretty unlikely!

That looks like the answer for pulling a specific champion twice. For a random champion it’s 1/78

JRock808

Actually the odds are 2.5%.

Not impossible. And i recently did the same thing, with the same champ. Not complaining, was capped n t2a and she's a good r4 choice.

Spino

That's exactly the same odd of pulling any 2 champions back to back.
Spidey + Voodoo
Iron Man + Groot
Carnage + Magik
Widow + Widow...

I mean, once you have pulled Angela once, you have the same odds to put another Angela than any other specific champion.

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CoatHang3r

BitterSteel wrote: »

CoatHang3r wrote: »

zero7 wrote: »

(1/78)X(1/78)=1/6084
pretty unlikely!

That looks like the answer for pulling a specific champion twice. For a random champion it’s 1/78

Well yeah, that’s what the question is. “What are the odds of pulling back to back champions” why are you correcting him for answering OPs question?

Since the first champion is random the only factor is the chance to pull that champion again.

*The question was to pull a champion twice, not pull a specific champion twice.

JRock808

What are the odds of getting snakeyes when playing craps? 1/6? No. While individually, each die has a 1/6 chance of being a 1, the odds of getting 2 1s in 2 rolls is not 1/6.

You can't judge it as independent events. The premise is based on getting one specific champ twice in 2 tries. Just like rolling 2 die.

CoatHang3r

BitterSteel wrote: »

CoatHang3r wrote: »

BitterSteel wrote: »

CoatHang3r wrote: »

zero7 wrote: »

(1/78)X(1/78)=1/6084
pretty unlikely!

That looks like the answer for pulling a specific champion twice. For a random champion it’s 1/78

Well yeah, that’s what the question is. “What are the odds of pulling back to back champions” why are you correcting him for answering OPs question?

Since the first champion is random the only factor is the chance to pull that champion again.

*The question was to pull a champion twice, not pull a specific champion twice.

Just to clarify. Are you saying that the odds to get, from 2 crystals, Angela twice are 1 in 78?

I’m saying the chance to get the same champion twice is 1/78. The chance to get a specific champion twice is higher of course.

JRock808

zero7 wrote: »

JRock808 wrote: »

Actually the odds are 2.5%.

Not impossible. And i recently did the same thing, with the same champ. Not complaining, was capped n t2a and she's a good r4 choice.

how did you calculate that? interested to know

The wrong way, 1/6k is actually correct.

You'd have a 2.5% chance to pull once Angela in 2 crystals, not 2 Angela!

Nexus_UY_Scuti

Either it happens, or it doesn't. 1 out of 2 possibilities.

So 50% chance.

ContestOfNoobs

Spino wrote: »

That's exactly the same odd of pulling any 2 champions back to back.
Spidey + Voodoo
Iron Man + Groot
Carnage + Magik
Widow + Widow...

I mean, once you have pulled Angela once, you have the same odds to put another Angela than any other specific champion.

im talking about getting the champ and then pulling exact same champ twice, thats like
saying i NEEED to roll the dice on 2 and also roll it again to get 2.

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Fingfangfoomfanes

Happened to me after my ally pulled the same champs

Nexus_UY_Scuti

BitterSteel wrote: »

Nexus_UY_Scuti wrote: »

Either it happens, or it doesn't. 1 out of 2 possibilities.

So 50% chance.

By that logic there’s a 50% chance I shoot porridge from my nipples

Is that your SP3?

Grufty

There's multiple scenarios that people are talking about so let's break them all down:

Let's say you have 2 crystals

Before you open either, you predict the outcome (this could be 2 random or 2 the same). The odds for this prediction is (1/78)x(1/78).

You open 1 crystal and pull Angela, you now want to predict the next outcome (this could be 1 random or another Angela). The odds for this prediction is 1/78.

Once you have already opened a crystal, the chances to the pull the same champion again is the same as any other champion.

whaler213

ive done it twice first with IP (my first 5* dupe) and later with gambit

Nexus_UY_Scuti

In all seriousness, the odds for pulling one particular champ twice in a row is 1/78 x 1/78.

However, since the question did not specify which champ, the chances are increased by a factor of 78 (two luke cages, two iceman, two angela, etc etc).

So, the chances is 1.2%.

Bmf420

Consider yourself lucky. The oddest thing to happen to me was from premiums. I opened three and duped all three of my Storms 2* 3* 4*.

Pandorica333

Just pulled back to back 5* voodoo. Someone in my ally did back to back sl 5*. Happens more than you’d think.

ContestOfNoobs

whaler213 wrote: »

ive done it twice first with IP (my first 5* dupe) and later with gambit

R N G?

Bahamut

ContestOfNoobs wrote: »

Literally pulled this, just after the new champs was added to the basic pool, i would assume R N G.
Has this ever happen to you? Do you think kabam did this on purpose?

I also seen someone pull double spider gwen from 2 stark crystals.

I’m 100% sure that I’ve seen this on Reddit

Speeds80

I've actually seen a mail
From a kabam support team address this question from
Someone who pulled 3 identical
Champs From phcs from memory and they said there actually was an algorithm to Encourage duping champs which was designed to act in our favour, the amount of people In my alliance who've awakened someone with a gem then duped them next crystal would suggest that algorithm is in play there too.

Codornas

Iron Patriot - Iron Patriot - Gambit - Iron Patriot

What are the odds?

At least angela is good

tutyimutyi

There is a chance for this pull thereotically,but not in a reality,with normal random generator.even from 20 heroes,the odds are very low,to pull the same,2 times after each other.here we are talking about much bigger numbers,more than 100,if it is a 4*.even from a phc,we get the same 2* heroes 2 times in row so many times,that is just super sick.with a broken,or manipulated algorythm,everything is possible.

Kestrelle

tutyimutyi wrote: »

There is a chance for this pull thereotically,but not in a reality,with normal random generator.even from 20 heroes,the odds are very low,to pull the same,2 times after each other.here we are talking about much bigger numbers,more than 100,if it is a 4*.even from a phc,we get the same 2* heroes 2 times in row so many times,that is just super sick.with a broken,or manipulated algorythm,everything is possible.

Actually, it's not as strange as you think, especially given the number of opportunities. People have to remember that pulling the same **** champ two times in a row has the exact same odds as pulling gwenpool and then pulling hyperion.

tutyimutyi

1st of all,there is a much higher chance to pull a crappy hero,than a good one,otherwise the players are gonna get the new and op heroes much easier,ergo they spend much less.if more people has a strong roster,also they spend less,they can do the harder contents much easier,so better to give them iron patriot and luke cage,with the explanation:this is just rng!very easy to try real random generator simulators on the internet.you never going pull the same numbers from 80-100 numbers 2 times in a row.there is one more thing.why the apple created this new rule about the loot box mechanism?where they bored?i do not think so.

Svain

I pulled crossbones from 4* crystals 3x in a row over the holidays. No joke