Why Direct Damage is bad for game and strategy

PlatypusPlatypus Member Posts: 60 ★
edited June 2017 in Suggestions and Requests
How many ways do we have to reduce damage?

Synergy like Armor, Perfect block.
Heros that rely on being relevant by defensive buffs. Perfect Block heroes/Armor heros/Physical Resistance, Regeneration.
Skills that improve the defense.

I have a team of 24% armor, 24% perfect block , heros with more high healths and resistance. Only it does not matter anymore in this game because the content is designed by taking half of your life directly.

Back in the days . If you wanted to beat ROL you brought perfect block synergy and healers. (one heal blocker)

To beat RTL . You can bring counters to Safeguard, Power Gain , Healing or Adjust you masteries.

Even though we had to have specific heroes we had a solution to a problem.

There is a 21000 Iceman (regular hero with regular node buffs) that you have to beat several times to explore Chapter 2 .

Who counters his Direct damage?

Crossbones ? Skill hero , very low chance to counter do to class disadvantage.
Agent Venom ? Skill hero
Groot? 50% reduced buff duration , but he is so trash that you might as well use any other hero.

Where are reliable counters? You can't have heroes like Iceman and Magic that basically ignore the ***** strategy in this game.

This is god awful Content Kabam . Dodge was manageble, Healing had a counter, Taking damage directly at a rate of 4x of Normal Degeneration is complete BS. You know it and you are abusing it.


Lets make MCOC a game of counters and strategy again. Not pay 1500 units to Kill Labyrinth Magic , not pay 2000 Units to 100% explore Chapter 2 (only because you have to kill 13000 iceman several times and than 21000 iceman couple times)


Comments

  • Jimmy_Utah83Jimmy_Utah83 Member Posts: 246 ★
    edited June 2017
    Role reversal so AV and CB have the advantage if you are referring to 5.2.2. I took him down w/ MK the cold snap damage isn't that bad.
  • PlatypusPlatypus Member Posts: 60 ★
    edited June 2017
    Jimmy_Utah83 wrote: »
    Role reversal so AV and CB have the advantage

    Was there a reversal in Monthly Event? Is there a reliable counter for Magic in Labirith, tell it to people who spend 1500+ units on her .Not the first place where Kabam uses Iceman and Magic .

    Crossbones has about 20% to shrug it off, you still have about 70% of failure with advantage. How many heros in this game can do it properly ?

    70% to Lose half of your health on one of the best case scenario matchups, with node reversal advantage.
  • PlatypusPlatypus Member Posts: 60 ★
    edited June 2017
    Make me a video of you taking out 21000 Iceman 3 times and 13000 Iceman 5 times, I'll count with you how many revives it takes
  • CoatHang3rCoatHang3r Member Posts: 4,965 ★★★★★
    edited June 2017
    Er anyways, well played forums.

    There are lots of counters and IM and Magik are not direct damage and can be mitigated or ignored with many champions and methods.
  • PlatypusPlatypus Member Posts: 60 ★
    edited June 2017
    CoatHang3r wrote: »
    Direct damage has an in game definition which doesn't apply to the abilites you listed. Direct damage ingores all damage reduction modifiers.

    Cold snap is actually energy damage which is mitigated by armor and resistances. It can also be shrugged off by select characters or not even applied due to ability reductions like an awakened CW's armor ups.

    You can counter/mitigate cold snap with
    JF
    Hyperion
    DS
    Loki
    Awakened CB but if he doesn't shrug it off he actually has negative energy resist so it's a gamble
    AV
    CW
    Rogue
    Groot
    Any regen champion
    Others not listed.


    If you want a real PITA the 5.2.5 evasion path with masochism, it's on the right side. It includes AM, SMSym, MM, ultron, NC, SM.



    Make a Video taking out 21000 Iceman 3 times with any of those "Coutners" We will see how well they counter him

    Your Wallet will mitigate it

  • CoatHang3rCoatHang3r Member Posts: 4,965 ★★★★★
    No need for a video or even to bring any of those champions. They can be taken down without having a counter.
  • PlatypusPlatypus Member Posts: 60 ★
    No the defninition is Degeneration not direct damage . Direct damage is something that goes to my face and I cannot stop it by skill .

    I have used Ultron agaist 21000 Iceman before , it is a horrible experience considering that he is one of the better heros agaist him .
  • Vex_LordVex_Lord Member Posts: 10 ★
    If it's 5.2.2 you're still talking about the iceman it's a losing battle shift to just magik. That iceman killed 2 of my champs total and I already 100% explored the map so he clearly was weakened a great deal compared to the version of him I'm the master event quest a few months back. But I do agree the limbo damage from magik is a total bs moneygrab.
  • furymachine84furymachine84 Member Posts: 80 ★
    Anyone who lowers his offensive ability accuracy, Civil Warrior, Quake, Psylocke, etc. Anyone who shrugs off/counters/high energy resist/nullifies... Rogue, Groot, King Groot, DS, Hyperion, Karnak, etc...
    But now... Well... All the moaning & complaining has gotten you guys a special champ just for Iceman... Mephisto!! Kabam should've just said... Sorry, not sorry. Mephisto is just for those who can't tough it out. He is specifically immune to Iceman's abilities. And screw everyone who worked hard to get 4 & 5 star versions of Iceman.
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