5-Star Featured Crystal Change Discussion Thread

Summoners!

We've just released some more information on the future of the 5-Star Featured Crystal here: https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/43300/upcoming-changes-to-5-star-featured-crystal

We know you've got questions, and this is the place to ask and discuss!

FAQ

Will you announce the pool of 18 each time it changes?
We do plan on sharing the list every time the crystal is updated.

Can you buy the 5 star featured crystal with units or only shards?
This crystal is replacing the currently available 15,000 Shard Featured Hero Crystals.

So does it means that if a new champ comes to the Battle Realm we won't be able to get them as a 5* right away?
You will still be able to get them in the Grandmaster Featured Crystal, but they will not be available in a featured 5-Star Hero Shard Crystal until they are added to this new Crystal. So, this might mean having to wait a little while to get some Champions, but it also gives you a shot at 6 New Champions at a time, as well as a smaller Basic pool.

Comments

ContestOfNoobs

so its 6 FEATURED champions ina crystal?
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6 champion featured crystal (15k)
18 so its champions 5* crystal (10k)

Kabam Miike

BossyBuilder wrote: »

Kabam Miike wrote: »

Hulksmasshh wrote: »

Just to clarify, will the new 5* featured crystal will have an equal chance at all champions in the pool or have an 'increased' chance at certain champions as the current 15k 5* crystal does? Also, does this mean the sub-feature pool is going away?

There will be an equal chance for every Champion in this Crystal. No increased chance for any particular Champion.

but the champs in those crystals will not include all champs in the overall pool, right? Jus the 6 featured and the 18 selected champs?

Exactly! There are only 24 Champions in this Crystal. 6 Featured Champions, and a base pool of 18. This means that Duplicating a Champion in that Crystal will be much easier.

EvilEmpire

I’m curious if the crystal is being changed because the feature has never been a fair shake for everyone and they don’t want to reveal that it had fluctuating odds based on an unknown set of variable that probably includes money spent.

SpiritOfVengeance

Pleaseeee choose champions that we all love and need.

Vdh2008

Willing to bet $$$ that we will always see 1-3 of the garbage tier in the 24 champs as well.

BitterSteel

All this seems to me is so that people can’t save up 100k 5* shards and then go for a really good champ meaning they get them duped several times. Instead now you need to go for a random chance and you’ll need (statistically) between 25 and 48 crystals to dupe the champ you want which is ridiculous

Hulksmasshh

Siliyo wrote: »

Kabam Miike wrote: »

benshb wrote: »

Soo as for february 22, instead of opening a Blade 15,000 shard crystal with increased chance on Blade, we will be opening a 15,000 shard crystal from a fix 24 champion pool, with no increased chance on Blade, but a rather equal chance on Blade or Sentry?

As stated in the Announcement, you can see that we have made an exception for Blade, and he will still have his regular Featured Hero Crystal.

You did not answer his question, which has more importance: Will this new featured crystal give an INCREASED chance at the champion we want such as Blade when his crystal arrives or just an equal chance at all new champs?

That question was answered already, the returning Blade crystal will be the same 15k featured crystal as it is now. The new feature 5* crystal will not have an increased chance at anyone and equal for all the champions in that pool.

Kabam Miike

Loremaster101 wrote: »

Confused about Blade:
Blade will be added to the regular pool on the 16, then the Blade FEATURED Crystal at 15k Shards will be available on the 23 or 28 (I forget which date)??

Yes i've been saving Big time!

He will not be added to the regular pool on the 16th. We have caught up the regular release schedule, and Blade will be added to the 5-Star Basic Crystal at the same time his 3-Star and 4-Star version are added to the Premium Hero Crystal.

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BoosterStqts

I don't entirely understand, mind explaining what this crystal is??

Bendy

So how long will this go on for and the 18 other 5s are they gonna be new ones that are from 4 star variety

Notvasq

How will those 18 champions be chosed? Will you choose, according to y'all standard, few *bad* pull, like a lottery ticket where it is a *better chance next time*. Because let's be honest, you can't really put in that crystal the top 18 you can think of everytime. But you guys can decide to put a few of those *bad* champs in it. Or along with that new crystal, are you guys planning to try to balance the tier list overall?

Cuntessa

Can we leave old/useless champs out of the 18 pool until they are all fixed

For example kamala khan falcon captain America cyclops civil warrior

SpiritOfVengeance

Please reply to this. So you said you are taking extra care when choosing so will all these champs be champs we all need like iceman or archangel or gwenpool and stark all in one? Or will you add other champs like carnage?

bradshaw84

So am I understanding this right, when a new champ is released in 4* arena it could potentially be almost 3 months before he’s available as a 5* in a featured crystal at a 1 in 24 chance if his arena is early in the 3 month cycle?

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master88

does this change have anything to do with the release of 6 stars ?

VanillaCoke

Hulksmasshh wrote: »

Siliyo wrote: »

Kabam Miike wrote: »

benshb wrote: »

Soo as for february 22, instead of opening a Blade 15,000 shard crystal with increased chance on Blade, we will be opening a 15,000 shard crystal from a fix 24 champion pool, with no increased chance on Blade, but a rather equal chance on Blade or Sentry?

As stated in the Announcement, you can see that we have made an exception for Blade, and he will still have his regular Featured Hero Crystal.

You did not answer his question, which has more importance: Will this new featured crystal give an INCREASED chance at the champion we want such as Blade when his crystal arrives or just an equal chance at all new champs?

That question was answered already, the returning Blade crystal will be the same 15k featured crystal as it is now. The new feature 5* crystal will not have an increased chance at anyone and equal for all the champions in that pool.

Oh great so Kabam decides to nerf the chances players have at getting Blade. You create a character as great as him yet you change the system to make it more difficult for players to get him. Good job Kabam. Nice work @Kabam Miike

Zeke_the_Xbot

Small suggestion to this crystal you have 12 weeks before the crystal gets updated based on the game message we got right?. So why not make these true featured champion crystals with the caveat of each week 2 of the champions in these new 5* Featured Crystals receive an increase drop chance and they rotate every 3 weeks among the 6 most recent featured champs. This way they still feel like featured champion crystals and not just more expensive 5* crystals with a smaller pool of champions.

RockSlyde

In the additional group of 18, are there 3 of each class? Or are you picking them without that in mind?

Grimmbear

Holy ****, this blows. Thank god you guys had the foresight to give us Blade. Either way, this crystal is worthless for top tier players unless the pool is literally god tier only.

rwhack

Greywarden wrote: »

BitterSteel wrote: »

So the new featured crystal is just a new version of the basic crystal that costs 5000 shards more?

What’s the point? The only way that the new featured crystal is better than the old one is if the old featured crystal had odds worse than 1 in 18 which is what the new one is. I’ve got to say I’m disappointed

Odds are actually now 4.2% since it will be 1 out of 24 if you're going for a specific champ. Nobody had the exact percentage of the current featured but the community tends to agree that the chance was/is 20-25%.

I've gone 2 for 38 so a 20% chance seems unlikely to have been 20%.

I see several issues:
1. You did not disclose any odds of getting one versus the other. MY BAD. ITS 4.2% PER HERO IN IT. Not good.
2. The complaint we had before was that 5 star featured pulls weren't relational. Some people got them all the time others could spin forever and get nothing. We now have a 1 in 24 chance of getting who we want at a cost of 15K in shards. It's not worth it.
3. Buying featured GMs is a 1% chance of getting a 5 star. The odds of getting the featured one is even lower so let's say .01% This is also not worth it....and I spend. I'm in a top 10 alliance (top 5 really).

Disclose your odds on the FGM. Right now you seem to be at odds with apple policy. It's hard to tell if this is a good change or not but right now you took something that was inherently unfair and seemed to make it worse.

You thought equal was fair when you made pulls random for featured champs. They should have been relational over time. If anyone things equal is fair they're probably not a great employee and don't do much at work. For example I want to be paid fairly not equally. Equally is inherently unfair to hard workers. I'm disappointed with how tone deaf changes seem to be.

SuperChrona

18 "standard" champs is to many. Serious consider changing it to 6. And change the schedule to every 2 month. Otherwise you end up with people not wanting to buy it. 4.2% chance for a dupe. No thanks.

Kabam Miike

EvilEmpire wrote: »

I’m curious if the crystal is being changed because the feature has never been a fair shake for everyone and they don’t want to reveal that it had fluctuating odds based on an unknown set of variable that probably includes money spent.

I knew this would come up! No, this is not the case. We've planned this for a little while, and to be fair, players have been Community Sourcing drop rates on the 5-Star Featured Hero Crystal for quite some time, and they have always been consistent.

DocMcShottie

Siliyo wrote: »

Oh great so Kabam decides to nerf the chances players have at getting Blade. You create a character as great as him yet you change the system to make it more difficult for players to get him. Good job Kabam. Nice work @Kabam Miike

You didn’t read at all did you? Blade’s solo featured crystal is coming back, and he’s being added to basic crystal the same month.... read before you post

JFerg114

Money grab! If they hadn't made an exception for Blade it would have been an all out riot!

Hatshipuh

So currently it's full basic pool plus subfeatured and "increased chance" at 2 featured per pull.
New system is just a chance at one out of 24 champs (18 "currated champs" plus last 6 featured).
The odds per pull don't sound too promising...

Twunt

Let me understand: only 6 champs will be in the newly featured crystals so you are guaranteed 1 of 6 within the pool?

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Kabam Miike

Notvasq wrote: »

How will those 18 champions be chosed? Will you choose, according to y'all standard, few *bad* pull, like a lottery ticket where it is a *better chance next time*. Because let's be honest, you can't really put in that crystal the top 18 you can think of everytime. But you guys can decide to put a few of those *bad* champs in it. Or along with that new crystal, are you guys planning to try to balance the tier list overall?

We are using empirical data based on Champion performance in Alliance Quests and Alliance Wars to decide which Champions will be added to the Crystal. This means that while Player perception of the Champions may not always align, we are trying to avoid poor performing Champions in these Crystals.