“just DON’T do modok’s lab” advice kinda misses the problem

Let’s just say kabam decides to nerf gwenpool and hyperion the way they did with dr strange, and you depend heavily on those two to get you through tough content. How would you feel about that nerf? So you suggest something has to be done about it cuz it’s a low move, but someone tells you “just CHOOSE not to use them”? See how hearing someone say that feels like rubbing salt in the wound?

The problem with this event is that people felt like the opportunity to get rewards was taken away from them due to the increased difficulty which felt a bit “unfair”. Yes only a few people are affected, and yes they have the option NOT to do the event or to stop playing the game altogether, but that is simply telling ppl to live with the “unfairness” instead of providing a solution that addresses it. Simply ACKNOWLEDGING the unfortunate nature of the increased difficulty is better than giving the “just don’t do the event” advice, even though it’s a valid option and that the person might mean well by saying it.

I put “unfair” in quotes because that’s subjective. End game players and newbies won’t be able to empathize with this and might even deny the increase in difficulty being a “problem” since it isn’t one to them and that’s completely fine, but please don’t INTENTIONALLY invalidate the frustration people are experiencing from the increased difficulty. That’s just beating a dead horse.

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Kynny

ArmandStar wrote: »

my bad, my post was supposed to say "4* shards"

the "hard" map is definitely harder than last time and i can see many players failing it and/or needing revives to clear it, and out of the people needing revives to clear it, i can see many choosing not to

Same thing 3 star makes 4 star makes 5 star makes 6 star

Progression

GroundedWisdom

BitterSteel wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

BitterSteel wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Kynny wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

You can't tell others that their thoughts and feelings aren't valid based on your own thoughts and feelings. Each person is speaking from their own experience.

Isnt.that exactly what you are doing to us ? We're speaking from experience and your telling us our thoughts and feelings arent.valid here..

Hypocrisy

I'm not the one going out of my way to comment against people having an issue.

I have an issue with people saying the event is too hard or the rewards aren’t worth it. So you are going out of the way to comment against me having an issue. But that’s ok because you’re right?

Okay, now you're just making Word Soup. Let people speak for themslves instead of jumping into every Thread on the subject and telling them they're wrong. If people are having a hard time, let them speak their peace. All it does is add insult to injury.

But that’s all you do. You just tell people they’re wrong as well.

No. That's not all I do. It's clear you're looking for an argument and I'm not interested. Sorry.

ThePinkGhost

zero7 wrote: »

DaMunk wrote: »

Snowflake alert!

so true, in today’s world of participation trophies, easy and normal should be called hard and expert. and if there is a platinum or gold or diamond or whatever level is the top, it shouldn’t exist because not everyone will be able to complete it. we should accommodate for everyone so nobody feels left behind. socialism anyone?

You’re still ignoring the issue... There has to be a reason why something is hard. If this modok expert tier had better rewards to match the effort and time you had to put in, then by all means make it difficult! I didn’t complain once completing the wakandan challenge because I knew the level of difficulty matched the rewards you get for completing it.

Here is the problem, last month and the months before, ppl could get the same rewards for half the work and at 25k difficulty. But this month, those same ppl struggle to get those same rewards due to increased difficulty, WHY INCREASE THE DIFFICULTY?? The rewards aren’t any better so why? Just so the top 1% get the benefits?

The level of challenge in each expert modok path is on par with a boss rush challenge. Except in a boss rush, you get 3k shards and an awakening gem + other stuff. What does completing expert get you? some 200 shards and a few t2 fragments?? how is that fair for ppl accustomed to progressing via the monthly events? that scaling is waaaay off and because of that, lower level players that want to progress and who jave used the event to progress in the past months can’t anymore.

Socialism is stupid... ppl arent arguing to make things easier and to hand out rewards. People are simply arguing NOT to make things UNNECESSARILY difficult! BUT if you decide to do that, it’s 100% fine GRANTED there’s a GOOD reason other than “because I can” which is the kinda move kabam pulled.

BitterSteel

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

BitterSteel wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Kynny wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

You can't tell others that their thoughts and feelings aren't valid based on your own thoughts and feelings. Each person is speaking from their own experience.

Isnt.that exactly what you are doing to us ? We're speaking from experience and your telling us our thoughts and feelings arent.valid here..

Hypocrisy

I'm not the one going out of my way to comment against people having an issue.

I have an issue with people saying the event is too hard or the rewards aren’t worth it. So you are going out of the way to comment against me having an issue. But that’s ok because you’re right?

Okay, now you're just making Word Soup. Let people speak for themslves instead of jumping into every Thread on the subject and telling them they're wrong. If people are having a hard time, let them speak their peace. All it does is add insult to injury.

But that’s all you do. You just tell people they’re wrong as well.

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

BitterSteel wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

BitterSteel wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Kynny wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

You can't tell others that their thoughts and feelings aren't valid based on your own thoughts and feelings. Each person is speaking from their own experience.

Isnt.that exactly what you are doing to us ? We're speaking from experience and your telling us our thoughts and feelings arent.valid here..

Hypocrisy

I'm not the one going out of my way to comment against people having an issue.

I have an issue with people saying the event is too hard or the rewards aren’t worth it. So you are going out of the way to comment against me having an issue. But that’s ok because you’re right?

Okay, now you're just making Word Soup. Let people speak for themslves instead of jumping into every Thread on the subject and telling them they're wrong. If people are having a hard time, let them speak their peace. All it does is add insult to injury.

But that’s all you do. You just tell people they’re wrong as well.

No. That's not all I do. It's clear you're looking for an argument and I'm not interested. Sorry.

I’d say you’re fairly good at looking for your own arguments. Very well, I’ve had enough of this conversation with a hypocrite.

EvilEmpire

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

EvilEmpire wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

If you had a system where people higher up made larger gains than those below them, no one would grow, and the top would secure its position infinitely. I can see how that would seem appealing, but it would be an unfair system. Unfortunately, they're not the only ones playing, and everyone matters. The ones that need the Resources from these Events the most are in a lower demographic.

No majority of the time higher tier players are heavily restricted to the amount of progress they can make. This appears to be one of the rarer occasions where we get extra that the middle tier is having difficulty collecting.

The same can be said of most games. Progression slows the higher you go. Otherwise no one would have an opportunity to advance in positions. With these Events, they're a chance for people to gain some progression. It should be challenging, no doubt. It needs to be scaled reasonably as well. There's a reason that's rare. If you're going to argue that the Top Tier needs the Rewards more than those in the middle, I don't know what to say. Let's face it. Some people like to see others struggle.

The struggles are what makes the game fun isn’t it ? I had a rough time with the modok quests the first time around, had to buy all the re roll cubes I could get used revives even spent units on revives occasionally. I’m very stingy with units and have played the game patiently when it was prudent. When 5.4 came out I was ready to go, got my T5Bs earned a ton of 5* shards which paid dividends and now I have a roster that can beat this content easily. Point is I’m not reviling in the fact that some are struggling, not all content should be easy or the game would suck. Maybe it’s a bit hard for some considering the return but with infinity wars just around the corner I’m sure future content is gonna make it rain 5*s

EvilEmpire

ThePinkGhost wrote: »

zero7 wrote: »

DaMunk wrote: »

Snowflake alert!

so true, in today’s world of participation trophies, easy and normal should be called hard and expert. and if there is a platinum or gold or diamond or whatever level is the top, it shouldn’t exist because not everyone will be able to complete it. we should accommodate for everyone so nobody feels left behind. socialism anyone?

You’re still ignoring the issue... There has to be a reason why something is hard. If this modok expert tier had better rewards to match the effort and time you had to put in, then by all means make it difficult! I didn’t complain once completing the wakandan challenge because I knew the level of difficulty matched the rewards you get for completing it.

Here is the problem, last month and the months before, ppl could get the same rewards for half the work and at 25k difficulty. But this month, those same ppl struggle to get those same rewards due to increased difficulty, WHY INCREASE THE DIFFICULTY?? The rewards aren’t any better so why? Just so the top 1% get the benefits?

The level of challenge in each expert modok path is on par with a boss rush challenge. Except in a boss rush, you get 3k shards and an awakening gem + other stuff. What does completing expert get you? some 200 shards and a few t2 fragments?? how is that fair for ppl accustomed to progressing via the monthly events? that scaling is waaaay off and because of that, lower level players that want to progress and who jave used the event to progress in the past months can’t anymore.

Socialism is stupid... ppl arent arguing to make things easier and to hand out rewards. People are simply arguing NOT to make things UNNECESSARILY difficult! BUT if you decide to do that, it’s 100% fine GRANTED there’s a GOOD reason other than “because I can” which is the kinda move kabam pulled.

Historically the monthly quests that correspond with a MCU movie release have had better rewards and more content. Last month was the BP movie it was kind of a big deal. This isn’t that kind of month.

wSWeaponX

This is a Mobile Phone Game, it's not that serious . Just don't do the event if you don't want to... Sheesh, must you people complain about everything?! Back in the day we didn't even get events like this, be glad there's an opportunity to even get more shards

GroundedWisdom

EvilEmpire wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

EvilEmpire wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

If you had a system where people higher up made larger gains than those below them, no one would grow, and the top would secure its position infinitely. I can see how that would seem appealing, but it would be an unfair system. Unfortunately, they're not the only ones playing, and everyone matters. The ones that need the Resources from these Events the most are in a lower demographic.

No majority of the time higher tier players are heavily restricted to the amount of progress they can make. This appears to be one of the rarer occasions where we get extra that the middle tier is having difficulty collecting.

The same can be said of most games. Progression slows the higher you go. Otherwise no one would have an opportunity to advance in positions. With these Events, they're a chance for people to gain some progression. It should be challenging, no doubt. It needs to be scaled reasonably as well. There's a reason that's rare. If you're going to argue that the Top Tier needs the Rewards more than those in the middle, I don't know what to say. Let's face it. Some people like to see others struggle.

The struggles are what makes the game fun isn’t it ? I had a rough time with the modok quests the first time around, had to buy all the re roll cubes I could get used revives even spent units on revives occasionally. I’m very stingy with units and have played the game patiently when it was prudent. When 5.4 came out I was ready to go, got my T5Bs earned a ton of 5* shards which paid dividends and now I have a roster that can beat this content easily. Point is I’m not reviling in the fact that some are struggling, not all content should be easy or the game would suck. Maybe it’s a bit hard for some considering the return but with infinity wars just around the corner I’m sure future content is gonna make it rain 5*s

To a certain extent. Challenging ourselves is good. There is a limit. It's the Inverted U paradigm. Up to a certain point, it's productive. Once it passes a peak, it's no longer helpful. The majority of people aren't saying it's incredibly insurmountable. It's just too much, given everything else. It's too much for every 12 hours.

DaMunk

All these people saying it's considerably more difficult confuse me. I honestly didn't notice any increase and can complete expert with r5 4* without revives. If you can't I'm not sure what to tell you. The rewards are really nice for the amount of effort. You have to spend tons more time in the arena over 3 days to get far less than you get from the Lab. So either it's to hard or the rewards aren't good enough? Or you aren't good enough or don't have the roster? I don't know about most people but I'd much rather spend 15 minutes a day doing the Lab than grinding millions in arena. Saying the rewards aren't worth it must be from people that don't grind...the only thing I can think of...or you just want something given to you.

Kynny

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

EvilEmpire wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

EvilEmpire wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

If you had a system where people higher up made larger gains than those below them, no one would grow, and the top would secure its position infinitely. I can see how that would seem appealing, but it would be an unfair system. Unfortunately, they're not the only ones playing, and everyone matters. The ones that need the Resources from these Events the most are in a lower demographic.

No majority of the time higher tier players are heavily restricted to the amount of progress they can make. This appears to be one of the rarer occasions where we get extra that the middle tier is having difficulty collecting.

The same can be said of most games. Progression slows the higher you go. Otherwise no one would have an opportunity to advance in positions. With these Events, they're a chance for people to gain some progression. It should be challenging, no doubt. It needs to be scaled reasonably as well. There's a reason that's rare. If you're going to argue that the Top Tier needs the Rewards more than those in the middle, I don't know what to say. Let's face it. Some people like to see others struggle.

The struggles are what makes the game fun isn’t it ? I had a rough time with the modok quests the first time around, had to buy all the re roll cubes I could get used revives even spent units on revives occasionally. I’m very stingy with units and have played the game patiently when it was prudent. When 5.4 came out I was ready to go, got my T5Bs earned a ton of 5* shards which paid dividends and now I have a roster that can beat this content easily. Point is I’m not reviling in the fact that some are struggling, not all content should be easy or the game would suck. Maybe it’s a bit hard for some considering the return but with infinity wars just around the corner I’m sure future content is gonna make it rain 5*s

To a certain extent. Challenging ourselves is good. There is a limit. It's the Inverted U paradigm. Up to a certain point, it's productive. Once it passes a peak, it's no longer helpful. The majority of people aren't saying it's incredibly insurmountable. It's just too much, given everything else. It's too much for every 12 hours.

See and I disagree my concern is every month the game gets easier monthly even uncollected was a joke this month I finished heroic to uc no items In 3 days..

Without things getting harder it becomes dull and dies

GroundedWisdom

Kynny wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

EvilEmpire wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

EvilEmpire wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

If you had a system where people higher up made larger gains than those below them, no one would grow, and the top would secure its position infinitely. I can see how that would seem appealing, but it would be an unfair system. Unfortunately, they're not the only ones playing, and everyone matters. The ones that need the Resources from these Events the most are in a lower demographic.

No majority of the time higher tier players are heavily restricted to the amount of progress they can make. This appears to be one of the rarer occasions where we get extra that the middle tier is having difficulty collecting.

The same can be said of most games. Progression slows the higher you go. Otherwise no one would have an opportunity to advance in positions. With these Events, they're a chance for people to gain some progression. It should be challenging, no doubt. It needs to be scaled reasonably as well. There's a reason that's rare. If you're going to argue that the Top Tier needs the Rewards more than those in the middle, I don't know what to say. Let's face it. Some people like to see others struggle.

The struggles are what makes the game fun isn’t it ? I had a rough time with the modok quests the first time around, had to buy all the re roll cubes I could get used revives even spent units on revives occasionally. I’m very stingy with units and have played the game patiently when it was prudent. When 5.4 came out I was ready to go, got my T5Bs earned a ton of 5* shards which paid dividends and now I have a roster that can beat this content easily. Point is I’m not reviling in the fact that some are struggling, not all content should be easy or the game would suck. Maybe it’s a bit hard for some considering the return but with infinity wars just around the corner I’m sure future content is gonna make it rain 5*s

To a certain extent. Challenging ourselves is good. There is a limit. It's the Inverted U paradigm. Up to a certain point, it's productive. Once it passes a peak, it's no longer helpful. The majority of people aren't saying it's incredibly insurmountable. It's just too much, given everything else. It's too much for every 12 hours.

See and I disagree my concern is every month the game gets easier monthly even uncollected was a joke this month I finished heroic to uc no items In 3 days..

Without things getting harder it becomes dull and dies

That's how you feel. Great. Others are speaking for their own experience. There are more people playing as well.

EvilEmpire

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

EvilEmpire wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

EvilEmpire wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

If you had a system where people higher up made larger gains than those below them, no one would grow, and the top would secure its position infinitely. I can see how that would seem appealing, but it would be an unfair system. Unfortunately, they're not the only ones playing, and everyone matters. The ones that need the Resources from these Events the most are in a lower demographic.

No majority of the time higher tier players are heavily restricted to the amount of progress they can make. This appears to be one of the rarer occasions where we get extra that the middle tier is having difficulty collecting.

The same can be said of most games. Progression slows the higher you go. Otherwise no one would have an opportunity to advance in positions. With these Events, they're a chance for people to gain some progression. It should be challenging, no doubt. It needs to be scaled reasonably as well. There's a reason that's rare. If you're going to argue that the Top Tier needs the Rewards more than those in the middle, I don't know what to say. Let's face it. Some people like to see others struggle.

The struggles are what makes the game fun isn’t it ? I had a rough time with the modok quests the first time around, had to buy all the re roll cubes I could get used revives even spent units on revives occasionally. I’m very stingy with units and have played the game patiently when it was prudent. When 5.4 came out I was ready to go, got my T5Bs earned a ton of 5* shards which paid dividends and now I have a roster that can beat this content easily. Point is I’m not reviling in the fact that some are struggling, not all content should be easy or the game would suck. Maybe it’s a bit hard for some considering the return but with infinity wars just around the corner I’m sure future content is gonna make it rain 5*s

To a certain extent. Challenging ourselves is good. There is a limit. It's the Inverted U paradigm. Up to a certain point, it's productive. Once it passes a peak, it's no longer helpful. The majority of people aren't saying it's incredibly insurmountable. It's just too much, given everything else. It's too much for every 12 hours.

I won’t argue that trying to complete everything in MCOC isnt a burden sometimes but it beats the alternative.

GroundedWisdom

EvilEmpire wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

EvilEmpire wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

EvilEmpire wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

If you had a system where people higher up made larger gains than those below them, no one would grow, and the top would secure its position infinitely. I can see how that would seem appealing, but it would be an unfair system. Unfortunately, they're not the only ones playing, and everyone matters. The ones that need the Resources from these Events the most are in a lower demographic.

No majority of the time higher tier players are heavily restricted to the amount of progress they can make. This appears to be one of the rarer occasions where we get extra that the middle tier is having difficulty collecting.

The same can be said of most games. Progression slows the higher you go. Otherwise no one would have an opportunity to advance in positions. With these Events, they're a chance for people to gain some progression. It should be challenging, no doubt. It needs to be scaled reasonably as well. There's a reason that's rare. If you're going to argue that the Top Tier needs the Rewards more than those in the middle, I don't know what to say. Let's face it. Some people like to see others struggle.

The struggles are what makes the game fun isn’t it ? I had a rough time with the modok quests the first time around, had to buy all the re roll cubes I could get used revives even spent units on revives occasionally. I’m very stingy with units and have played the game patiently when it was prudent. When 5.4 came out I was ready to go, got my T5Bs earned a ton of 5* shards which paid dividends and now I have a roster that can beat this content easily. Point is I’m not reviling in the fact that some are struggling, not all content should be easy or the game would suck. Maybe it’s a bit hard for some considering the return but with infinity wars just around the corner I’m sure future content is gonna make it rain 5*s

To a certain extent. Challenging ourselves is good. There is a limit. It's the Inverted U paradigm. Up to a certain point, it's productive. Once it passes a peak, it's no longer helpful. The majority of people aren't saying it's incredibly insurmountable. It's just too much, given everything else. It's too much for every 12 hours.

I won’t argue that trying to complete everything in MCOC isnt a burden sometimes but it beats the alternative.

All I'm saying is if you push it too far for Events like this, you end up pushing people away more than encouraging them to make an effort on it. We're not talking about Uncollected EQ or a Coulsons-type Challenge. Naturally those will be a challenge for many people. We're talking about a side-Quest. One that runs every 12 hours, all month long. Obviously people are going to want to make an effort. If the majority feel like they're burning out within the first week, all you're left with is a small percentage of Players that benefit, and the rest are left frustrated by something that shouldn't require as much effort or energy as it does.

Blax4ever

Kynny wrote: »

ArmandStar wrote: »

"if the weaker players can't clear the content needed to earn the 5* shards, how are they supposed to get a better roster"

By getting 4 stars and building up to it like the stronger ones did. It's progression

Yup because the whopping TWO 4* Crystals after 30 days is going to progress players who already have the 4*s to clear the hard difficulty while the people who can clear expert get enough shards for a 5* featured crystal. Two Class Catalyst would be more useful for progression.

Yet, you genuises can’t seem to understand why so many players are saying the event isn’t worth the effort.

Ou_Yeah

For those who say that the difficulty seems the same from previous, that's because you have the skills and roster that make it so. Good for you! But there are others, like me, who can for certain say that getting through the expert level is tougher than before. Last time, I could get through maybe 70% of the time with hardly any item use other than the randomizers. Now it's more like 30%, and I'd like to think my skills have grown since last time.

As for those who just feel people are whiners, if Kabam decided to suddenly up the difficulty of the Uncollected Monthly Event Quests to LOL level while keeping the rewards the same, how would you feel? If you would feel like that's unfair, what is the difference between that situation and this one?

Kynny

Ou_Yeah wrote: »

For those who say that the difficulty seems the same from previous, that's because you have the skills and roster that make it so. Good for you! But there are others, like me, who can for certain say that getting through the expert level is tougher than before. Last time, I could get through maybe 70% of the time with hardly any item use other than the randomizers. Now it's more like 30%, and I'd like to think my skills have grown since last time.

As for those who just feel people are whiners, if Kabam decided to suddenly up the difficulty of the Uncollected Monthly Event Quests to LOL level while keeping the rewards the same, how would you feel? If you would feel like that's unfair, what is the difference between that situation and this one?

False I'd love it if uncollected was harder I play for the challenge I don't even read rewards just do the conte t for the challenge

Fallencircus

Ou_Yeah wrote: »

For those who say that the difficulty seems the same from previous, that's because you have the skills and roster that make it so. Good for you! But there are others, like me, who can for certain say that getting through the expert level is tougher than before. Last time, I could get through maybe 70% of the time with hardly any item use other than the randomizers. Now it's more like 30%, and I'd like to think my skills have grown since last time.

As for those who just feel people are whiners, if Kabam decided to suddenly up the difficulty of the Uncollected Monthly Event Quests to LOL level while keeping the rewards the same, how would you feel? If you would feel like that's unfair, what is the difference between that situation and this one?

This is really simple. There are 4 levels of difficulty, you are not entitled to beat or even compete in every level unless you want to pay. Why is that hard to understand? Why do people feel entitled to be able to compete in all aspects of the game?

To your point if they made uncollected as hard as LOL i wouldnt do it. The Coulson Challenge i was not able to beat entirely because i was unwilling to spend. So i just didnt do it, i devoted more time to get better and did the next one. There was also a time i couldn't compete for the daily tier 3 cat quest so i took my time and got a better roster and finally was able to do it.

For some reason there is this weird movement where everyone feels they are owed a shot to be good at everything. I swear half the kids on the teams i coach start the season throwing their sticks or bats down and crying if they fail. They complain because the other kid got a hit or can score a goal and sit there and throw a fit because they cant. Some people are just better, the ones that arent are sent to lower level teams to build their skill so they can compete.

If you cant compete at that level, play the levels you can and get better or a better roster. Just because you did before doesnt mean they shouldnt make it harder. If the game didnt get more challenging the $$$ players would leave and the game woukd die.

ThePinkGhost

EvilEmpire wrote: »

Historically the monthly quests that correspond with a MCU movie release have had better rewards and more content. Last month was the BP movie it was kind of a big deal. This isn’t that kind of month.

Ok that’s fair, but this event is still more difficult than the ones before the bp movie. It’s probably the first 30k expert event, and it has some of the toughest nodes and randomness factor involved.

Like I said, difficulty is fine. I’m not complaining about labyrinth being hard as nails because the rewards justify the challenge. This events rewards doesn’t justify its boss rush level difficulty, and more importantly, since it’s a monthly event (which people depend on for progression), a lot of people will be weeded out purely for the purpose of making rewards exclusive.

Idk man... Some ppl just can’t relate and i understand this event is HEAVEN for ppl who can clear it easily because it costs no energy, but at the expense slightly weaker players having to deal with waiting for next month.

Jaffacaked

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

RagamugginGunner wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

RagamugginGunner wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

RagamugginGunner wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Telling people that not all content is for everyone is redundant. It's the equivalent of telling someone to sit at the Kiddy Table. When people are voicing their thoughts on the Event and others keep brushing them off as if there is no problem, it's belittling. That doesn't mean their thoughts aren't valid, and that doesn't necessarily mean all is as it should be. Everyone is here to voice their own perspective. That's the point the OP is trying to make. Telling people not to do it is not respective to the issue. Although, some just don't care and don't see a problem regardless.

There is a reason that children have to sit at the kids table and not with the adults. Throwing a tantrum about is doesn't get them to the adult's table, growing up does.

If you can't do a piece of content it is because you aren't good enough at the game to do it. Stop crying about it and get better.

Lol. Thank you, wise one. Your words are incredibly helpful. Except not.
No one is crying, no one is throwing a tantrum, no one says people aren't good enough. People are trying to get a point across and they have to deal with ignorant comments like this one.

How is the truth not helpful? If you can't do it you aren't good enough. Spend less time posting on the forums about how unfair the game is and get better.

All I've learned from these threads is that people refuse to look themselves in the mirror and admit that they just aren't good enough.

That's not truth. It's a jaded assumption based on arrogance and a personal opinion.
It is also not helping anyone.

And how, exactly, are you helping anyone?

By helping them be heard.

Wow so your patronising a

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

EvilEmpire wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

EvilEmpire wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

If you had a system where people higher up made larger gains than those below them, no one would grow, and the top would secure its position infinitely. I can see how that would seem appealing, but it would be an unfair system. Unfortunately, they're not the only ones playing, and everyone matters. The ones that need the Resources from these Events the most are in a lower demographic.

No majority of the time higher tier players are heavily restricted to the amount of progress they can make. This appears to be one of the rarer occasions where we get extra that the middle tier is having difficulty collecting.

The same can be said of most games. Progression slows the higher you go. Otherwise no one would have an opportunity to advance in positions. With these Events, they're a chance for people to gain some progression. It should be challenging, no doubt. It needs to be scaled reasonably as well. There's a reason that's rare. If you're going to argue that the Top Tier needs the Rewards more than those in the middle, I don't know what to say. Let's face it. Some people like to see others struggle.

The struggles are what makes the game fun isn’t it ? I had a rough time with the modok quests the first time around, had to buy all the re roll cubes I could get used revives even spent units on revives occasionally. I’m very stingy with units and have played the game patiently when it was prudent. When 5.4 came out I was ready to go, got my T5Bs earned a ton of 5* shards which paid dividends and now I have a roster that can beat this content easily. Point is I’m not reviling in the fact that some are struggling, not all content should be easy or the game would suck. Maybe it’s a bit hard for some considering the return but with infinity wars just around the corner I’m sure future content is gonna make it rain 5*s

To a certain extent. Challenging ourselves is good. There is a limit. It's the Inverted U paradigm. Up to a certain point, it's productive. Once it passes a peak, it's no longer helpful. The majority of people aren't saying it's incredibly insurmountable. It's just too much, given everything else. It's too much for every 12 hours.

Isn't an inverted u just an n

Maat1985

@GroundedWisdom i accept that you are allowed to havebyour opinion and i am not gunna talk against it.... i have only voiced mine......
You however are being a hypocrite.
On one hand you are saying everyone can have and voice their opinion without others goving them grief over it.
Yet here you are telling everyone they are wrong and they need to stop saying wat they are saying and that you are right.
It cant be had both ways.

I believe is hard and meant to be hard and the rewards are fine for wat it is. Sometimes easy rewards sometimes not..... if i want to do it all the time i need to get better cus thats how things work.. the content is the difficulty it is and the rewards are wat they are. I then look at it and decide if it is worth it.... i feel sometimes it is. Others feel it always is....

You feel that it isnt. You and others here feel that it is too hard for wat the rewards are. Thats fine. Have that opinion and try amd get kabam to change it in the future as much as you want.

But do not come here and tell me and others who share my opinion that we cant voice it. That is wat you are doing and it is not cool.

As i said i respect your opinion and will not tell you you cant voice it. You need to respect my opinion and allow me to voice it.

Kynny

ThePinkGhost wrote: »

EvilEmpire wrote: »

Historically the monthly quests that correspond with a MCU movie release have had better rewards and more content. Last month was the BP movie it was kind of a big deal. This isn’t that kind of month.

Ok that’s fair, but this event is still more difficult than the ones before the bp movie. It’s probably the first 30k expert event, and it has some of the toughest nodes and randomness factor involved.

Like I said, difficulty is fine. I’m not complaining about labyrinth being hard as nails because the rewards justify the challenge. This events rewards doesn’t justify its boss rush level difficulty, and more importantly, since it’s a monthly event (which people depend on for progression), a lot of people will be weeded out purely for the purpose of making rewards exclusive.

Idk man... Some ppl just can’t relate and i understand this event is HEAVEN for ppl who can clear it easily because it costs no energy, but at the expense slightly weaker players having to deal with waiting for next month.

The second 3rd 4th 5th and 6th lol runs grant you a dupe of rhino Cyclops or robin 4 stars.thats all . yet those peoplecatent complaining the effort ( far larger) isn't worth the rewards( Far smaller)

GroundedWisdom

Jaffacaked wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

RagamugginGunner wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

RagamugginGunner wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

RagamugginGunner wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Telling people that not all content is for everyone is redundant. It's the equivalent of telling someone to sit at the Kiddy Table. When people are voicing their thoughts on the Event and others keep brushing them off as if there is no problem, it's belittling. That doesn't mean their thoughts aren't valid, and that doesn't necessarily mean all is as it should be. Everyone is here to voice their own perspective. That's the point the OP is trying to make. Telling people not to do it is not respective to the issue. Although, some just don't care and don't see a problem regardless.

There is a reason that children have to sit at the kids table and not with the adults. Throwing a tantrum about is doesn't get them to the adult's table, growing up does.

If you can't do a piece of content it is because you aren't good enough at the game to do it. Stop crying about it and get better.

Lol. Thank you, wise one. Your words are incredibly helpful. Except not.
No one is crying, no one is throwing a tantrum, no one says people aren't good enough. People are trying to get a point across and they have to deal with ignorant comments like this one.

How is the truth not helpful? If you can't do it you aren't good enough. Spend less time posting on the forums about how unfair the game is and get better.

All I've learned from these threads is that people refuse to look themselves in the mirror and admit that they just aren't good enough.

That's not truth. It's a jaded assumption based on arrogance and a personal opinion.
It is also not helping anyone.

And how, exactly, are you helping anyone?

By helping them be heard.

Wow so your patronising a

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

EvilEmpire wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

EvilEmpire wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

If you had a system where people higher up made larger gains than those below them, no one would grow, and the top would secure its position infinitely. I can see how that would seem appealing, but it would be an unfair system. Unfortunately, they're not the only ones playing, and everyone matters. The ones that need the Resources from these Events the most are in a lower demographic.

No majority of the time higher tier players are heavily restricted to the amount of progress they can make. This appears to be one of the rarer occasions where we get extra that the middle tier is having difficulty collecting.

The same can be said of most games. Progression slows the higher you go. Otherwise no one would have an opportunity to advance in positions. With these Events, they're a chance for people to gain some progression. It should be challenging, no doubt. It needs to be scaled reasonably as well. There's a reason that's rare. If you're going to argue that the Top Tier needs the Rewards more than those in the middle, I don't know what to say. Let's face it. Some people like to see others struggle.

The struggles are what makes the game fun isn’t it ? I had a rough time with the modok quests the first time around, had to buy all the re roll cubes I could get used revives even spent units on revives occasionally. I’m very stingy with units and have played the game patiently when it was prudent. When 5.4 came out I was ready to go, got my T5Bs earned a ton of 5* shards which paid dividends and now I have a roster that can beat this content easily. Point is I’m not reviling in the fact that some are struggling, not all content should be easy or the game would suck. Maybe it’s a bit hard for some considering the return but with infinity wars just around the corner I’m sure future content is gonna make it rain 5*s

To a certain extent. Challenging ourselves is good. There is a limit. It's the Inverted U paradigm. Up to a certain point, it's productive. Once it passes a peak, it's no longer helpful. The majority of people aren't saying it's incredibly insurmountable. It's just too much, given everything else. It's too much for every 12 hours.

Isn't an inverted u just an n

That's the name of the theory. I would also look up the meaning of patronizing.

Jaffacaked

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Jaffacaked wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

RagamugginGunner wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

RagamugginGunner wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

RagamugginGunner wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Telling people that not all content is for everyone is redundant. It's the equivalent of telling someone to sit at the Kiddy Table. When people are voicing their thoughts on the Event and others keep brushing them off as if there is no problem, it's belittling. That doesn't mean their thoughts aren't valid, and that doesn't necessarily mean all is as it should be. Everyone is here to voice their own perspective. That's the point the OP is trying to make. Telling people not to do it is not respective to the issue. Although, some just don't care and don't see a problem regardless.

There is a reason that children have to sit at the kids table and not with the adults. Throwing a tantrum about is doesn't get them to the adult's table, growing up does.

If you can't do a piece of content it is because you aren't good enough at the game to do it. Stop crying about it and get better.

Lol. Thank you, wise one. Your words are incredibly helpful. Except not.
No one is crying, no one is throwing a tantrum, no one says people aren't good enough. People are trying to get a point across and they have to deal with ignorant comments like this one.

How is the truth not helpful? If you can't do it you aren't good enough. Spend less time posting on the forums about how unfair the game is and get better.

All I've learned from these threads is that people refuse to look themselves in the mirror and admit that they just aren't good enough.

That's not truth. It's a jaded assumption based on arrogance and a personal opinion.
It is also not helping anyone.

And how, exactly, are you helping anyone?

By helping them be heard.

Wow so your patronising a

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

EvilEmpire wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

EvilEmpire wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

If you had a system where people higher up made larger gains than those below them, no one would grow, and the top would secure its position infinitely. I can see how that would seem appealing, but it would be an unfair system. Unfortunately, they're not the only ones playing, and everyone matters. The ones that need the Resources from these Events the most are in a lower demographic.

No majority of the time higher tier players are heavily restricted to the amount of progress they can make. This appears to be one of the rarer occasions where we get extra that the middle tier is having difficulty collecting.

The same can be said of most games. Progression slows the higher you go. Otherwise no one would have an opportunity to advance in positions. With these Events, they're a chance for people to gain some progression. It should be challenging, no doubt. It needs to be scaled reasonably as well. There's a reason that's rare. If you're going to argue that the Top Tier needs the Rewards more than those in the middle, I don't know what to say. Let's face it. Some people like to see others struggle.

The struggles are what makes the game fun isn’t it ? I had a rough time with the modok quests the first time around, had to buy all the re roll cubes I could get used revives even spent units on revives occasionally. I’m very stingy with units and have played the game patiently when it was prudent. When 5.4 came out I was ready to go, got my T5Bs earned a ton of 5* shards which paid dividends and now I have a roster that can beat this content easily. Point is I’m not reviling in the fact that some are struggling, not all content should be easy or the game would suck. Maybe it’s a bit hard for some considering the return but with infinity wars just around the corner I’m sure future content is gonna make it rain 5*s

To a certain extent. Challenging ourselves is good. There is a limit. It's the Inverted U paradigm. Up to a certain point, it's productive. Once it passes a peak, it's no longer helpful. The majority of people aren't saying it's incredibly insurmountable. It's just too much, given everything else. It's too much for every 12 hours.

Isn't an inverted u just an n

That's the name of the theory. I would also look up the meaning of patronizing.

I know what it means, your patronising them thinking they need you to speak for them when their are people already doing that

An jeez you literally have no sense of humour with that n thing smh

GroundedWisdom

Maat1985 wrote: »

@GroundedWisdom i accept that you are allowed to havebyour opinion and i am not gunna talk against it.... i have only voiced mine......
You however are being a hypocrite.
On one hand you are saying everyone can have and voice their opinion without others goving them grief over it.
Yet here you are telling everyone they are wrong and they need to stop saying wat they are saying and that you are right.
It cant be had both ways.

I believe is hard and meant to be hard and the rewards are fine for wat it is. Sometimes easy rewards sometimes not..... if i want to do it all the time i need to get better cus thats how things work.. the content is the difficulty it is and the rewards are wat they are. I then look at it and decide if it is worth it.... i feel sometimes it is. Others feel it always is....

You feel that it isnt. You and others here feel that it is too hard for wat the rewards are. Thats fine. Have that opinion and try amd get kabam to change it in the future as much as you want.

But do not come here and tell me and others who share my opinion that we cant voice it. That is wat you are doing and it is not cool.

As i said i respect your opinion and will not tell you you cant voice it. You need to respect my opinion and allow me to voice it.

I'm not being a hypocrite. I'm not the one telling people they can't voice their opinion. There is a difference between saying "I found it easy.", and saying "You're just not good enough.". Someone can voice their opinion without minimizing other people and passing judgment on them. That's not expressing an opinion. It's putting people down for having a concern.

GroundedWisdom

Jaffacaked wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Jaffacaked wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

RagamugginGunner wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

RagamugginGunner wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

RagamugginGunner wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Telling people that not all content is for everyone is redundant. It's the equivalent of telling someone to sit at the Kiddy Table. When people are voicing their thoughts on the Event and others keep brushing them off as if there is no problem, it's belittling. That doesn't mean their thoughts aren't valid, and that doesn't necessarily mean all is as it should be. Everyone is here to voice their own perspective. That's the point the OP is trying to make. Telling people not to do it is not respective to the issue. Although, some just don't care and don't see a problem regardless.

There is a reason that children have to sit at the kids table and not with the adults. Throwing a tantrum about is doesn't get them to the adult's table, growing up does.

If you can't do a piece of content it is because you aren't good enough at the game to do it. Stop crying about it and get better.

Lol. Thank you, wise one. Your words are incredibly helpful. Except not.
No one is crying, no one is throwing a tantrum, no one says people aren't good enough. People are trying to get a point across and they have to deal with ignorant comments like this one.

How is the truth not helpful? If you can't do it you aren't good enough. Spend less time posting on the forums about how unfair the game is and get better.

All I've learned from these threads is that people refuse to look themselves in the mirror and admit that they just aren't good enough.

That's not truth. It's a jaded assumption based on arrogance and a personal opinion.
It is also not helping anyone.

And how, exactly, are you helping anyone?

By helping them be heard.

Wow so your patronising a

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

EvilEmpire wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

EvilEmpire wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

If you had a system where people higher up made larger gains than those below them, no one would grow, and the top would secure its position infinitely. I can see how that would seem appealing, but it would be an unfair system. Unfortunately, they're not the only ones playing, and everyone matters. The ones that need the Resources from these Events the most are in a lower demographic.

No majority of the time higher tier players are heavily restricted to the amount of progress they can make. This appears to be one of the rarer occasions where we get extra that the middle tier is having difficulty collecting.

The same can be said of most games. Progression slows the higher you go. Otherwise no one would have an opportunity to advance in positions. With these Events, they're a chance for people to gain some progression. It should be challenging, no doubt. It needs to be scaled reasonably as well. There's a reason that's rare. If you're going to argue that the Top Tier needs the Rewards more than those in the middle, I don't know what to say. Let's face it. Some people like to see others struggle.

The struggles are what makes the game fun isn’t it ? I had a rough time with the modok quests the first time around, had to buy all the re roll cubes I could get used revives even spent units on revives occasionally. I’m very stingy with units and have played the game patiently when it was prudent. When 5.4 came out I was ready to go, got my T5Bs earned a ton of 5* shards which paid dividends and now I have a roster that can beat this content easily. Point is I’m not reviling in the fact that some are struggling, not all content should be easy or the game would suck. Maybe it’s a bit hard for some considering the return but with infinity wars just around the corner I’m sure future content is gonna make it rain 5*s

To a certain extent. Challenging ourselves is good. There is a limit. It's the Inverted U paradigm. Up to a certain point, it's productive. Once it passes a peak, it's no longer helpful. The majority of people aren't saying it's incredibly insurmountable. It's just too much, given everything else. It's too much for every 12 hours.

Isn't an inverted u just an n

That's the name of the theory. I would also look up the meaning of patronizing.

I know what it means, your patronising them thinking they need you to speak for them when their are people already doing that

An jeez you literally have no sense of humour with that n thing smh

Who says I'm speaking for them? I was asked how I'm helping. I answered. I'm with the OP. That also includes me. I voiced my feedback, and I was met with the same response. I'm speaking for myself. Frankly, I'm tired of people being so quick to call people unskilled everytime they have an issue that pertains to an increase in difficulty.

Maat1985

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Maat1985 wrote: »

@GroundedWisdom i accept that you are allowed to havebyour opinion and i am not gunna talk against it.... i have only voiced mine......
You however are being a hypocrite.
On one hand you are saying everyone can have and voice their opinion without others goving them grief over it.
Yet here you are telling everyone they are wrong and they need to stop saying wat they are saying and that you are right.
It cant be had both ways.

I believe is hard and meant to be hard and the rewards are fine for wat it is. Sometimes easy rewards sometimes not..... if i want to do it all the time i need to get better cus thats how things work.. the content is the difficulty it is and the rewards are wat they are. I then look at it and decide if it is worth it.... i feel sometimes it is. Others feel it always is....

You feel that it isnt. You and others here feel that it is too hard for wat the rewards are. Thats fine. Have that opinion and try amd get kabam to change it in the future as much as you want.

But do not come here and tell me and others who share my opinion that we cant voice it. That is wat you are doing and it is not cool.

As i said i respect your opinion and will not tell you you cant voice it. You need to respect my opinion and allow me to voice it.

I'm not being a hypocrite. I'm not the one telling people they can't voice their opinion. There is a difference between saying "I found it easy.", and saying "You're just not good enough.". Someone can voice their opinion without minimizing other people and passing judgment on them. That's not expressing an opinion. It's putting people down for having a concern.

It is not putting anyone down. If you cannot do something then you are not good enough. It would be putting someone down if that was followed up with and you will never be good enough.
It is a fact simple if you are unable to do something itnis too hard for you. If it is too hard for you hen you are not good enough. You need to keep trying, get a better roster, get stronger champs, get more practice and more skill. Whatever it is that you are lacking. Personally when i do it i fail because i made poor champ selection or my skill lets me down. If my skill lets me down then i feel i was not good enoug and need to try harder next time.

Jaffacaked

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

RagamugginGunner wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

RagamugginGunner wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

RagamugginGunner wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Telling people that not all content is for everyone is redundant. It's the equivalent of telling someone to sit at the Kiddy Table. When people are voicing their thoughts on the Event and others keep brushing them off as if there is no problem, it's belittling. That doesn't mean their thoughts aren't valid, and that doesn't necessarily mean all is as it should be. Everyone is here to voice their own perspective. That's the point the OP is trying to make. Telling people not to do it is not respective to the issue. Although, some just don't care and don't see a problem regardless.

There is a reason that children have to sit at the kids table and not with the adults. Throwing a tantrum about is doesn't get them to the adult's table, growing up does.

If you can't do a piece of content it is because you aren't good enough at the game to do it. Stop crying about it and get better.

Lol. Thank you, wise one. Your words are incredibly helpful. Except not.
No one is crying, no one is throwing a tantrum, no one says people aren't good enough. People are trying to get a point across and they have to deal with ignorant comments like this one.

How is the truth not helpful? If you can't do it you aren't good enough. Spend less time posting on the forums about how unfair the game is and get better.

All I've learned from these threads is that people refuse to look themselves in the mirror and admit that they just aren't good enough.

That's not truth. It's a jaded assumption based on arrogance and a personal opinion.
It is also not helping anyone.

And how, exactly, are you helping anyone?

By helping them be heard.

You did

GroundedWisdom

Maat1985 wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Maat1985 wrote: »

@GroundedWisdom i accept that you are allowed to havebyour opinion and i am not gunna talk against it.... i have only voiced mine......
You however are being a hypocrite.
On one hand you are saying everyone can have and voice their opinion without others goving them grief over it.
Yet here you are telling everyone they are wrong and they need to stop saying wat they are saying and that you are right.
It cant be had both ways.

I believe is hard and meant to be hard and the rewards are fine for wat it is. Sometimes easy rewards sometimes not..... if i want to do it all the time i need to get better cus thats how things work.. the content is the difficulty it is and the rewards are wat they are. I then look at it and decide if it is worth it.... i feel sometimes it is. Others feel it always is....

You feel that it isnt. You and others here feel that it is too hard for wat the rewards are. Thats fine. Have that opinion and try amd get kabam to change it in the future as much as you want.

But do not come here and tell me and others who share my opinion that we cant voice it. That is wat you are doing and it is not cool.

As i said i respect your opinion and will not tell you you cant voice it. You need to respect my opinion and allow me to voice it.

I'm not being a hypocrite. I'm not the one telling people they can't voice their opinion. There is a difference between saying "I found it easy.", and saying "You're just not good enough.". Someone can voice their opinion without minimizing other people and passing judgment on them. That's not expressing an opinion. It's putting people down for having a concern.

It is not putting anyone down. If you cannot do something then you are not good enough. It would be putting someone down if that was followed up with and you will never be good enough.
It is a fact simple if you are unable to do something itnis too hard for you. If it is too hard for you hen you are not good enough. You need to keep trying, get a better roster, get stronger champs, get more practice and more skill. Whatever it is that you are lacking. Personally when i do it i fail because i made poor champ selection or my skill lets me down. If my skill lets me down then i feel i was not good enoug and need to try harder next time.

You keep making that judgment and it's not accurate. First off, no one said I can't do it. No one said the OP can't do it.
Secondly, saying someone isn't good enough IS putting them down. You cannot judge someone's skill in the game based on the concerns they voice on the Forum. It's that kind of prejudice that we are discussing. As for your comments about me being a hypocrite, I never question someone's skill. It's not my place to do so. We don't know what people are capable of. Yet that's exactly what happens on this Forum. Someone says something is too challenging and people pour in to tell them to "Git Gud". Not always in those words, but that's the gist of it. That reaction is so automatic that people don't even stop to hear what they're saying, and that's what is happening here. Prejudice. The act of prejudging something. Only people aren't even listening to what we're trying to say because they've already formed their own judgments and are telling us what the problem is. We're telling you what our issue is. It's not that we're not good enough.

Maat1985

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Maat1985 wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Maat1985 wrote: »

@GroundedWisdom i accept that you are allowed to havebyour opinion and i am not gunna talk against it.... i have only voiced mine......
You however are being a hypocrite.
On one hand you are saying everyone can have and voice their opinion without others goving them grief over it.
Yet here you are telling everyone they are wrong and they need to stop saying wat they are saying and that you are right.
It cant be had both ways.

I believe is hard and meant to be hard and the rewards are fine for wat it is. Sometimes easy rewards sometimes not..... if i want to do it all the time i need to get better cus thats how things work.. the content is the difficulty it is and the rewards are wat they are. I then look at it and decide if it is worth it.... i feel sometimes it is. Others feel it always is....

You feel that it isnt. You and others here feel that it is too hard for wat the rewards are. Thats fine. Have that opinion and try amd get kabam to change it in the future as much as you want.

But do not come here and tell me and others who share my opinion that we cant voice it. That is wat you are doing and it is not cool.

As i said i respect your opinion and will not tell you you cant voice it. You need to respect my opinion and allow me to voice it.

I'm not being a hypocrite. I'm not the one telling people they can't voice their opinion. There is a difference between saying "I found it easy.", and saying "You're just not good enough.". Someone can voice their opinion without minimizing other people and passing judgment on them. That's not expressing an opinion. It's putting people down for having a concern.

It is not putting anyone down. If you cannot do something then you are not good enough. It would be putting someone down if that was followed up with and you will never be good enough.
It is a fact simple if you are unable to do something itnis too hard for you. If it is too hard for you hen you are not good enough. You need to keep trying, get a better roster, get stronger champs, get more practice and more skill. Whatever it is that you are lacking. Personally when i do it i fail because i made poor champ selection or my skill lets me down. If my skill lets me down then i feel i was not good enoug and need to try harder next time.

You keep making that judgment and it's not accurate. First off, no one said I can't do it. No one said the OP can't do it.
Secondly, saying someone isn't good enough IS putting them down. You cannot judge someone's skill in the game based on the concerns they voice on the Forum. It's that kind of prejudice that we are discussing. As for your comments about me being a hypocrite, I never question someone's skill. It's not my place to do so. We don't know what people are capable of. Yet that's exactly what happens on this Forum. Someone says something is too challenging and people pour in to tell them to "Git Gud". Not always in those words, but that's the gist of it. That reaction is so automatic that people don't even stop to hear what they're saying, and that's what is happening here. Prejudice. The act of prejudging something. Only people aren't even listening to what we're trying to say because they've already formed their own judgments and are telling us what the problem is. We're telling you what our issue is. It's not that we're not good enough.

Read wat i am saying.

I am saying i find it hard

I am saying i accept the rewards and the difficulty level

I am saying i need to get better for it to be easier....

So am i insulting myself now?

GroundedWisdom

If that's your perspective, I respect that. That doesn't mean I agree that's the issue.