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Void nerf before release?
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Look at my screenshots. How am I being stupid?
He hasn't been released! There's no such thing as buffing or nerfing a champ that has not been released.
You were the one who started debating the use of the word nerf in your second post. What you're saying here is that you can argue with the OP, but no one else is allowed to argue with you?
You have a screenshot of a Champ with different stats, that hasn't been released yet, and no official word of anything that has been changed. We don't know if there is a visual error now, there was upon release, if they toned it down because the content was too amped, if the Nodes were toned down, or nothing at all. We don't know because we have no official feedback. So, yes. I'm saying let's wait for an actual response from a Mod before we assume the Champ was nerfed and end up with an uproar over a Champ that people are already anxious about.
None of the terms apply, period. He hasn't been released so he can't be changed, adjusted, nerfed, buffed, anything till he's released.
Well for one thing the MCOC devs don't agree with you as they admitted to nerfing Carnage right before his release. For another thing, the screen shots are of a champ that people faced one day with one set of stats, which then were reduced. Whether or not we call it a nerf shouldn't that get a Kabam explanation? You don't seem to have an actual point.
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Your initial post questioned the validity of this thread ("isn't it a little early for a nerf post"). I agree that we should get a response before people regard this as a serious issue, but threads like this are how we get a response. @danielmath your point isn't meaningful. Act 4 slashed tires juggs doesn't have slashed tires anymore. Short path Venom isn't all-or-nothing. They were nerfed. No one is upset about it (even though it's a little sad lol) because the changes were explained. We are talking about a champ in a current quest who seems to have been changed.
-30 Celsius here. I would feel bad but.....lol
That's fair, i just don't consider a champ to exist till they're released. To me, Void is not in the game at this point as a playable character so there is no such thing as him getting adjusted, as he doesn't exist. And i am upset about that juggy as i had to suffer through it so all the noobs should as well (or just turn everything off with blade).
oh my, that is chilly! You can't go outside, that explains why you're on here 24/7 haha
Lmao. Not that much. Just in-between Grinding. Actually I just got home. Had to go out. #CanadianLife
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You win. XD
If you want a clear definition, once can be found on Oxford:
"1.1 (of a video game developer) reduce the power of (a character, weapon, etc.) in a new installment or update of a video game."
Antonym: Buff
This definition is universal in the fact that it can be found on the Dictionary website and Wiki as well. This clearly states a nerf as a reduction of power from live content. Void was added as part of the lastest installment of in-game live content.
No where in that definition does it say that the content has to be playable by the actual user. While we are very well aware that Void will be added to the pool of playable champions, he stands strictly as an NPC (Non-Playable Character) for now as far as being able to play him. However, you are still, technically, playing against him.
In my 15+ years of playing MMORPGs, I have never heard someone say that a NPC can't be nerfed. This only applies to NPC's who do not directly do anything. When you fight Void, does he just stand there and let you whack on him until he's KOed? No, he doesn't. He has a list of powers and utilities that he uses against you because he is still, technically, a released champion in the game.
When Act 4 and Master Mode had their difficulty adjusted, the content was nerfed. I pull this example because it's literally as playable as Void is at this time. You can play against the content and that's all. So when an adjustment is made to weaken anything currently live in the game, it's a nerf.
So whether a character is playable or not, the champion can be buffed or nerfed as long as it is released in the game. It is and it's clear because we all see his powers and any one of us can fight him in 5 different modes. So yes, he is released. A nerf can benefit the players as much as a buff can, just as a buff can hinder a player as much as a nerf can. It just varies according to who gets the nerf and who gets the buff. There seems to only be a negative connotation on the word "nerf" because it traditionally affects the player negatively. Eventually this one will do that, but, for now, it was nerfed and benefited the community (making him easier to take down).
Now, also @GroundedWisdom you aren't making sense. You keep saying that he's jumping to conclusions. Did you read the title of the thread? He specially ASKS if this was a nerf or something else (such as a typographical error perhaps). Since there were 0 posts made about it from a moderator, the OP and community have a right to question such a drastic change in numbers that clearly seems to be a nerf.
It just seems you wanted to play Devil's Advocate on this, but you really aren't getting away with it this time. You have no valid proof to contradict his supportive evidence (screenshots) of both a before and after of a champion who has only been released for several days. So changes were made here it seems, most likely going undisclosed assuming the community wouldn't notice since he didn't have a Spotlight put out yet. Though, that's pure speculation and I would also like to know the answer to the OP's question.
Just because you don't like the way someone stated how they felt and addressed a question doesn't give you a right to downplay the issue or calling them out. If you don't have an answer that seems constructive, it might just be best to not respond. Offering a helpful hint at what you think it could be would be an interesting and welcoming part of the discussion.
I don't need valid proof. I'm not the one making the assertion. Valid proof does not constitute a screenshot. Valid proof would be an actual, official comment from the Moderators. Until then, it is not a known fact. Yet people have already jumped to the conclusion, and are already commenting on other Threads that he has indeed been nerfed. We don't know what has changed, if anything. So until we have an actual response, we have speculation.
Kabam needs to comment on Voids nerf and The debacle called Sentry. They have been oddly silent on their latest mess.
Could it be that it depends on the path you take to get to Void? If you take one of the three middle paths, you kill a bpcw that also reduces Void's pi.
Nodes do not interfere with base values in abilities section. And no way a 50% boost on top of 200% local node boost can reduce it from 7.3k to 4.4k
How is this guy still allowed on the forums? Sure he abides by the rules of the forums, but isn't a criminal who operates within the law still a criminal? He incites anger on a regular basis.
The Forum is here for everyone, not just a Moderator. Anyone can participate. What derails Threads is making it personal by singling out people individually, and taking the discussion off-topic. Nowhere did I imply that people can't read numbers. I said we don't know what the reason for the numbers is. We don't know.
It's almost like you are so set on defending kabam that you aren't even reading what you are responding to.
These aren't baseless claims. They have merit. So beyond saying you don't know and that others can't use the word nerf without prior approval from a moderator, do you have any constructive comments on what you, personally, believe this issue could be? Because that's really all that matters. @GroundedWisdom
Evidence has been put forth that he was altered. The thread is asking Kabam to comment on whether or not this is the case. If your stated position were accurate your posts would be embracing the question rather than defending Kabam even when Kabam isn't under attack. You are so set in your roll as Kabam defender that you have to put out fires that aren't even burning.