**Mastery Loadouts**
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
“just DON’T do modok’s lab” advice kinda misses the problem
HawkFanDanTheMan
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Let’s just say kabam decides to nerf gwenpool and hyperion the way they did with dr strange, and you depend heavily on those two to get you through tough content. How would you feel about that nerf? So you suggest something has to be done about it cuz it’s a low move, but someone tells you “just CHOOSE not to use them”? See how hearing someone say that feels like rubbing salt in the wound?
The problem with this event is that people felt like the opportunity to get rewards was taken away from them due to the increased difficulty which felt a bit “unfair”. Yes only a few people are affected, and yes they have the option NOT to do the event or to stop playing the game altogether, but that is simply telling ppl to live with the “unfairness” instead of providing a solution that addresses it. Simply ACKNOWLEDGING the unfortunate nature of the increased difficulty is better than giving the “just don’t do the event” advice, even though it’s a valid option and that the person might mean well by saying it.
I put “unfair” in quotes because that’s subjective. End game players and newbies won’t be able to empathize with this and might even deny the increase in difficulty being a “problem” since it isn’t one to them and that’s completely fine, but please don’t INTENTIONALLY invalidate the frustration people are experiencing from the increased difficulty. That’s just beating a dead horse.
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That's exactly what the OP is talking about. Who says the issue is with them? Based on the fact that some have no trouble at all? You can find people who have no trouble at any area of the game. The point they're trying to make is these comments offer nothing helpful and just undermine someone's concerns.
there are instances where a champ you dont like on a node that, even after rerolling a few times just sucks, but if you cant handle that one, opt out and go in the next time.
sure you miss some 5* shards, but missing those isnt the end of the world.
i had instances it was faceroll, and i had a few i made mistakes or got realy nasty rolls on champs i could not reroll even by spending a few dice.
so what, its not like uncollected you better 100% or miss out on a lot of stuff, you miss out on a few shards, but getting challenged actualy improves your play.
Who determines what concerns are valid or not? Just because someone doesn't find it hard doesn't mean the concerns aren't valid. People may play by themselves, but that doesn't mean the game centres around them. There are many other people playing.
Every class has an attention seeking clown that wants everyone to pay attention to them and every class has the person who tries to help his classmates do better. This comment community is no different.
We have people who post videos, give descriptions on how to accomplish things and we have people who say, I’m great and your not (Most of whom have been blessed by the RNG gods), as if tap tap swipe swipe and inducing a computer AI to react is a skill like hitting a baseball, shooting a basketball or throwing a football. If this is you do some self reflecting on what is important in life for you.
Let’s all enjoy playing the game and as a community and help all players get better. Try to show people your best side.
Why is it that because you could complete it last time, you feel like kabam owes it to you to make it so you can complete it this time? I don’t understand why every time a piece of content comes out, someone moans that they could complete the last one so “I want to be able to complete this one too!”. It’s such a ridiculous sentiment. Take each piece of content as it comes and you’ll be less disappointed. What’s happening here is similar to the Actor challenges we have. “Well I could complete Ming-Na’s and Coulson’s challenge, so Kabam owe it to me to let me be able to complete Chloe’s warriors!”
The nerf example you’ve used here OP, is frankly quite misplaced. A nerf is a completely different situation than content. You’re comparing apples and oranges. You keep mentioning unfairness, and although you’ve admitted it’s subjective, I don’t think there is any unfairness and I do not believe it’s wholly subjective. Here’s why; if someone believes something that does not make them right about it. If I believe it’s unfair for kabam to make health potions heal 250 health instead of 10% of health, then that is unfair to me but that does not make it an unfair thing for kabam to do. If I believe it’s unfair for kabam to make Blade bleed on parry, then that’s unfair to me but that does not make it an unfair thing for kabam to do.
If I think it’s unfair for kabam to make the labs harder, then that’s unfair on me, but it isn’t an unfair thing for kabam to do. That’s why fairness isn’t wholly subjective, it’s subjective for me to think something is unfair, but from a wider perspective, the fairness of a kabam decision is objective.
15/20 minutes per day, that's a lot of time for a measly 200 shards man.
Your point centers around this idea of entitlement. Do I have to be at least a little bit entitled to make a claim that kabam raising the difficulty was unfair? Yes I do, but being at least a little bit entitled is necessary for any self respecting person because they have to know what they’re worth and what they deserve. Even then, to disqualify a person’s claim just because they are entitled is a fallacy in of itself. The correctness of a claim should be based on the points a person brings up, not the characteristics of said person.
With that said, I’m not saying kabam should revolve around my needs and tailor the events to my convenience. Please don’t straw man my argument by blowing it out of proportion. What I am saying, and why I, along with a lot of others are frustrated, is because the difficulty was increased from what it has been. There are ppl who could expect 10k shards a month from events, but due to the increase in difficulty, they would struggle to get 2k or exhaust their resources doing so. Fact is that Kabam doesn’t owe anyone anything, but in games such as these, there are expectations and unspoken contracts with players that when broken, WILL result in backlash. Things such as character nerfs, increased costs, maintenance during non-maintenance hours, etc. Increasing the difficulty is one such expectation that was broken by it’s unannounced and unprecedented presentation.
This broken trust is the basis of the validity of the frustration that you’re trying so hard to paint as “a ridiculous sentiment.” That expectation of wanting to complete this months event is not so ridiculous when all the months before have been pretty consistent in its difficulty, with this event being significantly harder and thereby making it more exclusive. (harder not because of rewards since it’s the same as past months, but harder for no other reason than kabam wanting it to)
I’m not comparing the examples in their “in game” purpose, but in how they make the player FEEL. In both cases, the player will feel a sense that they’ve been betrayed, rightfully so. In both the Dr. Strange nerf and this increased difficulty for the same rewards as old events, an expectation was broken along with the implied trust that came with that.
Even apples and oranges are similar in that both taste sour unripened
You have two separate claims here. You’re saying that fairness is objective and that believing something doesn’t make that belief correct. You’re using the second one to support the first one which makes no sense. Are you saying I’m wrong in believing kabam is being unfair simply because it’s a belief and beliefs aren’t always right? This is a fallacious line of logic.
Whether a person is right depends why they believe what they do. If there is sound logic and reason that back their beliefs, why wouldn’t they be right? I believe kabam is being unfair because their past events for the same amount of rewards have all had similar difficulty. It’s only expected this event will be the same, but it’s not. The difficulty is significantly greater. It broke people’s expectations and people have a valid frustration and claim that something is unfair.
You’re also saying fairness is not not up for subjective interpretation? I disagree. Yes the only rules for kabam is that there are no rules and that they can make the rules as they go. By playing their game, you acknowledge that everything they do is fair. But just because something is fair by the book doesn’t make it FEEL fair on the basis of expectation and trust that was established, and it is up to subjective interpretation whether this type of trust has been broken, making kabam subjectively unfair. This unprecedented increase in difficulty definitely does not feel fair to some players and just because kabam has free reign to do what they want with the game doesn’t illegitimize the frustration people are experiencing.
Tl;dr people are still right in feeling frustrated and betrayed (thus labeling kabam unfair) by the unprecedented increase in the event difficulty. Kabam doesn’t have to honor the expectations they have has set since they make the rules, but people are still justified in their frustration
@LocoMotives they’re not the same in their purpose in game, but that’s not what i’m comparing them by. I’m comparing them by how they make the player feel.
In both cases the (unfair nerfs and unfair increasing of difficulty) makes the player feel like they got the short end of the stick
I don't understand why people don't want content to strive too.
I can allow ai to do normal and medium difficulty with ease but the next level hard (which has the crystals and catalysts I need) is beyond my current position. "yes" I could do this if i put alot of units in for revives and health pots but the small rewards would not be worth it. So my point from the lower end of the spectrum is that there is a massive disparity in difficulty in the lower end of this event. This has nothing to do with skill or anything else and yes I do the lower modes for the free stuff but it's not helping me progress in the game.
500 shards per day, man.
It’s only 100 if you can only do the Hard level which adds up to 3k shards for the month and about 1/2 of a T4B. If you can do both Hard and Expert it’s 15k Shards 1/2 T2A and about I think a full T4B.
The event sucks if you can’t do the expert level, which is why people who are between the two levels are complaining.
Also, you can always practice on the expert difficulty to increase your skills for playing around certain nodes for no energy. Maybe by the end you can complete expert more easily than you can now.
I for one can do it most of the time but havnt always been able to... yeah i get dissapointed when havnt... but i feel that it means i need to get better or that yeah maybe i lucked out and got bad champnwith bad buffs but hey unfortunately that is rng and the nature of an event like this is rng. Just gotta accept the fact that not everyone can always do everything.
I run a team of 4/40s so I can beat expert maybe 20% of the time, and hard 100%. Expert has taught me a lot about how to deal with certain nodes, what teams to bring in blind, how to intercept more reliably, etc.
Sure it’s frustrating, especially when my re-rolls are reset and I promptly get wrecked by thorns+biohazard (*cough*), but at the end of the day it’s a welcome challenge that doesn’t have AW-level stakes on it.
If you’re upset about not getting free 5* shards, challenge yourself to unlock the other ways to earn them - like joining a solid alliance and going Uncollected.
I beat.master mode with a r4 sw and r4 starlord no items used..
If.you think.its hard you suck
There is NO problem!
If you can’t manage to get the 5* shards just take the 4* shards.
Things can’t be made easy for all type of player otherwise it will be full of 1* champs being one popped in 2 seconds.
It’s supposed to be challenging, what do people not understand... stop just making an issue because some fights are tricky.
LOL. I'm not even going to comment on the ease of using those Champs.
That's an incredibly limited and ignorant perspective to have. Anyone who thinks it's hard sucks? Is that your stance? Sorry to break it to you, but skilled people still have an issue with the amount it's been amped up. Thanks for your overview, though. Not sure that it contributes much besides putting people down.
Dude, what’s your problem?! It’s SUPPOSED to be HARD!!!!
Even I'm confused now so explain it ur arguing that content like this shouldn't be as difficult as it is correct?