5-Star Featured Arena Discussion Thread

Summoners!

The influence of the Grandmaster continues to twist and grow the Battlerealm, producing new and exciting features. It’s time to introduce, the 5-Star Featured Hero Arena!

Starting with the next round of Arenas on February 15th, there will be a new 5-Star Featured Hero Arena! This Arena will allow you to take newly acquired 6-Star Champions alongside your 4 and 5-Star Champions and fight for 6-Star Shards and a 5-Star Featured Hero!

This Arena will allow you to use your 4-Star, 5-Star, and 6-Star Champions to compete to be one of 150 Summoners that will take home the 5-Star Featured Champion.

Let’s Breakdown the Basics

The 5-Star Featured Hero Arena will run on the same schedule as our other Featured Hero Arenas, and will be available to all Summoners at Level 40, or over! There are no Beginner or Intermediate Brackets for this Arena.

This will be your first chance to use 6-Star Champions in Arenas, so here’s what you need to know:

- 6-Star Champions have a cooldown of 12 hours, or 20 units to refresh
- A Base 6-Star Champion will award around 3x the points of a Base 5-Star Champion

The cost to look for a match in this new Arena will be 500 Gold per matchup.

Let’s Talk Milestones

A new Arena, a new set of Milestone rewards for you to collect!

Rank Rewards!

You can earn Rank Rewards after hitting the 1 million point milestone, and earn yourself some 5-Star and 6-Star Shards!

The Top Summoner for Each Arena will also take home the Arena Champion Title, which is also still available in the 4-Star Featured Hero Arena. The Title is the exact same as the one in the 4-Star Featured Hero Arena, and will stack with those. As a reminder, these are the Titles you can earn for Placing 1st in the Arena:

WARBOUND: Earned by placing 1st in a 4-Star or 5 Star Featured Hero Arena once.
DESTROYER: Earned by placing 1st in a 4-Star or 5 Star Featured Hero Arena 3 times.
LIVING WEAPON: Earned by placing 1st in a 4-Star or 5 Star Featured Hero Arena 5 times.
SUPER SOLDIER: Earned by placing 1st in a 4-Star or 5 Star Featured Hero Arena 10 times.
GOD OF WAR : Earned by placing 1st in a 4-Star or 5 Star Featured Hero Arena 25 times.
WORLD BREAKER: Earned by placing 1st in a 4-Star or 5 Star Featured Hero Arena 50 times.

Ready your roster Summoners, this all kicks off February 15th with the addition of Killmonger!

Comments

Zuko_ILC

I am constantly perplexed with how out of touch Kabam has been with new event rewards. Even the new AW is pretty much only geared towards top alliances and players, therefore leaving the rest in the dust. Granted I'm in one of the top 100 but I don't know why anyone else really bothers to play the game. Advancement is always stagnant and not enjoyable at all.

Sith_Lord

DNA3000 wrote: »

Sith_Lord wrote: »

Arena milestones should be more intriguing. You can basically get the same exact rewards from the basic arena, while only putting up 1.5m. That's 2 runs for me with my 60 R5 4 stars - 40 matches! Only difference is 1 PHC per milestone. Not like those have any good drops in them anyway.

The rank rewards should also be expanded. Top 150 in order to win the featured champ is a little bit ridiculous! Should at least be top 400, at he lowest. This arena will only be for the top players in the game, with top rosters. As @CpcBoyboy stated above, which he is 100% right about, is us top players rather spend on crystals in securing a 5* featured champ. We need something as I stated above in order to entice us in competing in this new 5* arena. All those hours of grinding are truly not worth our while...

I believe Kabam believes that the 5* featured champion itself is more than enough enticement to get people to participate in this arena, and I believe they are correct.

Sorry, disagree with you on that one, buddy. Us top players rather spend on crystals until we snag said featured champ twice, then dump a shitload of sig stones into it. The new addition of said arena is very nice, & was a long time coming, but it's not catchy for me just yet.

Vision_41

So excited for this! Thank you Kabam!

DrZola

I don’t have a major problem with the new 5* arenas. Like a lot of things in game, they are geared for a few hundred players and not the rest of the gamers. Kabam can’t actually come out and say that, however, so something has to be thrown out to the remainder of us. Whether the scores required to get the scraps will be reasonable remains to be seen.

The hype is silly, too, but it’s all part of the wink-and-a-nod routine that accompanies these type of Kabam announcements. L40ish Summoners stand about a snowball’s chance in Muspelheim of getting beyond base rank rewards if they don’t mortgage their children and prop their eyelids open for 72 consecutive hours, and even then they aren’t sniffing the top 150. There are slim chances for even the heartiest grinders (cf. Stara99) and we all know it. That’s probably in the fine print of the announcement somewhere but I didn’t read that far.

Ultimately, I’m not sure what the big uproar is all about. With the advent of 6*’s, it was inevitable, and the changes are about par for the course for a lot of things since 12.0. Kabam needs the biggest accounts to spend and play (and frankly, so do the rest of us, if we want new content and a quasi-functional game) and resource-intensive content with big rewards gets them to do just that. I know my place in the game, and I’m happy to throw in some recreational time and money to modestly improve my lot from time to time.

In the meantime, I will toss my teams of mostly sub-par 5*’s into the arena to pick up some scraps to see if it’s worth the time. If not, then it’s simply another area of the game that’s dead to me.

Dr. Zola

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DNA3000

Sith_Lord wrote: »

DNA3000 wrote: »

Sith_Lord wrote: »

Arena milestones should be more intriguing. You can basically get the same exact rewards from the basic arena, while only putting up 1.5m. That's 2 runs for me with my 60 R5 4 stars - 40 matches! Only difference is 1 PHC per milestone. Not like those have any good drops in them anyway.

The rank rewards should also be expanded. Top 150 in order to win the featured champ is a little bit ridiculous! Should at least be top 400, at he lowest. This arena will only be for the top players in the game, with top rosters. As @CpcBoyboy stated above, which he is 100% right about, is us top players rather spend on crystals in securing a 5* featured champ. We need something as I stated above in order to entice us in competing in this new 5* arena. All those hours of grinding are truly not worth our while...

I believe Kabam believes that the 5* featured champion itself is more than enough enticement to get people to participate in this arena, and I believe they are correct.

Sorry, disagree with you on that one, buddy. Us top players rather spend on crystals until we snag said featured champ twice, then dump a shitload of sig stones into it. The new addition of said arena is very nice, & was a long time coming, but it's not catchy for me just yet.

If you are correct, then that's great, because then I will be getting every 5* featured arena champ.

However, I believe the odds of that happening are vanishingly small.

DNA3000

Zuko_ILC wrote: »

I am constantly perplexed with how out of touch Kabam has been with new event rewards. Even the new AW is pretty much only geared towards top alliances and players, therefore leaving the rest in the dust. Granted I'm in one of the top 100 but I don't know why anyone else really bothers to play the game. Advancement is always stagnant and not enjoyable at all.

Everyone plays, or chooses to play a game for their own reasons, but I can tell you this as someone not a top 100 player: I play this game because I can get everything you can get, just slightly slower, and for a lot less effort. I'm fine with that: I don't need to spend money to keep up with you because the progressional curve allows me to draft behind you and still play challenging content (for me) and work my way towards the same rewards you work towards, just in a different part of the curve.

Because nothing is shut off from me, because I can play at my own pace, and because I have patience, this game works very well for me. The whales need players like me because without players like me there's no point in being a whale in a phone booth. And players like me need the whales because without the whales Kabam would have to make all that money from me, and I'd rather they not. And a game which gives the whales and the top players something shiny to chase after with their time and money that realistically speaking I have no shot at, and then gives me a shot at the shiny thing after the top players are bored with it, is a game that ultimately works and can last a long time.

I've been at the top of the food chain, and I've been at the bottom, and I'm happy where I am now. If you can be satisfied with where you are, the game works for you. If you aren't satisfied with where your time and effort places you on the food chain, the game probably doesn't work for you.

Kingsquest

Change 5 stars to get 800 people

5star shard only gived duplicate characters!!

Is it only Given 5stars the Top Gamer(5star = unit many used )?

Rather give 5 stars to 20m rewards

ESF

I don't mind this Arena, even though I won't sniff the leaderboard in it, because I honestly feel that this game is better when there is enough to do where people have to make choices.

As I have said before, I lead an alliance of developing players. None of us will be in this arena. But if it peels a few people out of the 4-star featured, great for my guys. If that pulls a few more people out of the 4-star basic, great for my guys.

There are people in this game -- I am one of them -- who just have horrific luck with crystals and pulls. Other people are pulling 5-star Medusas in one shot or two shots, I am pulling Groots and She-Hulks.

So for people like me/us, we have to grind the secondary market. We put in the work, but it definitely helps my alliance when more people pull out of the stuff for the content they have already mastered that my guys haven't.

DNA3000

BitterSteel wrote: »

DNA3000 wrote: »

Sith_Lord wrote: »

Arena milestones should be more intriguing. You can basically get the same exact rewards from the basic arena, while only putting up 1.5m. That's 2 runs for me with my 60 R5 4 stars - 40 matches! Only difference is 1 PHC per milestone. Not like those have any good drops in them anyway.

The rank rewards should also be expanded. Top 150 in order to win the featured champ is a little bit ridiculous! Should at least be top 400, at he lowest. This arena will only be for the top players in the game, with top rosters. As @CpcBoyboy stated above, which he is 100% right about, is us top players rather spend on crystals in securing a 5* featured champ. We need something as I stated above in order to entice us in competing in this new 5* arena. All those hours of grinding are truly not worth our while...

I believe Kabam believes that the 5* featured champion itself is more than enough enticement to get people to participate in this arena, and I believe they are correct.

I disagree and I’m sure many others will too. The only enticement I feel is to get 1 million for the lowest rank rewards.

Glad to hear it. I honestly wish more people agreed with you. Now that I've done the analysis of past scoring, I now believe I should take a shot at the 10% rank reward. Its fifty-fifty on whether it is in general reach for me, but the more people who think it isn't worth going after, the better those odds become.

Kabam are missing a trick here.

Say for example the milestones were pretty awesome, like 100 5* shards and 25 6* shards every alternate million points up to 10 million. That’s 500 5* shards and 125 6* shards, which twice a week leads to a hefty sum. Now, you already have the heavy grinders going for the rank rewards and these milestones don’t make a difference to them because they’re doing it anyway. But now you have your average player grinding out the milestones, and quite honestly I would grind out as much as I possibly could for it, quite possibly spending units to refresh if I couldn’t get it myself. And where people spend units, people spend money on units.

I don't think they are missing a trick. I think you're missing a trick every game developer uses. No reward system is a thing, it is a process. Everything you do today must have a logical next thing you do tomorrow. Say the rewards were awesome. Do they become astronomical tomorrow? Do they become infinite next week? You can always crank up. You cannot crank down. Everything starts low. No game company has ever been faulted for adjusting rewards upward. The more room you leave at the top, the more latitude you have to do that later. You can think that is just smart design, or you can think it is manipulating the player base, but either way, it is why the rewards are not going to start off immediately "pretty awesome."

And if you think slow playing the rewards this way costs them money, from my admittedly limited experience with such things, in the long run it generally doesn't. It costs short term revenue for long term retention which always makes more money.

DJRipster

5-Star arenas are a great addition, and it will be fun allowing the community to compete to improve their rosters... However the milestones leading up to these rank rewards make no sense...

The contest is supposed to be evolving, and wee in the process of building up our 6-star rosters... At this level popping PHCs for 2-stars makes zero sense... especially given that they are spread over 12mil points

I understand the logic of not adding GMCs, but how about adding Ultimate crystals at least as milestones, you can start off with PHCs, progress to 3-star crystals and offer at least a couple of Ultimate crystals as milestone rewards

At this point its really important that Kabam understand how far the contest has evolved, and allow players who are being competitive to have some form of progress

Corpsman

Wow phcs for milestone in 5* arena. Epic fail game team. Really outdid yourself here.

Mkdemaria

I would like to see Grand Master Crystals for milestones instead of Premium Hero Crystals since we are using 4*, 5*, and 6* Champions. When can we expect to see a basic 5* arena?

Kingsquest

Instead of milestone rewards of up to 12m, you should give a feature champ as the reward for 20m. Or if not then the top 800 should receive the feature champ.

DNA3000

BitterSteel wrote: »

DNA3000 wrote: »

BitterSteel wrote: »

DNA3000 wrote: »

Sith_Lord wrote: »

Arena milestones should be more intriguing. You can basically get the same exact rewards from the basic arena, while only putting up 1.5m. That's 2 runs for me with my 60 R5 4 stars - 40 matches! Only difference is 1 PHC per milestone. Not like those have any good drops in them anyway.

The rank rewards should also be expanded. Top 150 in order to win the featured champ is a little bit ridiculous! Should at least be top 400, at he lowest. This arena will only be for the top players in the game, with top rosters. As @CpcBoyboy stated above, which he is 100% right about, is us top players rather spend on crystals in securing a 5* featured champ. We need something as I stated above in order to entice us in competing in this new 5* arena. All those hours of grinding are truly not worth our while...

I believe Kabam believes that the 5* featured champion itself is more than enough enticement to get people to participate in this arena, and I believe they are correct.

I disagree and I’m sure many others will too. The only enticement I feel is to get 1 million for the lowest rank rewards.

Glad to hear it. I honestly wish more people agreed with you. Now that I've done the analysis of past scoring, I now believe I should take a shot at the 10% rank reward. Its fifty-fifty on whether it is in general reach for me, but the more people who think it isn't worth going after, the better those odds become.

Kabam are missing a trick here.

Say for example the milestones were pretty awesome, like 100 5* shards and 25 6* shards every alternate million points up to 10 million. That’s 500 5* shards and 125 6* shards, which twice a week leads to a hefty sum. Now, you already have the heavy grinders going for the rank rewards and these milestones don’t make a difference to them because they’re doing it anyway. But now you have your average player grinding out the milestones, and quite honestly I would grind out as much as I possibly could for it, quite possibly spending units to refresh if I couldn’t get it myself. And where people spend units, people spend money on units.

I don't think they are missing a trick. I think you're missing a trick every game developer uses. No reward system is a thing, it is a process. Everything you do today must have a logical next thing you do tomorrow. Say the rewards were awesome. Do they become astronomical tomorrow? Do they become infinite next week? You can always crank up. You cannot crank down. Everything starts low. No game company has ever been faulted for adjusting rewards upward. The more room you leave at the top, the more latitude you have to do that later. You can think that is just smart design, or you can think it is manipulating the player base, but either way, it is why the rewards are not going to start off immediately "pretty awesome."

And if you think slow playing the rewards this way costs them money, from my admittedly limited experience with such things, in the long run it generally doesn't. It costs short term revenue for long term retention which always makes more money.

So why do the rank rewards start high and the milestones start low? Almost like in general the rank rewards benefit the whales and the milestones benefit the average player, so the rank rewards here start pretty awesome, and the milestones start pretty ****.

The rank rewards are higher than the milestone rewards because the rank rewards are limited and the milestone ones are not. All other things being equal, it is as simple as that.

You'll find in many progressional games with no well-developed end game (and even in some that have one) that PvP becomes the end game gateway to the top tier rewards. That's because PvP is difficulty auto-tuning (since the players themselves are the difficulty, the playerbase cannot outlevel the difficulty) and because the nature of competitive rewards allows the developers to limit the amount of the top tier rewards that enter circulation, making it a quick and easy end game proxy.

In theory, everyone could get the milestone rewards. As a practical matter they can't, but you cannot predict with certainty how fast the playerbase will advance and how fast their scoring potential will rise. But no matter how fast the playerbase progresses and how powerful the players get, only so many players will get the ranked rewards, even the percentage ones are proportionately limited in a way that makes it easier to make them high value.

In any case, the highest rank rewards aren't being designed to be cranked up by much in the future, because in general the top tier rewards rarely need to be. It is the lower tier rewards that are changed the most when game devs adjust their reward curves. When you see devs muck with the top tier rewards, like say radically increasing the amount of 5* shards we can get, expect that to not be the top tier reward for much longer.

Huonuo

It's so typical Kabam, bring something new but so out of touch with current game landscape!! The milestones for all arenas need a complete overhaul. For the age of 6*s giving PHC shards is a slap of player's faces. We are the one playing spending time money for keep you afloat. Treat us with some dignity and give us some more suiting milestones

SenJumper

@Kabam Miike
There is an error in the information contained in the fourth line of the message sent to the game, they traded the hero out of 5 for a 6 out of 6 as a reward.

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GroundedWisdom

Huonuo wrote: »

It's so typical Kabam, bring something new but so out of touch with current game landscape!! The milestones for all arenas need a complete overhaul. For the age of 6*s giving PHC shards is a slap of player's faces. We are the one playing spending time money for keep you afloat. Treat us with some dignity and give us some more suiting milestones

What do you suggest that wouldn't throw the other Arenas aside? 3* Shards? 4*? 5*? GMC Shards? The Milestones are consistent across all Arenas for a reason. They're scaled more the higher you go, but the Milestones are not a focus of the Arena. It's open to anyone Level 40 and over.

RawInstinct

I think the milestones should have some form of 4 star shards no PC shards we are talking about a 5 star arena where the likely reward is a 2 star from a PC.

The game and most of its community certainly most of the community that will contest this arena have long outgrown PC shards im not saying it needs to be an enourmous amount of 4 star shards but at least give something that is useful in the game

Zeke_the_Xbot

Why wasn't this just made an uncollected arena?
Why are PHC shards a reward at all in a 5* arena?
Why doesn't Kabam draft these ideas and bounce them off the player base first before committing to them wholeheartedly (think champion beta test)?
This is such an out of touch looking to as usual milk the whales. If you are free to play and hoping to get that top 150 good luck and have fun not sleeping ever.

Zeke_the_Xbot

Also the best way to show Kabam how much we dislike this new arena is no one play in it at all (unlikely), but could also go the route of no one go much higher than bare minimum rank score and let the few points differential determine the ranks(also unlikely) instead of grinding profusely for 3 days and spending absorbent amount of units to hit that top 150 rank. End of the day the player base has the power to set cutoffs low or raise them high

bloodyCain

Time to retire everyone

bloodyCain

There will be a huge gap between most players and top 150 in 5* featured arena. 4* is getting outdated unless you wanna play casually in AQ and AW

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Badrose

Only 150 players around the world can get the Champion losing their life while trying? LMAO! Crazy news!

Mmx1991

bloodyCain wrote: »

Time to retire everyone

These changes are making me question whether it's worth staying or not.

To me, this arena doesn't represent the chance to improve a roster through more shards but it represents the final nail in the coffin of our old champs. The goal posts are now in their resting place until the next change who knows when.

The 6* announcement gave us an expiry date, and this the new arena basically sealed the deal and the hamster wheels continues.

I just wish we had the illusion of progress. Re-labeling champs with a higher star is just too obvious for me.

Avi0709

Hi @Kabam Miike, I was waiting for this arena for a long time but not happy with it even with a roaster of total 280 heroes that include 27 5* & around 106 4*. 4* arena doesnt makes much sense to me either with the amount of heroes I have. The highest cut off should be around 90m coz 120m is gonna take forever. I humbly request you to please make it atleast chasable for us “average” players. I’m really not looking to get a featured 5* from this arena but the other shards should be achievable atleast. Thanks.

SuperChrona

When will we see an update to the catalyst arenas. There are really in a need to get an update in rewards and milestones? ;ight be close to the thing in the game that has the oldest milestone and ranked rewards. Every other part of the game has been updated besides this.

Magrailothos

I'm a mid-tier player with no intention of going anywhere near this arena; and even I think the rewards are a bit rubbish.

For the people playing, I doubt PHCs or attends boosts are worth anything.

It didn't occur to you to throw some 3* or 4* shards in there? Some T4CC shard crystals?

Still, hopefully it will lower the cutoffs in the 4* arenas...

Neroa65

Lol. 12 million as a final milestone is bonkers. And for 135 units. Come on Kabam.

. Like what? Just Just what?

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It should be something around 7 or 8 million or so. Sometimes we don't go for rank rewards yunno just the milestones. And when someone goes for milestones in a specific arena, it generally means a relaxed, slow and smooth grinding. But in this case, just to cover the milestones alone, you need to grind like hell.

. I'd have no problems with the 12 million milestones if it totaled to about say 500 - 900 units and one or two GM crystals. But we're getting prems and 135 units.. Just just what?

Me I generally like to grind all three champion arenas for the units. It's not very difficult with my roster but add this 12m milestones mayhem to the mix and I might as well kiss the other three arenas bye bye.

Kabam please reduce the milestone score or increase the milestone rewards. Rank rewards are okay.