5-Star Featured Crystal Change Discussion Thread

Summoners!

We've just released some more information on the future of the 5-Star Featured Crystal here: https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/43300/upcoming-changes-to-5-star-featured-crystal

We know you've got questions, and this is the place to ask and discuss!

FAQ

Will you announce the pool of 18 each time it changes?
We do plan on sharing the list every time the crystal is updated.

Can you buy the 5 star featured crystal with units or only shards?
This crystal is replacing the currently available 15,000 Shard Featured Hero Crystals.

So does it means that if a new champ comes to the Battle Realm we won't be able to get them as a 5* right away?
You will still be able to get them in the Grandmaster Featured Crystal, but they will not be available in a featured 5-Star Hero Shard Crystal until they are added to this new Crystal. So, this might mean having to wait a little while to get some Champions, but it also gives you a shot at 6 New Champions at a time, as well as a smaller Basic pool.

Comments

Nexus_UY_Scuti

Kabam Miike wrote: »

Just talked to the team, and they are comfortable with sharing the list of Champions we plan to include in the first Featured Champion Crystal. It's important to note that this list could still potentially change a little before the release, but the selected Champions are based on empirical data showing their effectiveness as 5-Star Champions in both Alliance Quests and Alliance Wars.

Beast
Storm
Cable
Cyclops (New Xavier School)
Thor (Ragnarok)
Taskmaster
Agent Venom
Hawkeye
Modok
Sentry
Void
Ant-Man
Mordo
Thor (Jane Foster)
Loki
Juggernaut
Hela
Phoenix
Ronan
Venompool
Nebula
Punisher (2099)
Civil Warrior
Doctor Octopus

Bold Text denotes Featured Champions.

One question, how does emperical data indicate AW and AQ effectiveness?

I thought by now Kabam would have realized that emperical data means squat when it comes to AW and AQ, you need players to test out the champs because obviously your data are full of loopholes like Loki-Hela synergy, GP infinite heavy, Kang's infinite stun lock etc.

Jaffacaked

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Player1994 wrote: »

if we won't be able to get a featured champ with this crystal ? then why it will cost us 15k shards ? basically it's becoming a normal crystal pool means having to wait months and months to pull a luke cage

You will be able to get them. The chance of one specific Feature will be less, but the chance of a Feature in general will be more.

How when miike stated that it a 4% chance an that the feature has the same odds as the basic champs in the crystal

Thatweirdguy

lordmarsh09 wrote: »

@Kabam Miike
This may seem like it will drive Grandmaster Crystal sales. But the whales can only provide so much with those. The main points of interest for the whole community were 5 star shard offers or the spending of money for hard quest to get 5 star shards. People won't be going for the shards anymore as the featured crystals aren't worth it anymore.

I see the 5 star featured coming back after short testing.

Sadly I think you are incorrect. It is likely that 80% of their income comes from 20% of the player base. That 20% will be buying odin after odin's worth of FGMC. The game used to function this way in the past. The difference is that there is no 5* arena so the only way to get the champ immediately at 5* level is by purchasing FGMC.

The interesting question is how Kabam is going work around the Apple requirements as to disclosing drop rates on FGMC.

SpiritOfVengeance

Seatins new video sees pretty legit. What do you think of seatins new video about this annoucement @Kabam Miike ? It seems pretty accurate.

TheGodfather

I said this before, and I'll say it again because it seemed almost everyone agreed with this.

My suggestion:

Keep the core concepts but keep the odds of our current featured crystal.
- 2 Featured Champs, 6 Basic - total of 8 Champs in Crystal
- Rotated every month instead of 3 months
- Can make the basic champs total meme champs (KK, IP, SG, etc)

Hit "Agree" if you Agree, hit "Insightful" if you don't.

Please comment regardless so Kabam hears the community!

SpiritOfVengeance

I don't understand why for 5000 MORE shards you get a chance at all of these bad champions. Whereas the 10k has much more better choices. At least improve the pool guys.

Apache

As if you guys didn’t make enough from the gmc’s

colbyscipio987

Apache wrote: »

As if you guys didn’t make enough from the gmc’s

Some people dont have the uncollected title and don't get 5 stars and this will make things a lot more harder

Thecurler

Got myself a new Avatar.

Cosminn

I recently had to take unduped Hulk to Rank4 because I had expiring T2 Alpha. So that being said, i've seen the drop rates and what 'luck' means. I would like to see the 5* arena released, so I can make my own 'luck' !

Thecurler

Theturdcurler wrote: »

Got myself a new Avatar.

And I’d like to add that although it’s not one of the most used avatars, it’s one of the most effective.

mum_m2

Beast
Storm
Cable
Cyclops (New Xavier School)
Thor (Ragnarok)
Taskmaster
Agent Venom
Hawkeye
Modok
Sentry
Void
Ant-Man
Mordo
Thor (Jane Foster)
Loki
Juggernaut
Hela
Phoenix
Ronan
Venompool
Nebula
Punisher (2099)
Civil Warrior
Doctor Octopus

This list worries me to great extremes if you have data to support that they are "effective". I've never seen anyone use ant-man on offense. Never seen anyone use a cyclops either. Venom Pool? This data must be based only by effectiveness, not what the majority of people are using. Just because one skilled player uses Cyclops really well, doesn't mean he's effective. That's like saying one papaya is the same as a banana. They both provide a lot of potassium, but no one eats Papaya because they suck!

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Thatweirdguy

New players who don't have dexterity unlocked probably still get smoked by cyclops in AW. That is most likely their basis for the "highly effective" data.

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Muncel

How did Kabam come up with that list of champions that seem mediocre overall? Who is using Void or Sentry in AW or AQ -- they've been available for less than two weeks and have an established track record with empirical data? I feel like I'm playing a different game than everyone else. I see a lot of Magik, Crossbones, Voodoo, Captain America, Captain Marvel, Hulk, Winter Soldier, Iceman, Archangel, Starlord used in AQ and AW. This list seems like the result of some undisclosed back-room proprietary or licensing agreements. Or is it perhaps pure marketing, with just enough to keep people interested until the next time?

LiquidButt

Captain_Amazing wrote: »

bradshaw84 wrote: »

https://youtu.be/5KbFdyBjkZA

That's hilarious. But omg the irony of Seatin complaining about chances of pulling featured champions.

Because its bad business for him...he makes money on people watching 5s Featured pulls and other similar type videos.

BossyBuilder

SpiritOfVengeance wrote: »

Seatins new video sees pretty legit. What do you think of seatins new video about this annoucement @Kabam Miike ? It seems pretty accurate.

Agree. that's pretty damn accurate.
Why do you not listen and not learn. And your "metrics" are ludicrous. People are using your highly "effective" champs out of necessity because that's all they've been able to pull and that's all they've been able to afford to go after. All your doing is compounding the problem.

That's like saying "well clearly the potato famine proved that the Irish sure do like potatoes."

LiquidButt

Muncel wrote: »

How did Kabam come up with that list of champions that seem mediocre overall? Who is using Void or Sentry in AW or AQ -- they've been available for less than two weeks and have an established track record with empirical data? I feel like I'm playing a different game than everyone else. I see a lot of Voodoo, Captain America, Captain Marvel, Hulk, Winter Soldier, Iceman, Archangel, Starlord used in AQ and AW. This list seems like the result of some undisclosed back-room proprietary or licensing agreements. Or is it perhaps pure marketing, with just enough to keep people interested until the next time?

Not defending Kabam here but did you read the post? Sentry and Void are in it because they are part of the 6 FEATURED champs since they are new...

FPC3

Based on the speed at which 5* shards come in, I will never spend 15k 5* shards on the new crystal. Perhaps if they changed the prices on both the Basic 5* and this new one, I'd consider it. Like if the new one was 10K, and they reduced the cost of the Basic to 7500 shards or something, but 15k for that? No thanks.

Muncel

LiquidButt wrote: »

Muncel wrote: »

How did Kabam come up with that list of champions that seem mediocre overall? Who is using Void or Sentry in AW or AQ -- they've been available for less than two weeks and have an established track record with empirical data? I feel like I'm playing a different game than everyone else. I see a lot of Voodoo, Captain America, Captain Marvel, Hulk, Winter Soldier, Iceman, Archangel, Starlord used in AQ and AW. This list seems like the result of some undisclosed back-room proprietary or licensing agreements. Or is it perhaps pure marketing, with just enough to keep people interested until the next time?

Not defending Kabam here but did you read the post? Sentry and Void are in it because they are part of the 6 FEATURED champs since they are new...

So remove those and my point still stands.

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Muncel

How did Kabam come up with that list of champions that seem mediocre overall? I feel like I'm playing a different game than everyone else. I see a lot of Voodoo, Captain America, Captain Marvel, Hulk, Winter Soldier, Iceman, Archangel, Starlord used in AQ and AW. This list seems like the result of some undisclosed back-room proprietary or licensing agreements. Or is it perhaps pure marketing, with just enough to keep people interested until the next time?

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SpiritOfVengeance

You guys reading and editing our comments does this mean you won't go ahead with this terrible idea?

Vdh2008

I've seen some good points magically disappear in the last few hours from this thread. That's too bad.

I was hoping that after 600 plus responses (97% against this travesty) in less than 24 hours, there would be some sort of response. Instead, they are "cleaning up" the thread by removing some valid points in places.

I will assume that this post also may be "cleaned up", so for the few of you who get to read it, good luck.

Armaganon00

This is a horrible plan.. now we will only get ****.

ddarkstarr

You know what I wish you'd do, Kabam? Keep the featured as is and introduce this new crystal at 12500 shards. That would actually be a real neat option. If you didn't like the featured and didn't want to chance the basic pool the extra 2500 shards would be worth the gamble.

ddarkstarr

SpiritOfVengeance

You see kabam so many amazing suggestions from your fans and you don't want to take back this announcement come on. It is so cool how many supporters you have yet you still do things to annoy us.
Most companies would want to know how kabam gets this many followers on their mobile game.

Sharopdhsu

Quick question. Like you have emphasized and stated. Everyone is saving up for blade. Half the people i know will have 5+ attempts at him. Considering how many people will end up with him, has kabam in any way altered the drop rate for the final blade crystal? Or is it the same as before