9.5.1 path is completely bugged, cannot deal any damage.
dr2ws
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Here are the nodes:
And as you can see even with 5 debuffs, Iron Patriot is taking zero damage, this path is completely broken, I have tried with Onslaught and nothing is working, with over 10 neuroshocks.
If I’m doing something wrong do let me know.
And as you can see even with 5 debuffs, Iron Patriot is taking zero damage, this path is completely broken, I have tried with Onslaught and nothing is working, with over 10 neuroshocks.
If I’m doing something wrong do let me know.
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And if Stryfe and Beta Ray deals shock damage, but it's passive (isn't it still a debuff?) especially if it's causing damage...
Iceman's frostbite is also a negative effect, Onslaught with Neuroshock
And a Debuff is a detrimental effect that negatively impacts the champions, so if these things doesn't exist then what are they ?
That's why some champions can bypass certain abilities based on their description. Silver Centurion applies passive shock effects. So a defender could be immune to shock but S.C can still place his passives because they're different.
You're think of Damage Over Time and not necessarily debuffs. Void applies debuffs that have no detrimental effect. The degen damage comes from Voids abilities.
What ever is a debuff can be a passive as well.
I.e there are shock debuffs like dooms and there are shock passives like beta ray bill.
If the node says ‘defender needs to have a shock effect to deal damage’ then both passive and debuff work. If the node specifically stated debuff, then only a shock that is classified as a debuff work vice versa.
Read it back: you know you're wrong.
@dr2ws @DRTO @MrKillaChris
The confusion here is that debuffs and buffs are both types of Effect.
An Effect can be either Passive or Active. The word 'Active' is rarely used in-game, but you'll see it occasionally.
- An Active Effect has a border around the icon.
- A Passive Effect doesn't.
Active Effects aren't usually referred to in that way, most of the time: they're generally referred to as Buffs/Debuffs, primarily on the basis of being (mostly) positive or negative in their action.
Passive effects are not referred to in this way - they're just referred to as Passives, regardless of being helpful or harmful.
Immunities/resistances may apply either to the Effect itself (e.g. Shock or Stun immunity) or to the type of Effect.
So a champion immune to Stun is immune to both types of Stun effect. Whereas a champion immune to debuffs can still be affected by a passive stun.
Another example - Corvus takes no damage from bleed/shock debuffs; but he still takes full damage from Passive bleeds/shocks, or Instant bleeds.
If an effect is active, it just means that it is , currently, affecting a champion.
So you can say that 5 Prowess Passives are active on Sauron. Or 'There is a Bleed Passive active on Kamala'
There are Buffs, Debuffs and Passives.(The former two is often confused as 'Active')
'Active ' has no in game distinction from its general use.