Alliance Quest Miniboss and Sentinel Refresh - April 2018 - Discussion Thread [Updated April 13]

Summoners,

We've just announced a small refresh of Alliance Quests that will start April 2nd. This will include new Minibosses, and a farewell to our Symbioid friends!

Read all about it, then ask your questions!

UPDATE:
We've just posted an update in regards to your feedback on Alliance Quests. This post includes some adjustments to Sentinels and Alliance Quests that will be coming with the next series (Starting April 18th). Take a look right here: http://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/62626/upcoming-adjustments-to-alliance-quests-april-18th-2018

Comments

General_Vis

My point is that if you’re ranking champions purely to get through the latest version of AQ then you can’t conplain when it switches up, as that’s always going to happen.

I have a R3 Agent Venom and could R4 him as he’s a good counter for Void, but that’s my call to make and I’ll have to live with the consequences whenever Void is replaced. If they replace Void with another champ who AV is nowhere near as good against I can’t really complain.

dTurtle

Sentinels Suck, period i don't think there is any argument that can change that fact, Kabam has created them to destroy all the good champions that we have worked so hard to rank up. I am a seasoned player (>2.5 years now), and I can't beat those A.holz in arena let alone in alliance quest where they will be super aggressive, how dare you say that they melt down to armor break, does that mean everyone should throw away their current champs in the dust bin and start building armor break champs, who will not regen nor will they be bleed/ poison immune. You need to introduce champs that can properly counter such enemies, let majority of us have them and then may be talk about rolling out Sentinels in AQ, you just can't do anything against them once they reach high level of analysis (which they do pretty quickly, mind you) and hit you with incinerate while you are blocking, i might as well just stand there without doing anything and enjoy the animation of your super lovely monstrosity that is those sentinels. I am ready to quit the game if such cheap money grabbing theatrics are going to be common place.

Hemi_123

Bro i fully understand your point,, you are going to rank up av ,, because you already have blade,, medusa ,,, gr,,, dr vodoo at rank 4.. or may you have someone at rank 5.. during last 1 and half year total tier2 alpha i got is 4 ,,, so if my luck change and aftr duck,, magneto,, bpcw,, bp,, she hulk,, ant man,, i open blade or medusa and av as well in next two 5* crystal to whom should i rank up???

Dududuedu

Preciso de cristais de quatro estrelas, onde conseguir

Dududuedu

Jogo muito esse jogo, não muito bem mais jogo bastante e preciso de cristais.de quatro estrelas mais.tem muito poucas opções

Kpatrix

Just wait till next season with the full revamp of path champs, this is just the tip of the iceberg. You'll have to bring counters to modok, Medusa, phisto, who knows what else they will drop in. Maybe it's better they increase the difficulty in increments than all at once. I still think they should upgrade rewards along with this change to reflect the increase we are seeing. I don't mind the change, we will adapt, but it's cheap on them to say these changes don't warrant an increase in rewards when we are already bottlenecked with certain resources as is.

Hemi_123

dTurtle wrote: »

Sentinels Suck, period i don't think there is any argument that can change that fact, Kabam has created them to destroy all the good champions that we have worked so hard to rank up. I am a seasoned player (>2.5 years now), and I can't beat those A.holz in arena let alone in alliance quest where they will be super aggressive, how dare you say that they melt down to armor break, does that mean everyone should throw away their current champs in the dust bin and start building armor break champs, who will not regen nor will they be bleed/ poison immune. You need to introduce champs that can properly counter such enemies, let majority of us have them and then may be talk about rolling out Sentinels in AQ, you just can't do anything against them once they reach high level of analysis (which they do pretty quickly, mind you) and hit you with incinerate while you are blocking, i might as well just stand there without doing anything and enjoy the animation of your super lovely monstrosity that is those sentinels. I am ready to quit the game if such cheap money grabbing theatrics are going to be common place.

I am going to do the same,,, we worked on these champs that we upgraded and it took 1 and half year of your life.. and now kabam is saying those champs are useless,,, start that work from the begining,, and funny thing is they are not giving any good 5* ... people are geting antman,, duck,, duck,, and only usefull champions you got they are going to be trash

General_Vis

Hemi_123 wrote: »

Bro i fully understand your point,, you are going to rank up av ,, because you already have blade,, medusa ,,, gr,,, dr vodoo at rank 4.. or may you have someone at rank 5.. during last 1 and half year total tier2 alpha i got is 4 ,,, so if my luck change and aftr duck,, magneto,, bpcw,, bp,, she hulk,, ant man,, i open blade or medusa and av as well in next two 5* crystal to whom should i rank up???

So what’s the alternative? Kabam aren’t going to keep the same enemies forever and they’re not going to keep releasing content based on what players have ranked over a year ago. The game’s never worked like that. It’s an endless cycle of releasing counters to champs then counters to those counters and so on.

I don’t have Blade myself but at some point there’ll be new champs who will counter him and then there’ll be new champs who counter those.

tutyimutyi

The good and useful heroes against gg,nc,morningstar and the sentinels are very limited and rare.plus,we should use them in the war defense and offense.the players are becoming payers,when they enjoy the game.there is nothing enjoyable comes,just more headache.we are not dumb,to pay for a t4b weekly.i am not surprised at all.just one more horrible marketing and design change from kabam....

Rockon

with these changes do we get rank down tickets to adjust champs to the adjustment to the game? does everyone who play the game now really want to stick around with the changes coming up? what about meeting with system of new champs every month and not enough resources to rank them up? will cyclops still be a good attacker in aq the symboid changes and mini boss changes?

Amonthir

No adjustments were made directly to champs, and it's not a special Christmas event, so no RDTs should be given, or the idea even discussed. Changes to content do not meet the requirements. They are changing a couple champs per each line, and the Sub-bosses; it is not the end of the world. It will make the maps more difficult, and it's eye-roll worthy to say they cannot possibly adjust rewards up to compensate for the whack adjustment for no reason, but that's it. Wolverine will still work against a large portion of the map. Other champions exist. And no one should expect (or want) to run the same champs all the time, every time.

thanks4playing

A lot of these comments are missing the main point.

Will the changes be more difficult? Probably. If you're arguing that it won't, then you just don't have the foresight, but again, that's not the main point.

Will the changes require players to rank up different champions? Most likely.

Do most of these players have viable options to rank up? Probably not.

Do most of these players have the resources to rank up these options if they happen to have viable options? Probably not.

Have the AQ rewards been insufferably outdated? Absolutely.

Has Kabam given a timeline as to when these rewards will be changed or any specific information on what these changes will look like? Absolutely not.

Has Kabam been rightly criticized of not being transparent and being sensitive to the needs of the community? Absolutely.

Then why are we not getting more transparent communication about these outdated rewards?

Furthermore, why does it take so much effort to modify these outdated AQ rewards, especially considering that they had the time to introduce these new AQ changes?

You can nitpick each of the subpoints above, but that would be missing the main point. The main point is that all of the subpoints above are real issues to most of the players in this community, and Kabam has not addressed them according to the severity of these issues.

After grinding really hard to be a boss killer in a top 150 alliance (AQ and AW) while only having played for 11 months, I'm really at a loss for words and feeling very unmotivated to continue on.

BossyBuilder

Firethumb_1 wrote: »

I'm sure a significant % of the player base use a5/50 Wolvie in aq to limit the items they use and so they should. Now low and behold sentinels arrive they're bleed immune and gain extra charges over mutant class... Funny that

I totally agree. Using Wolverine with an emphasis on "limiting item use". Guess what happens when we use items...$$$

Surprise, surprise.

Tonedef

This announcement should have been made no less than 1 month ago or these changes should be coming in May. To drop a deuce like this isn’t fair to people who’ve recently ranked champs specifically for the current lineup in AQ. I don’t fall into this category. I’ve been using Angela, Hulk, Wolfy forever and ranked my Medusa recently to kill those UC Sentz. All I need is LC and I’ll be ready to crush AQ.

We are like leaves being blown around by hurricane Kabam, completely at the mercy of the winds of change. More advanced notice would have been awesome to have!

Liss_Bliss_

Anyone notice the easier way to switch NC is not working anymore?

What’s next changing Ultron regen to be 55% and 15% so we can’t double regen anymore?

I for one can’t wait for all the increased rewards.....oh that’s right.

Jdub

So can I get a refund on deep wounds sense that will be useless now awesome thanks.

Troy_Elric123

Very very bad move. Why don't u just blast 50 percent health if u don't bring a specific champ to a specific fight. Do u people even have Berta testers who actually play and test without a rigged game like the rest of us? Do u know how many steps in difficulty this raises the bar

StarShadow7

“We are not at a place or time where we can increase the rewards or fully refresh the mode right now.”

So why even do a half-assed “update” that, so far, it seems everyone will hate? Why not just wait til everything can be refreshed properly?

kmbell81

Arttton wrote: »

Kabam Miike wrote: »

420sam wrote: »

So, you are making it more difficult yet not adjusting anything like rewards or even glory? Can I ask why? How does this benefit the players?

As we said in that post, we are working on a full refresh. We are not at a place or time where we can increase the rewards or fully refresh the mode right now.

If you are working on a full refresh than what is the point of this change again?

did the community ask for new bosses and sentinel addition?

can i have only one logical reason?

Money is the only reason for the change. They are trying to increase revenue.

Speeds80

Honestly I’m not for rankdown tickets, but I feel like the people below 200k could probably do with a 4* one or two with this update, honestly 4*s aren’t a big deal in the game anymore but when you are at that level (I don’t need one I’m over 500k and my roster will Cope fine, might get round to ranking up a 4* rulk or Luke cage to swap for wolvie) but it is the mid range guys I feel will be hit hard here as has been said.

GroundedWisdom

kmbell81 wrote: »

Arttton wrote: »

Kabam Miike wrote: »

420sam wrote: »

So, you are making it more difficult yet not adjusting anything like rewards or even glory? Can I ask why? How does this benefit the players?

As we said in that post, we are working on a full refresh. We are not at a place or time where we can increase the rewards or fully refresh the mode right now.

If you are working on a full refresh than what is the point of this change again?

did the community ask for new bosses and sentinel addition?

can i have only one logical reason?

Money is the only reason for the change. They are trying to increase revenue.

Yes. That must be it. Anytime they make a change to add a new challenge, they're trying to milk people. It's not like the community asks for change, or people need to have new things to do to switch it up, or we need a change once in a while to grow. No, we must have the same content indefinitely so the Rewards are simple to get, and if they want us to try new things or improve, THEY must pay US.

-.-

DarkestDestroyer

BossyBuilder wrote: »

Firethumb_1 wrote: »

I'm sure a significant % of the player base use a5/50 Wolvie in aq to limit the items they use and so they should. Now low and behold sentinels arrive they're bleed immune and gain extra charges over mutant class... Funny that

I totally agree. Using Wolverine with an emphasis on "limiting item use". Guess what happens when we use items...$$$

Surprise, surprise.

But if you got a good Parry and intercepting game Wolvie will still get the job done... and regen.

DarkestDestroyer

kmbell81 wrote: »

Arttton wrote: »

Kabam Miike wrote: »

420sam wrote: »

So, you are making it more difficult yet not adjusting anything like rewards or even glory? Can I ask why? How does this benefit the players?

As we said in that post, we are working on a full refresh. We are not at a place or time where we can increase the rewards or fully refresh the mode right now.

If you are working on a full refresh than what is the point of this change again?

did the community ask for new bosses and sentinel addition?

can i have only one logical reason?

Money is the only reason for the change. They are trying to increase revenue.

I completely disagree, anyone who didn’t think AQ was ridiculously stale is strange.

Symboids were seriously annoying, changes were needed.

Liss_Bliss_

DarkestDestroyer wrote: »

kmbell81 wrote: »

Arttton wrote: »

Kabam Miike wrote: »

420sam wrote: »

So, you are making it more difficult yet not adjusting anything like rewards or even glory? Can I ask why? How does this benefit the players?

As we said in that post, we are working on a full refresh. We are not at a place or time where we can increase the rewards or fully refresh the mode right now.

If you are working on a full refresh than what is the point of this change again?

did the community ask for new bosses and sentinel addition?

can i have only one logical reason?

Money is the only reason for the change. They are trying to increase revenue.

I completely disagree, anyone who didn’t think AQ was ridiculously stale is strange.

Symboids were seriously annoying, changes were needed.

Yes they were stale, yes changes were needed. However changes should happen at once. Not give us one without the other. The other being better rewards as well.

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tutyimutyi

It was a time for changes,we were doing the same aq for too long and it was really boring.but to change it for much harder and to make wolverine and x-23 almost useless?is it a bad joke?it was already really annoying with 8-9k prestige.now the season is coming,when the alliances are going to push the aw and they will do map3.something wrong with the marketing,design and communication teams.big time

Rockon

All i can suggest is if changes are made without the thought of what the player base uses and we have to move at the pace of what kabam has designed and thought how a player whom plays all the time to move with the progression path but it effects most people do people move down, adapt or stop all together? the game is good but the flaws exist and still exist

Hemi_123

Right approach is they should introduce new champions first those are good encounter for these sentinels and minibosses and let us have them (most of us). Than go for what even you want to do. We worked on our current champions for years, Now they will become uselss. Aq is not like story quest that u will do it wheneven you will have good champions. Everyone is doing aq with whatever champion they have.

Nihung

Kabam Miike wrote: »

Summoners,

We've just announced a small refresh of Alliance Quests that will start April 2nd. This will include new Minibosses, and a farewell to our Symbioid friends!

Read all about it, then ask your questions!

@Kabam Miike , I play MCOC because it's fun, and a challenge. I even spend money because I know with enough practice I will beat bosses.

Adding Sentinel's in their current form is a bad move. While players may still use and buy revives now for their champs, this move will make it more unlikely. Playing Sentinels once in a while is OK. It's a challenge, but to have to play them over and over again is not fun. It's like having to face NightCrawler over and over again! Simply not fun.

You are taking the fun out of the game.

On a side note, you are destroying champs that can bleed, poison etc. Again, not fun.

DSPSAAB

Considering so much ups and downs of new little changes in AQ. I strongly believe to run free maps or remove the cost of maps for first two to three weeks... So that players can gage the difficulty level which is increased due to change of defenders. Reason for three weeks is that all alliances will be able to face all three mini bosses in this span. As you know it take high cost to run the maps, by keeping it free... Players will not be frustrated due non completion of map. @Kabam Miike @Kabam DK