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GOLD. Is it really an issue?

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  • Blax4everBlax4ever Posts: 683 ★★★
    @VandalSavage

    Did you leave a couple of zeroes off your gold total? For a little perspective I opened 351 arena crystals and I only broke even on gold. That’s 500k in Battle Chips

    There are people posting in this thread that have 10M+ in gold.

    It takes 2-3hrs per day just in the arena to accumulate about 3M in gold per month.
  • MightylibraMightylibra Posts: 185
    edited March 2018
    Riegel wrote: »
    Stara99 wrote: »
    Riegel wrote: »
    Stara99 wrote: »
    I’ll just agree with kabam miike’s statement. Everyone has a bottleneck. You lack gold but have the cats and basics. I’m swimming in gold with everything is ranked to at least 3/30 and about half of my 5* 2/35 or better but my problem is alphas/t4b. If everyone got what they wanted then everyone would be sitting with everything maxed and kabam making no money. We would then be without a game.

    Gold shouldn't be a rank up bottleneck as it isn't solely used for rank ups.

    Gold is a bottleneck because it’s used in many facets of the game.

    At work, a supervisor was conducting interviews for a position and one of the people who applied is a worker from another section that nobody that likes. But anyway, the first couple of people who rated higher than that work said no. Rather than get a new group of people to interview, he offered the position to that worker and he accepted.

    So for years, he bitched and moan about that worker. The worker is finally retiring this July.

    Bittersweet moment. The dynamics between whiney supervisor and his star employee is a constant source of entertainment for the rest us. Sad to see that go.

    The moral of the story is that the problems that people cry about is of their own making.

    The bottleneck in this game is by user's choice. The pretend-imbalance is by their own choosing.

    People work hard to get as many shards as possible (e.g. AW, alliance events). So they have a lot of heroes to upgrade.

    People go hard in AQ, cat arena, and daily quests so they have plenty of cats they can use to upgrade heroes.

    So what's left? Arenas? The effort is lacking while at the same time doing whatever it takes to spend the gold that they do get (e.g. league donations) because they go hard in AQ (e.g. map 6).

    I am "milestone chaser". All I do is enough to reach rank reward and that's it. I do it for all arenas except the 5-star arena. I have no plans to score a million for just 2 milestones. The total number of matches I do is 7 + 8 + 7 + 10 = 32 matches every 3 days plus the 30 for the tb4 arena plus 30 for the 2 sunday arenas. So a busy week is 92 matches.

    So this means for the weeks that don't have t4b arena, any matches above 62 goes towards paying for map 6.

    I have 37846 in gold but 91 arena crystals still to open and 988 ISOs to sell if needed and many are about to expire in 2 days. I get a lot of ISOs due to duping and monthly quests.

    And no heroes to upgrade because .... I'm waiting on cats. For instance, I have 2 t4b only.

    By my choice, I control the bottleneck. I can choose to go higher level maps and join alliances that have a better chance of completing them. But I don't. I don't want to spend any more effort than I do now. So my bottleneck is the cats.

    This is the same for everyone else. They can choose. And they did. They made a choice and falsely claim that all other options aren't options.

    Rather than accept the choices they made and the consequences that goes with it, they cry and falsely claim that there's an actual problem with the game.

    This was a lot of nonsense lol. Yeah you can spend yourself dry. That’s not the issue. I have 2.1mil gold, I have over 1500 iso I could sell, I have mats ready for my next rank 5 5*. I never put myself in a position of not having what I need. The problem is “the cost of living” is going up and the “star employee” is getting no raises.

    Again, poor analogy! Cost of living stays the same. It’s just star employee is getting richer because he works hard for it or he is CEO’s son. However, being rich, he has more demand for fancy new toys: fancy car, big house, pretty girlfriend, you name it. He just cannot afford them all at the same time. So he has two options; 1. Giving up one or two of his fancy collections 2. Work a bit harder and wait a bit longer so he can afford to pay for them all. It’s his choice and his choice alone.

    A regular employee are still happy with his Toyota Corolla and his desperate housewife.
  • NorthwestbrosefNorthwestbrosef Posts: 156
    tl;dr.

    I hate not having gold. I also hate doing arena. I understand it's a matter of how much time you're willing to put in, but here is my argument. I already invest a ton of time on this game between questing when I can and keeping up with aw and aq all day. I have a good job, so I'm not gonna sacrifice sleep and performance for a game. I don't have kids, which makes it a bit easier, but I have a girlfriend which is another time commitment that I'm not going to sacrifice. I get that the game is supposed to be a grind, but it's gotten to the point over the last 6 months or so now that I can rank up one 5* champion a month if I'm lucky, and it's purely a question of gold. I have so many t4 cats that I have stopped opening t4 class cat crystals, frag crystals, and map crystals. By the way, this hurts SA, but that's beside the point.

    So for those that didn't read all of this, the gist is that I am able to rank 1 5* a month if I'm lucky (just rank 1 time) and this influences who I decide to rank up. Which causes another problem: there will always be a stronger, better champion down the pipeline. So much more frustrating to rank a champ that is good, but a month later much less effective.
  • CoatHang3rCoatHang3r Posts: 4,965 ★★★★★
    _ASDF_ wrote: »
    Riegel wrote: »
    Riegel wrote: »
    Riegel wrote: »
    There is actually one way to partly fix the problem w/o Kabam intervention. Stop playing map 5 or higher.

    As I was growing tired of map 5 exploration and donation, I decided to quit and joined a semi retired alliance. We play map 3 instead of map 5. By doing so, I steadily gain 90k gold per week with very little effort. Also by reaching milestones in two 4* arena (about 100 rounds each 3 days or 1 hour of grinding per day) plus getting a little gold here and there, I get a total of 250k gold per week. With that amount, I would take me 2 weeks to R4 a 5* or 4 weeks to R5 a 5*. I think that’s fair and perfectly fit my game progression. It’s not like I need to rank every champs in my roster.

    However, for those who want to R5 a 5* in 48 hours, gold is a big issue, which can only solved by real $$$. I mean you can always buy gold with units, right?

    Playing less end game content isn't an option. I'd have to leave my alliance for that. Then when I was ready to come back there wouldn't be a spot or I might miss AW season rewards.

    Yes, making the gold crystal provide large sums of gold or have better drop rates is one way to fix the gold issue. It's probably the greediest, but I'd take anything.

    I wouldn’t call Map 5 and 6 end game content. And it’s not like such an alliance is not competent enough. My alliance is new but was climbing pretty fast in Aw season and now top 200-300 Gold 1.

    I concur that breaking into platinum is hard and requires hard core players, so if you want to be there with the top, you need to sacrifice something either time, $$$, gold or chance to rank up a champ quickly.

    Additionally, platinum or higher alliances only represent a tiny portion of community. Most of them have huge reserves or rich enough to not too worry about gold issue.

    Below platinum, unless you want to Rank Up every Howard the duck or Groot, gold is not a big issue either.

    Map 6 is end game content. It's not hard, but it is end game.

    My alliance is currently rank 3 in the world for AW. Many of us are broke out of our minds gold-wise.

    Well, there is the price for being at the top, folk!

    But you must understand that a few dozen of people from the very top alliances don’t represent the whole community. For hundreds of thousand others players, gold is not an issue. I used to have a reserve of 2M until I completed 5.3 and ranked up a few 5*. Why would Kabam make a change to comply with demand of the minority?

    You just said the top is rich now you are saying the top is the minority why listen to the top...

    This isn't about the top or the minority. This is an issue for anyone who wants to progress in any aspect of the game.

    Plz, do not take my words out of context.
    I said either...or... and when I said top, I refer to the top 300 alliances aka platinum brackets and higher because I know some of the guys who grind hard and have huge stash of gold.

    Your top is top 3 AW or Master class. That’s top top of the game, so you don’t represent the platinum brackets. And I said when you are at top 3, you must know more than anyone else the price you paid to be there.

    You said this is an issue for those who want to progress. Well, shortage of T4C, T4B, T1a, T2a is much more bigger issue for players from below the top. Do you know that Map 3 gives nearly 0 T4c shards. So while you guys at the top get a full t4c every week and still complain about gold shortage, other players must wait 2-3 months to get a full T4C if they get lucky. Should they demand Kabam the to increase drop rate for map 3 crystals? They want to progess too.

    Everything you said is irrational and illogical. Duh, map 3 gives no T4CCs. If you need T4CCs, do map 4+. Even running map 3 gives you glory and this gives you T4CCs. Shortage of T4B? Arena and glory weekly. Shortage of T1A? Glory and arena weekly. No shortage there. Try again. That was adorable.
    Wait what did you just turn the corner and admit arena is the go to place? Come off it.
  • MightylibraMightylibra Posts: 185
    _ASDF_ wrote: »
    Riegel wrote: »
    Riegel wrote: »
    Riegel wrote: »
    There is actually one way to partly fix the problem w/o Kabam intervention. Stop playing map 5 or higher.

    As I was growing tired of map 5 exploration and donation, I decided to quit and joined a semi retired alliance. We play map 3 instead of map 5. By doing so, I steadily gain 90k gold per week with very little effort. Also by reaching milestones in two 4* arena (about 100 rounds each 3 days or 1 hour of grinding per day) plus getting a little gold here and there, I get a total of 250k gold per week. With that amount, I would take me 2 weeks to R4 a 5* or 4 weeks to R5 a 5*. I think that’s fair and perfectly fit my game progression. It’s not like I need to rank every champs in my roster.

    However, for those who want to R5 a 5* in 48 hours, gold is a big issue, which can only solved by real $$$. I mean you can always buy gold with units, right?

    Playing less end game content isn't an option. I'd have to leave my alliance for that. Then when I was ready to come back there wouldn't be a spot or I might miss AW season rewards.

    Yes, making the gold crystal provide large sums of gold or have better drop rates is one way to fix the gold issue. It's probably the greediest, but I'd take anything.

    I wouldn’t call Map 5 and 6 end game content. And it’s not like such an alliance is not competent enough. My alliance is new but was climbing pretty fast in Aw season and now top 200-300 Gold 1.

    I concur that breaking into platinum is hard and requires hard core players, so if you want to be there with the top, you need to sacrifice something either time, $$$, gold or chance to rank up a champ quickly.

    Additionally, platinum or higher alliances only represent a tiny portion of community. Most of them have huge reserves or rich enough to not too worry about gold issue.

    Below platinum, unless you want to Rank Up every Howard the duck or Groot, gold is not a big issue either.

    Map 6 is end game content. It's not hard, but it is end game.

    My alliance is currently rank 3 in the world for AW. Many of us are broke out of our minds gold-wise.

    Well, there is the price for being at the top, folk!

    But you must understand that a few dozen of people from the very top alliances don’t represent the whole community. For hundreds of thousand others players, gold is not an issue. I used to have a reserve of 2M until I completed 5.3 and ranked up a few 5*. Why would Kabam make a change to comply with demand of the minority?

    You just said the top is rich now you are saying the top is the minority why listen to the top...

    This isn't about the top or the minority. This is an issue for anyone who wants to progress in any aspect of the game.

    Plz, do not take my words out of context.
    I said either...or... and when I said top, I refer to the top 300 alliances aka platinum brackets and higher because I know some of the guys who grind hard and have huge stash of gold.

    Your top is top 3 AW or Master class. That’s top top of the game, so you don’t represent the platinum brackets. And I said when you are at top 3, you must know more than anyone else the price you paid to be there.

    You said this is an issue for those who want to progress. Well, shortage of T4C, T4B, T1a, T2a is much more bigger issue for players from below the top. Do you know that Map 3 gives nearly 0 T4c shards. So while you guys at the top get a full t4c every week and still complain about gold shortage, other players must wait 2-3 months to get a full T4C if they get lucky. Should they demand Kabam the to increase drop rate for map 3 crystals? They want to progess too.

    Everything you said is irrational and illogical. Duh, map 3 gives no T4CCs. If you need T4CCs, do map 4+. Even running map 3 gives you glory and this gives you T4CCs. Shortage of T4B? Arena and glory weekly. Shortage of T1A? Glory and arena weekly. No shortage there. Try again. That was adorable.

    Did you follow the story here? You said short of gold, yet you pay 500k to run map 6, knowing full well that there is no gold in reward.

    I choose map 3 because I don’t want to donate gold while I can get gold with little effort. I’m willingly give up chance for catalyst.

    But you want to get full T4C AND gold. Should I ask the same thing as well?
  • MightylibraMightylibra Posts: 185
    _ASDF_ wrote: »
    _ASDF_ wrote: »
    Riegel wrote: »
    Riegel wrote: »
    Riegel wrote: »
    There is actually one way to partly fix the problem w/o Kabam intervention. Stop playing map 5 or higher.

    As I was growing tired of map 5 exploration and donation, I decided to quit and joined a semi retired alliance. We play map 3 instead of map 5. By doing so, I steadily gain 90k gold per week with very little effort. Also by reaching milestones in two 4* arena (about 100 rounds each 3 days or 1 hour of grinding per day) plus getting a little gold here and there, I get a total of 250k gold per week. With that amount, I would take me 2 weeks to R4 a 5* or 4 weeks to R5 a 5*. I think that’s fair and perfectly fit my game progression. It’s not like I need to rank every champs in my roster.

    However, for those who want to R5 a 5* in 48 hours, gold is a big issue, which can only solved by real $$$. I mean you can always buy gold with units, right?

    Playing less end game content isn't an option. I'd have to leave my alliance for that. Then when I was ready to come back there wouldn't be a spot or I might miss AW season rewards.

    Yes, making the gold crystal provide large sums of gold or have better drop rates is one way to fix the gold issue. It's probably the greediest, but I'd take anything.

    I wouldn’t call Map 5 and 6 end game content. And it’s not like such an alliance is not competent enough. My alliance is new but was climbing pretty fast in Aw season and now top 200-300 Gold 1.

    I concur that breaking into platinum is hard and requires hard core players, so if you want to be there with the top, you need to sacrifice something either time, $$$, gold or chance to rank up a champ quickly.

    Additionally, platinum or higher alliances only represent a tiny portion of community. Most of them have huge reserves or rich enough to not too worry about gold issue.

    Below platinum, unless you want to Rank Up every Howard the duck or Groot, gold is not a big issue either.

    Map 6 is end game content. It's not hard, but it is end game.

    My alliance is currently rank 3 in the world for AW. Many of us are broke out of our minds gold-wise.

    Well, there is the price for being at the top, folk!

    But you must understand that a few dozen of people from the very top alliances don’t represent the whole community. For hundreds of thousand others players, gold is not an issue. I used to have a reserve of 2M until I completed 5.3 and ranked up a few 5*. Why would Kabam make a change to comply with demand of the minority?

    You just said the top is rich now you are saying the top is the minority why listen to the top...

    This isn't about the top or the minority. This is an issue for anyone who wants to progress in any aspect of the game.

    Plz, do not take my words out of context.
    I said either...or... and when I said top, I refer to the top 300 alliances aka platinum brackets and higher because I know some of the guys who grind hard and have huge stash of gold.

    Your top is top 3 AW or Master class. That’s top top of the game, so you don’t represent the platinum brackets. And I said when you are at top 3, you must know more than anyone else the price you paid to be there.

    You said this is an issue for those who want to progress. Well, shortage of T4C, T4B, T1a, T2a is much more bigger issue for players from below the top. Do you know that Map 3 gives nearly 0 T4c shards. So while you guys at the top get a full t4c every week and still complain about gold shortage, other players must wait 2-3 months to get a full T4C if they get lucky. Should they demand Kabam the to increase drop rate for map 3 crystals? They want to progess too.

    Everything you said is irrational and illogical. Duh, map 3 gives no T4CCs. If you need T4CCs, do map 4+. Even running map 3 gives you glory and this gives you T4CCs. Shortage of T4B? Arena and glory weekly. Shortage of T1A? Glory and arena weekly. No shortage there. Try again. That was adorable.

    Did you follow the story here? You said short of gold, yet you pay 500k to run map 6, knowing full well that there is no gold in reward.

    I choose map 3 because I don’t want to donate gold while I can get gold with little effort. I’m willingly give up chance for catalyst.

    But you want to get full T4C AND gold. Should I ask the same thing as well?

    We’re running map 3 focusing on AW so that we can afford to rank up. Even without donations it’s taking weeks for most to rank up one defender. I’m not saying everyone or you has to do anything. But the fact is people who run map 6 have no other focus but grinding arena to afford it. Kudos to them. Map 3 gives you glory and intern access to ALL other rank up resources. Gold crystals are trash, drop rate is horrific. The point your missing is you can adjust game play without addition hours put in daily to focus on resources... EXCEPT for gold. And you can’t argue that.

    Gold crystals drop rate is horrific but map 3 crystals give access to all materials, lol.

    Wow, just wow! 99% of map 3 crystals are 300 T4b shards + 175 T1a shards. How long does it take to form a full one? You can do math, right?

    In exchange, gold reward for running map 3 is good. 90k per week + 100k from Aw if you do 3 wars per week. So it’s 190k gold alone from aw, aq. As such, you can easily gain 300k per week, so only need 2 weeks to R4 a 5*. It’s not like you get 4 t2a every 2 weeks, do you?

    If you want gold to rank your champ, stop doing map 5,6. If you want rare catalysts, forget about the gold. There are a lot of things I don’t like about kabam. Gold isn’t one of them. They have created a perfect balance here.
  • Atticus9090Atticus9090 Posts: 521 ★★
    Riegel wrote: »
    There have been a lot of posts on gold recently. I wanted to make a post that answers the question is gold a problem in MCOC. Let's get into it.

    Gold has recently become a huge topic in MCOC and it mainly is due to increasing cost to rank up champs that simply cost more to rank/level up. Is this the only issue? NO. Lets looks at the whole picture.

    Champion level and rank up costs:
    2* total cost ~54,000 gold to Level ---- 14,000 gold to Rank ---- 68,000 gold total
    3* total cost ~185,000 gold to Level --- 69,000 gold to Rank ---- 254,000 gold total (3.7x the cost of a 2*)
    4* total cost ~565,000 gold to Level --- 275,000 gold to Rank---- 840,000 gold total (3.3x the cost of a 3*)
    5* total cost ~1,600,000 gold to Level - 1,357,000 gold to Rank- 2,957,000 gold total (3.5x the cost of a 4*)
    6* total cost ~548,000 gold to Level 1-25 Rank 1. (529,173 gold to rank from R1 to R2.)

    Aq map cost weekly:
    Map 1 Cost 0 gold
    Map 2 Cost 0 gold
    Map 3 Cost 0 gold
    Map 4 Cost ???
    Map 5 Cost 134,000 gold & 42,000 BC (Exploration rewards: 97,500 gold & 33,375 BC)
    Map 5 actual cost: 36,500 gold & 8625 BC
    Map 6 Cost 500,000 gold & 83,500 BC (NO EXPLORATION REWARDS)
    Map 6 actual cost: 500,000 gold & 83,500 BC

    As you can see the cost of progression has skyrocketed, and there has been nothing to alleviate the gold struggle. It's only now coming to focus because of the cost of rank ups, but it would have got to this point with out 6*'s coming to the contest as well. GOLD IS AN ISSUE.

    No change has ever been made to gold since I started playing MCOC ~2.5 years ago. The gold crystal is still a joke, BC don't reward enough gold to make them worth while. donation wise it is better for me to donate someone elses BC in exchange for gold because I'll get more gold that way than opening the BC's themselves. Map 6 needs to have exploration rewards to allow top players to have a life, and alleviate some cost. Please don't add a map 7 with increased costs and no exploration rewards I'm dying here as is...

    I don't mind grinding I do ~300 rounds per arena, but I'm still not keeping up. @Kabam Miike @Kabam Zibiit @Kabam Wolf please halp. Increase gold gain somewhere I don't care where.

    I’m surprised no one flagged your Gold Topic Thread. Lol. The two that I have posted have gotten flagged at least once each time. Some people are very touchy about there gold
  • TruPacTruPac Posts: 7
    I haven't read through all the comments or suggestions, but when WILLPOWER got nerfed I felt that they should buff up the PITTANCE Mastery. I mean why not!??! 3 extra gold for a maxed out mastery..smh its not even worth mentioning being in a mastery, no one probably uses it...

  • charaderdude2charaderdude2 Posts: 1,530 ★★★
    Need to get popcorn,All I can say is,I'll run out of gold pretty soon
  • DaMunkDaMunk Posts: 1,883 ★★★★
    edited March 2018
    It sounds like the people short on gold either run map 6 constantly or don't grind arena enough. There's definitely a price to pay for map 6, that's just part of it, but pretty sure it's meant to be cost prohibitive. I don't see them changing that. As far as not grinding arena that's your choice, everyone else has to. I hate the grind but have plenty of gold. To be fair I get a considerable amount from selling ISO but that comes from dupes from the shards gained from....arena.
    All that said I feel your pain...not from gold but I suffer from t1a shortage. I buy 3 a week with glory. Not enough.
  • OzzieontOzzieont Posts: 237
    edited March 2018
    Never had a issue with gold nlmfsblj6mqq.jpeg

  • Speeds80Speeds80 Posts: 2,013 ★★★★
    I grind 3-4 hours a day and only do map5, it seems that’s about what I need to balance my other rankup resources, I seriously do question whether that is a reasonable amount of time required to keep up, and dread to think how much time is needed for the map 6 alliances , we all think they pilot because of the amount of time needed for map 6, but we have an ex member of core in our alliance and he quit because of the massive amount of grinding required just to keep up with gold and arena minimums, I’m not sure They need to pilot very often as they have to play arena like a full time job anyway. I’m still saving up for my r5 since I pulled blade weeks ago (in featured 5* crystals). my suggestion for kabam would be to increase the gold amount in the gold crystals to about triple what it is now, then people might actually consider spending units on them, another idea could be to make gold crystals more available in the glory store, max 5 every few days is about 15k of gold. That’s a pittance on what is actually required for any mid level rankup, and probably does highlight the disconnect here between what is offered and what is needed
  • fun fact, if you grind arena enough you realize gold isnt the limiting factor, t1a and t4b are. anyone putting enough time in the game can grind gold each day via battlechips, but theres only a limited amount of alphas and basics you can get to rank your 5* to r3+.
    id be happy to spend 200k gold for a single t1a in the shop, cause i can gain gold anytime.
    refusing to grind arena and complaining about a shortage in gold is like not playing aq and complaining about not getting enough t4cc
  • RiegelRiegel Posts: 1,088 ★★★★
    Deadly2016 wrote: »
    fun fact, if you grind arena enough you realize gold isnt the limiting factor, t1a and t4b are. anyone putting enough time in the game can grind gold each day via battlechips, but theres only a limited amount of alphas and basics you can get to rank your 5* to r3+.
    id be happy to spend 200k gold for a single t1a in the shop, cause i can gain gold anytime.
    refusing to grind arena and complaining about a shortage in gold is like not playing aq and complaining about not getting enough t4cc

    This statement is so wrong tho. I've posted a SS here already showing I do at min 300 rounds per arena. Thats 600 rounds a week. At that I am still not able to spend on rank ups. I'm not refusing to do arena. I'll say it again, I'm worried that a map 7 will come out which will cost even more, this will allow us to rank up our 6* which cost even more. The price of everything is going up, and the income of GOLD is staying the same. The only way to keep up is to sink more time. What is enough 500 rounds per arena? 750 rounds? 1000?
  • RixobRixob Posts: 505 ★★
    This is crazy, if i had made this post it would have been taken down within 10 minutes lol
  • Riegel wrote: »
    Deadly2016 wrote: »
    fun fact, if you grind arena enough you realize gold isnt the limiting factor...

    This statement is so wrong tho. I've posted a SS here already showing I do at min 300 rounds per arena. Thats 600 rounds a week. At that I am still not able to spend on rank ups. I'm not refusing to do arena. I'll say it again, I'm worried that a map 7 will come out which will cost even more, this will allow us to rank up our 6* which cost even more. The price of everything is going up, and the income of GOLD is staying the same. The only way to keep up is to sink more time. What is enough 500 rounds per arena? 750 rounds? 1000?
    not sure what you do, i go for top 10% in 2 arenas each time, have the gold to rank all my champs, donate my share and still grow my goldstack without even opening the gold/questcrystals.
    well maybe its due to the fact that i have all my 4* at r3+, all 1-2* maxed out and most of my 3* too leads me to the point of selling iso allot cause i cant get enough t1a/t4b to use the iso anywhere that i get way more gold then i need.
    i know there are stages in the development where your limited on gold, but believe me that stage will pass.
  • CoatHang3rCoatHang3r Posts: 4,965 ★★★★★
    Riegel wrote: »
    Deadly2016 wrote: »
    fun fact, if you grind arena enough you realize gold isnt the limiting factor, t1a and t4b are. anyone putting enough time in the game can grind gold each day via battlechips, but theres only a limited amount of alphas and basics you can get to rank your 5* to r3+.
    id be happy to spend 200k gold for a single t1a in the shop, cause i can gain gold anytime.
    refusing to grind arena and complaining about a shortage in gold is like not playing aq and complaining about not getting enough t4cc

    This statement is so wrong tho. I've posted a SS here already showing I do at min 300 rounds per arena. Thats 600 rounds a week. At that I am still not able to spend on rank ups. I'm not refusing to do arena. I'll say it again, I'm worried that a map 7 will come out which will cost even more, this will allow us to rank up our 6* which cost even more. The price of everything is going up, and the income of GOLD is staying the same. The only way to keep up is to sink more time. What is enough 500 rounds per arena? 750 rounds? 1000?
    Thats a bunch of BS you have done 42k arena fights over 2.5 years. Thats 14000 rounds or 60 per arena. You may have actually played arena this time but 300 is not a regular thing for you. You have enough arena wins to earn a measly 5mil in battle chips over your entire game life. And again map 6 is inteneded to be cost prohibitive.

    I am reminded of the time i watched a benz park and the driver proceeded to walk around the parking lot asking for money. Drop the act.
  • mum_m2mum_m2 Posts: 1,776 ★★★★
    They need to revise the in game economy. All the naysayers who say grind grind grind aren't looking at the big picture. There's never been a fix to the rising cost to play the game. there have been some minor tweaks like the AW skirmish rewards, but that isn't enough. Everyone gets to the point in this game where you start gathering more expensive resources than the lesser.

    I do believe they have their super awesome empirical data of excellence that details how the gold demand has shot up, and I do feel that they'll do something about it soon.

    This is what I can hope for

    Better gold crystals.
    Equal return for running AQ - even on map 5, 6, (and 7?). Yes EQUAL return. The fact that some people have to get up in the middle of the night to move more than accounts for our effort to earn those rewards.
    More gold from the 4* arena milestones.

    While we're at it. Please add Alpha fragments to the expert tier in AQ. just 100 is fine. It still wouldn't be enough but I'd be happy with 100
  • Hunter2UHunter2U Posts: 13
    Fact: The majority of the playerbase who Posts new threads on this Forum want an increase in Gold-rewards.
    Kabam should read their Forums and decide what to do. Thats the Point of the Forum; to bring up Feedback to the Company who produces the game. A reaction from Kabam to this would be appreciated by all Players. Doesn't matter what they decide, a reaction is appreciated.
  • MightylibraMightylibra Posts: 185
    edited March 2018
    _ASDF_ wrote: »
    Riegel wrote: »
    Riegel wrote: »
    Riegel wrote: »
    There is actually one way to partly fix the problem w/o Kabam intervention. Stop playing map 5 or higher.

    As I was growing tired of map 5 exploration and donation, I decided to quit and joined a semi retired alliance. We play map 3 instead of map 5. By doing so, I steadily gain 90k gold per week with very little effort. Also by reaching milestones in two 4* arena (about 100 rounds each 3 days or 1 hour of grinding per day) plus getting a little gold here and there, I get a total of 250k gold per week. With that amount, I would take me 2 weeks to R4 a 5* or 4 weeks to R5 a 5*. I think that’s fair and perfectly fit my game progression. It’s not like I need to rank every champs in my roster.

    However, for those who want to R5 a 5* in 48 hours, gold is a big issue, which can only solved by real $$$. I mean you can always buy gold with units, right?

    Playing less end game content isn't an option. I'd have to leave my alliance for that. Then when I was ready to come back there wouldn't be a spot or I might miss AW season rewards.

    Yes, making the gold crystal provide large sums of gold or have better drop rates is one way to fix the gold issue. It's probably the greediest, but I'd take anything.

    I wouldn’t call Map 5 and 6 end game content. And it’s not like such an alliance is not competent enough. My alliance is new but was climbing pretty fast in Aw season and now top 200-300 Gold 1.

    I concur that breaking into platinum is hard and requires hard core players, so if you want to be there with the top, you need to sacrifice something either time, $$$, gold or chance to rank up a champ quickly.

    Additionally, platinum or higher alliances only represent a tiny portion of community. Most of them have huge reserves or rich enough to not too worry about gold issue.

    Below platinum, unless you want to Rank Up every Howard the duck or Groot, gold is not a big issue either.

    Map 6 is end game content. It's not hard, but it is end game.

    My alliance is currently rank 3 in the world for AW. Many of us are broke out of our minds gold-wise.

    Well, there is the price for being at the top, folk!

    But you must understand that a few dozen of people from the very top alliances don’t represent the whole community. For hundreds of thousand others players, gold is not an issue. I used to have a reserve of 2M until I completed 5.3 and ranked up a few 5*. Why would Kabam make a change to comply with demand of the minority?

    You just said the top is rich now you are saying the top is the minority why listen to the top...

    This isn't about the top or the minority. This is an issue for anyone who wants to progress in any aspect of the game.

    Plz, do not take my words out of context.
    I said either...or... and when I said top, I refer to the top 300 alliances aka platinum brackets and higher because I know some of the guys who grind hard and have huge stash of gold.

    Your top is top 3 AW or Master class. That’s top top of the game, so you don’t represent the platinum brackets. And I said when you are at top 3, you must know more than anyone else the price you paid to be there.

    You said this is an issue for those who want to progress. Well, shortage of T4C, T4B, T1a, T2a is much more bigger issue for players from below the top. Do you know that Map 3 gives nearly 0 T4c shards. So while you guys at the top get a full t4c every week and still complain about gold shortage, other players must wait 2-3 months to get a full T4C if they get lucky. Should they demand Kabam the to increase drop rate for map 3 crystals? They want to progess too.

    Everything you said is irrational and illogical. Duh, map 3 gives no T4CCs. If you need T4CCs, do map 4+. Even running map 3 gives you glory and this gives you T4CCs. Shortage of T4B? Arena and glory weekly. Shortage of T1A? Glory and arena weekly. No shortage there. Try again. That was adorable.

    OP said he has 2.1M in his stash and has more than enough gold to R5 a 5* anytime he wants, yet he complained about lack of gold.

    This is kind of logic for you guys, smh!

    I’m done with this thread. It’s like arguing with bunch of spoiled kids who ‘s always crying to get what they want.
  • RiegelRiegel Posts: 1,088 ★★★★
    edited March 2018
    CoatHang3r wrote: »
    Haji_Saab wrote: »
    I don't understand the objections to having more gold in the game.

    If you have 50m gold, then more gold shouldn't affect you at all.
    Peole are arguing against welfare for people who run map 6 or refuse to play the game to EARN their rank ups.

    Not me.
  • SHIVTron_24SHIVTron_24 Posts: 6
    Probably a gold realm quest can b put up on a specific day every week like those catalysts ones.....would b a definite thing to do every week
  • RiegelRiegel Posts: 1,088 ★★★★
    CoatHang3r wrote: »
    Riegel wrote: »
    I'll say it again for the 10th time. I'm worried that a map 7 will come out which will cost even more, this will provide mats to rank up our 6* which cost even more. The price of everything is going up, and the income of GOLD is staying relatively the same.
    So the issue is you are afraid that something might happen (map7) without an increase in gold availability? That doesn’t support gold being an issue and is just an unfounded fear. What a waste of time.

    P.s. gold is more available and has increased. If you choose to trivialize and minimize that to support a victim mentality....

    1) Yes, progression of the game WILL happen, so it's not a "might happen."
    2) 6* are already here and cost more, so that's happening now.
    3) It does support gold being an issue.
    4) You're posts are a waste of time.
    5) Gold has not changed in any meaningful way.
    6) you say a lot of meaningless things for no reason. I don't have a victims mentality I'm simply stating gold is hard to keep up with and I'd like it not to get harder. :)
  • RiegelRiegel Posts: 1,088 ★★★★
    Probably a gold realm quest can b put up on a specific day every week like those catalysts ones.....would b a definite thing to do every week

    I like the idea of a gold arena. Could run along side the crystal cornucopia arenas. This way you still have to work for it, but it's there if you need it.
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