Defender Potency

kenadroidkenadroid Member Posts: 542 ★★★
Am I the only one who feels like the recent champs have so much defender potency that it kinda ruins the fun out of the game? It's not straight up challenging more of punishing at this point.

Photon, Onslaught have mastery shutdowns and annoying abilities that ticks your health.

Bullseye, need I explain more

Enchantress, the moment AI decides not to play with intercepts to get rid of spell, you lose a massive chunk of your health.

Serpent with 20+ defensive abilities like especially the pierce passive that'll hurt your block from his undexable sp attack.

But that's just me.

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  • Heruzu369Heruzu369 Member Posts: 139 ★★
    They definitely killed a lot of enjoyment with the game. I was literally just speaking about this cause I was dying to BLOCK damage from bullseye in war and I couldn’t have played any better lmaooo.
    Honestly between overtuned defenders, undertuned attackers, horrendous AI, all focus going to deals, lack of communication, horrible Deathless champs that take over a year to complete, lack of consistent content and rewards updates… this game been on a steady downward spiral for me. Deathless Thanos is really all I’m waiting for and he’s gonna be what makes me stay or quit this game cause the amount of grind and his price is unheard of so if he’s not the most busted champ in the game OFFENSIVELY then I’m out. Even Maestro sucks cause he only serves 1 purpose. I haven’t been happy all year. Literally just sticking it out for Thanos
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 8,062 ★★★★★
    Heruzu369 said:

    They definitely killed a lot of enjoyment with the game. I was literally just speaking about this cause I was dying to BLOCK damage from bullseye in war and I couldn’t have played any better lmaooo.
    Honestly between overtuned defenders, undertuned attackers, horrendous AI, all focus going to deals, lack of communication, horrible Deathless champs that take over a year to complete, lack of consistent content and rewards updates… this game been on a steady downward spiral for me. Deathless Thanos is really all I’m waiting for and he’s gonna be what makes me stay or quit this game cause the amount of grind and his price is unheard of so if he’s not the most busted champ in the game OFFENSIVELY then I’m out. Even Maestro sucks cause he only serves 1 purpose. I haven’t been happy all year. Literally just sticking it out for Thanos

    Maestro is a decent attacker, with triple immunities plus utility and damage
  • kenadroidkenadroid Member Posts: 542 ★★★
    Heruzu369 said:

    They definitely killed a lot of enjoyment with the game. I was literally just speaking about this cause I was dying to BLOCK damage from bullseye in war and I couldn’t have played any better lmaooo.
    Honestly between overtuned defenders, undertuned attackers, horrendous AI, all focus going to deals, lack of communication, horrible Deathless champs that take over a year to complete, lack of consistent content and rewards updates… this game been on a steady downward spiral for me. Deathless Thanos is really all I’m waiting for and he’s gonna be what makes me stay or quit this game cause the amount of grind and his price is unheard of so if he’s not the most busted champ in the game OFFENSIVELY then I’m out. Even Maestro sucks cause he only serves 1 purpose. I haven’t been happy all year. Literally just sticking it out for Thanos

    Im in the very same boat as you are, been playing the game for 10 years now. Deathless thanos is all I'm waiting for.

    Old defenders used to be challenging, not unfair. U got korg whose loophole is dealing light attacks. Or thing where you just gotta manage rock stacks. Not shoddy 3 stacks of power gain with serpent
  • Emilia90Emilia90 Member Posts: 3,479 ★★★★★
    edited October 20
    It’s nearly the end of 2024 and people are still complaining about Onslaught and Photon lmao

    Photon: Mantis, Black Cat, Stark Spidey, KP, Crossbones, Zemo, Hulkling, CGR, and lots of others nuke her so fast. She’s not hard if you know how to manage her

    Onslaught: Any champ works for him. FAM, Hulkling, Silk, Hulk, Titania, Red Guardian, Juggs, Starky. Just don’t parry him

    Enchantress: Any champ works again. The AI does suck but any good science dunks on her in a general meta

    Only one I agree with is serpent. Bullseye has a ton of counters now too

    Also @Heruzu369 if you actually played your best you wouldn’t have died. Bullseye isn’t some impossible defender, go watch some vids. Not surprised to see you complaining about some stuff though
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 8,062 ★★★★★
    Emilia90 said:

    It’s nearly the end of 2024 and people are still complaining about Onslaught and Photon lmao

    Photon: Mantis, Black Cat, Stark Spidey, KP, Crossbones, Zemo, Hulkling, CGR, and lots of others nuke her so fast. She’s not hard if you know how to manage her

    Onslaught: Any champ works for him. FAM, Hulkling, Silk, Hulk, Titania, Red Guardian, Juggs, Starky. Just don’t parry him

    Enchantress: Any champ works again. The AI does suck but any good science dunks on her in a general meta

    Only one I agree with is serpent. Bullseye has a ton of counters now too

    Also @Heruzu369 if you actually played your best you wouldn’t have died. Bullseye isn’t some impossible defender, go watch some vids. Not surprised to see you complaining about some stuff though

    And also for Onslaught, avoid using metal champs as they cannot remove neuroshocks
  • Nemesis_17Nemesis_17 Member Posts: 2,462 ★★★★★
    Out of those you mentioned only bullseye and serpent are particularly dumb, just since both of them force you to eat brunt of their dumb mechanics unless you bring a specific usually niche counter.

    With photon I can push her into pure light at strategic times, I don’t need a counter for that. With onslaught I can dash back and remove a neuroshock, I dont need a counter for that. Against enchantress I can remove her spells with anyone.

    Tf do I do against bullseye or serpent without a counter? Bullseye is gracious enough to give me 8 hits before he completely removes the ability for me to hit him and says “you must eat damage.” Serpent allows a massive 4 hits before he gains a bar of power and after a few specials thrown does as a much block damage as bullseye, while simultaneously being 3x tankier and having ridiculous power gain.

    Defenders have gotten too good, and they have far too much of an impact on every meta. When the best strategy in every bg match is to draft a defender with unavoidable damage, draft the counters to those champs, and pray your opponent doesn’t do the same, something is messed up.
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