Thoughts on Joaquin Torres (Falcon)?

EdisonLaw · March 15

For those who pulled him from the titan, how is he? My thoughts is that he could be a bit better. The utility is nice (bulwark, no dex buff, regen from special damage, Slow), but I think his Fury from the sp1 should be a bit more potent, like the traumas don't hit super hard even at max stacks. Thoughts?

MaxtheSilent · March 15

Enchantress counter? I don’t have him but he counters most of her defensive threats.

Cloudddey_bro · March 15

Darthbane3141 · March 15

I'd say he's the worst champ of 2025 so far.

Polygon · March 15

He at least has buff potential unlike the turds in the Titan like Red Hulk

KDoggg2017 · March 15

EdisonLaw · March 15

Polygon said:
He at least has buff potential unlike the turds in the Titan like Red Hulk

And Blade (well he’s in basic but you know what I mean)

GilbertoJunior · March 15

EdisonLaw said:
For those who pulled him from the titan, how is he? My thoughts is that he could be a bit better. The utility is nice (bulwark, no dex buff, regen from special damage, Slow), but I think his Fury from the sp1 should be a bit more potent, like the traumas don't hit super hard even at max stacks. Thoughts?

Don't know if you will see this but here a more explaneid awnser, in general his a realy good/Fun character with great ultility of easy acess ,about his damage It's normal damage and above averege, considering the way the science class have been doing in damage is understandable you think his damage is low even with the fury

I do believe they will buff his traumas and Physical Vulnerability potency and duration soo that would help for some higher damage

You are going to have a good tine with him but in general just a Utility knife with good to acceptable damage for its class, you could have got better champions but you at least have him for when he gets buffed

Polygon · March 15

EdisonLaw said:

Polygon said:
He at least has buff potential unlike the turds in the Titan like Red Hulk
And Blade (well he’s in basic but you know what I mean)

Oh i definitely know what you mean

Xleb · March 15

I think he definitely looks like a bird-human hybrid.

WednesdayLength · March 15

EdisonLaw said:
For those who pulled him from the titan, how is he? My thoughts is that he could be a bit better. The utility is nice (bulwark, no dex buff, regen from special damage, Slow), but I think his Fury from the sp1 should be a bit more potent, like the traumas don't hit super hard even at max stacks. Thoughts?

Do you have him?

WednesdayLength · March 15

Polygon said:

EdisonLaw said:

Polygon said:
He at least has buff potential unlike the turds in the Titan like Red Hulk
And Blade (well he’s in basic but you know what I mean)

Oh i definitely know what you mean

Jabari is legit good though lmao. Any match with debuffs, evade or miss and her damage goes through the roof

Polygon · March 15

WednesdayLength said:

Polygon said:

EdisonLaw said:

Polygon said:
He at least has buff potential unlike the turds in the Titan like Red Hulk
And Blade (well he’s in basic but you know what I mean)

Oh i definitely know what you mean
Jabari is legit good though lmao. Any match with debuffs, evade or miss and her damage goes through the roof

Ive never once used her after the tigra challenge cause theres always a much better option.

EdisonLaw · March 15

WednesdayLength said:

EdisonLaw said:
For those who pulled him from the titan, how is he? My thoughts is that he could be a bit better. The utility is nice (bulwark, no dex buff, regen from special damage, Slow), but I think his Fury from the sp1 should be a bit more potent, like the traumas don't hit super hard even at max stacks. Thoughts?

EdisonLaw said:
For those who pulled him from the titan, how is he? My thoughts is that he could be a bit better. The utility is nice (bulwark, no dex buff, regen from special damage, Slow), but I think his Fury from the sp1 should be a bit more potent, like the traumas don't hit super hard even at max stacks. Thoughts?
Do you have him?

I have him but not at the highest level

Herbal_Taxman · March 15

I don’t think there’s much of a chance that he will get buffed.

dr2ws · March 15

Having a dot of bleed/rupture would’ve been nice tbh.

Deacon · March 15

i'm having fun with him. was initially disappointed but then having him appear in TWO NEXUS TITANS and be forced into him well i'm not regretting it. i like him.

EdisonLaw · March 16

Herbal_Taxman said:
I don’t think there’s much of a chance that he will get buffed.

Well Patriot and Sable got buffed

Herbal_Taxman · March 16

Sab got buffed but she was literally useless. Patriot is useless and he’s still not buffed. Dude was released in July of last year.

I’m just saying, Gentle may not be perfect but he’s not an absolute joke that everyone ignored like Sable and Patriot.

WednesdayLength · March 16

EdisonLaw said:
For those who pulled him from the titan, how is he? My thoughts is that he could be a bit better. The utility is nice (bulwark, no dex buff, regen from special damage, Slow), but I think his Fury from the sp1 should be a bit more potent, like the traumas don't hit super hard even at max stacks. Thoughts?

Do you have him?

Polygon said:

WednesdayLength said:

Polygon said:

EdisonLaw said:

Polygon said:
He at least has buff potential unlike the turds in the Titan like Red Hulk
And Blade (well he’s in basic but you know what I mean)

Oh i definitely know what you mean
Jabari is legit good though lmao. Any match with debuffs, evade or miss and her damage goes through the roof
Ive never once used her after the tigra challenge cause theres always a much better option.

Then you're missing out cause she's a blast

Harryatomix · March 16

I played with him a lot, ongoing bg meta supports him so was able to take some matches in GC. My experience is with him at R2. He is an okay champ, he works well for enchantress but it still took me like 70s to take her down, Silk can do that matchup much faster than him.

Positives:

He can maintain slow almost throughout the fight, that is his strongest utility, his block profieciency and regen on special are decent.

Negatives:

His damage is not that good, in addition to that he has a very aggressive playstyle, his kit helps with that (in peak performance mode he makes opponent aggressive), this type of playstyle doesn't work for many opponents (like Dthanos or even enchantress).

His Physical Vulnerability is of very short duration of 4s, this is just not enough and can be felt when launching sps without it. His Fury from sp1 is very weak sometimes I feel like going for only sp2s even if I have max traumas. He is fine addition to science class but I expected more damage from him kinda feels like pre buff spider punk to me. Hopefully his rebalance does him justice and may he be rebalanced soon along with Patriot.

Ak47hardhitter1 · March 16

Don't have him so not fussed I heard his MId so yeah 😂

Gentsy12 · March 16

EdisonLaw said:

Herbal_Taxman said:
I don’t think there’s much of a chance that he will get buffed.
Well Patriot and Sable got buffed

Patriot hasn’t been buffed yet. They announced his buff is “coming” but then a week later changed the entire cadence of the re-balance program to only happen twice a year (excluding break glass in case of emergency, i.e., way too OP, they will never early buff way too underpowered champs). My guess is we see his buff go-live in may/June, almost a full year after his release.

WednesdayLength · March 17

Gentsy12 said:

EdisonLaw said:

Herbal_Taxman said:
I don’t think there’s much of a chance that he will get buffed.
Well Patriot and Sable got buffed
Patriot hasn’t been buffed yet. They announced his buff is “coming” but then a week later changed the entire cadence of the re-balance program to only happen twice a year (excluding break glass in case of emergency, i.e., way too OP, they will never early buff way too underpowered champs). My guess is we see his buff go-live in may/June, almost a full year after his release.

They announced he was getting buffed at the same time as the change in cadence

England73738 · March 17

Was my first titan pull so feel like I am forced to try and enjoy using him. He's one of them that grows on you the more you play him. I still don't really have his rotation down so any advice there would be useful. As above, you'd like to think he would get a re-balance so i'm looking forward to that if so.

Thoughts on Joaquin Torres (Falcon)?

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