Alliance Quest Miniboss and Sentinel Refresh - April 2018 - Discussion Thread [Updated April 13]

Summoners,

We've just announced a small refresh of Alliance Quests that will start April 2nd. This will include new Minibosses, and a farewell to our Symbioid friends!

Read all about it, then ask your questions!

UPDATE:
We've just posted an update in regards to your feedback on Alliance Quests. This post includes some adjustments to Sentinels and Alliance Quests that will be coming with the next series (Starting April 18th). Take a look right here: http://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/62626/upcoming-adjustments-to-alliance-quests-april-18th-2018

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Il_JooO

Mcord117 wrote: »

Marine31_ wrote: »

So to boot all this the sentinals have 3rd specials wow you are absolutely unbelievable!!!

They said that they don’t. Did you fight one with an l3?

I did, they can do the L3

superunknown012

Marine31_ wrote: »

So to boot all this the sentinals have 3rd specials wow you are absolutely unbelievable!!!

Just because they have the third bar doesn't mean they can use it. They're just like fighting in heroic - sp3 disabled.

Some people just love to complain and jump at it every chance possible. How's that egg on your face bud?

butters

They use special 3 and I have had them put debuffs on me through blocks

Marine31_

Hahahaa yeah I guess you just fought the same fight I did where it was used you dipshit

Spurgeon14

573739 wrote: »

Had a unduped 5* 3/35 NC today as war boss. Backed him down into a corner (as usual) commenced with the process of switching him, only to have him drop his block (mid combo) and pop an SP1 on my SL. Needless to say NC is completely broken most of the time all the time 😂.

Sounds like he's operating as intended to me. 😉

Treo

Day one and lost a champ at first sentinel i encounter. Was this way in montly event with them ... hated them there .. will hate them here ... will hate the game more ... hate level going up ... enjoyment going down ... wonder when the scale will switch ...

SpiritOfVengeance

I still don't get it this is harder but we recieve the same rewards was it that hard to put in some more rewards? It aint fun like this.

TrendlyFynn

Kabam Miike wrote: »

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Ascoop24 wrote: »

Kabam Miike wrote: »

420sam wrote: »

So, you are making it more difficult yet not adjusting anything like rewards or even glory? Can I ask why? How does this benefit the players?

As we said in that post, we are working on a full refresh. We are not at a place or time where we can increase the rewards or fully refresh the mode right now.

If you aren't at a place or time to refresh the rewards then you shouldn't be at a place or time to refresh the difficulty. One should not go without the other. This is a great example of pure laziness

But how are you so sure that the difficulty has gotten worse?

Granted, Bleed and Poison champions may not be as effective in Alliance Quests as they were before, but Sentinels melt at the power of a Armor Break Champion, and a lot of the new Mini-Bosses have very common counters!

How many armor break champions have regen?

Marri

So, nobody told me that with these changes to AQ they would also make the AI super passive and extremely difficult to bait. I just did 2 fights and in both, unlike last week, they would just stare at my face. Not attack, no rushing in, so forget parrying, and intercepting is hard to if they just stand there.

Until you try to attack, that's when they punch you indaface.

Sentinel wasn't too bad, no worse or better than symbioids (so ar...), it's the AI that bothers me.

Mr_Otter

@Kabam Miike

A regen fiend Goblin you need more specialized counters for

Bleed immune needed for morning star

NC is bugged like fresh cow patties

Crit champs weakened overall

Armor break melts EVERYONE so saying sentinels are “weak” to them is like saying fire is hot.

And the sentinels can store an additional bar of power and if their awkward Sp2 isn’t a perfect evade you are likely out of 1 of your champions

HOW is this not a difficulty increase by even a little?!

KhanMedina

Is there an easy to access breakdown of the new sentinel abilities? I was just fighting the science one and got a bunch of weird looking debuffs applied to me when I hit him with a special.

Vince1976

Yarah_Dahile

Wow

TrendlyFynn wrote: »

Kabam Miike wrote: »

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Ascoop24 wrote: »

Kabam Miike wrote: »

420sam wrote: »

So, you are making it more difficult yet not adjusting anything like rewards or even glory? Can I ask why? How does this benefit the players?

As we said in that post, we are working on a full refresh. We are not at a place or time where we can increase the rewards or fully refresh the mode right now.

If you aren't at a place or time to refresh the rewards then you shouldn't be at a place or time to refresh the difficulty. One should not go without the other. This is a great example of pure laziness

But how are you so sure that the difficulty has gotten worse?

Granted, Bleed and Poison champions may not be as effective in Alliance Quests as they were before, but Sentinels melt at the power of a Armor Break Champion, and a lot of the new Mini-Bosses have very common counters!

How many armor break champions have regen?

Ironman, ultron and SIM from memory.

I wish I had a dupped one of those as 5 star!

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KhanMedina

Yarah_Dahile wrote: »

Wow

TrendlyFynn wrote: »

Kabam Miike wrote: »

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Ascoop24 wrote: »

Kabam Miike wrote: »

420sam wrote: »

So, you are making it more difficult yet not adjusting anything like rewards or even glory? Can I ask why? How does this benefit the players?

As we said in that post, we are working on a full refresh. We are not at a place or time where we can increase the rewards or fully refresh the mode right now.

If you aren't at a place or time to refresh the rewards then you shouldn't be at a place or time to refresh the difficulty. One should not go without the other. This is a great example of pure laziness

But how are you so sure that the difficulty has gotten worse?

Granted, Bleed and Poison champions may not be as effective in Alliance Quests as they were before, but Sentinels melt at the power of a Armor Break Champion, and a lot of the new Mini-Bosses have very common counters!

How many armor break champions have regen?

Ironman, ultron and SIM from memory.

I wish I had a dupped one of those as 5 star!

Ultron (MCU) does not. IP does. King Groot and DS do also.

RawInstinct

All I can say is get ready for a lot of people leaving the game most wont even care about the rewards anymore

Primmer79

just used x23 on the first sentinel. Not bad. Pushed him to 3 bars of power and he used sp2 twice. Longer fight than I normally see on Day 1 though.

KhanMedina

RawInstinct wrote: »

All I can say is get ready for a lot of people leaving the game most wont even care about the rewards anymore

This is exactly how I felt after my first couple of fights against these new additions. Symbioids were used as rest stops before. Now these are the most annoying fights. This does not encourage me to play more or spend at all.

Madman_marvin

KhanMedina wrote: »

Is there an easy to access breakdown of the new sentinel abilities? I was just fighting the science one and got a bunch of weird looking debuffs applied to me when I hit him with a special.

Yarah_Dahile

KhanMedina wrote: »

Yarah_Dahile wrote: »

Wow

TrendlyFynn wrote: »

Kabam Miike wrote: »

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Ascoop24 wrote: »

Kabam Miike wrote: »

420sam wrote: »

So, you are making it more difficult yet not adjusting anything like rewards or even glory? Can I ask why? How does this benefit the players?

As we said in that post, we are working on a full refresh. We are not at a place or time where we can increase the rewards or fully refresh the mode right now.

If you aren't at a place or time to refresh the rewards then you shouldn't be at a place or time to refresh the difficulty. One should not go without the other. This is a great example of pure laziness

But how are you so sure that the difficulty has gotten worse?

Granted, Bleed and Poison champions may not be as effective in Alliance Quests as they were before, but Sentinels melt at the power of a Armor Break Champion, and a lot of the new Mini-Bosses have very common counters!

How many armor break champions have regen?

Ironman, ultron and SIM from memory.

I wish I had a dupped one of those as 5 star!

Ultron (MCU) does not. IP does. King Groot and DS do also.

My mistake on ultron. I must have been thinking of armour up.thought I saw him armour break once

GroundedWisdom

RawInstinct wrote: »

All I can say is get ready for a lot of people leaving the game most wont even care about the rewards anymore

If people are going to leave the game because something is new and more challenging, they're not going to last the long haul either way.

Yarah_Dahile

KhanMedina wrote: »

RawInstinct wrote: »

All I can say is get ready for a lot of people leaving the game most wont even care about the rewards anymore

This is exactly how I felt after my first couple of fights against these new additions. Symbioids were used as rest stops before. Now these are the most annoying fights. This does not encourage me to play more or spend at all.

They use to be my easy recharge points.

Northwestbrosef

Well, I suppose my favorite champion (x23) and wolverine, both rank 5 4* champs, have now been relegated to the monthly quest. Looks like I'll be ranking superior iron man back to rank 5 after I used my one rank down ticket to take him down...

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KhanMedina

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

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RawInstinct wrote: »

All I can say is get ready for a lot of people leaving the game most wont even care about the rewards anymore

If people are going to leave the game because something is new and more challenging, they're not going to last the long haul either way.

What a surprise, you've once again attacked the fan base for having a problem with something Kabam did. I'm seriously shocked this time.

GroundedWisdom

KhanMedina wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

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RawInstinct wrote: »

All I can say is get ready for a lot of people leaving the game most wont even care about the rewards anymore

If people are going to leave the game because something is new and more challenging, they're not going to last the long haul either way.

What a surprise, you've once again attacked the fan base for having a problem with something Kabam did. I'm seriously shocked this time.

That's not an attack. Someone mentioned people quitting. If they choose to quit, that's up to them, but if people are going to quit because something new is added, they're probably not going to last. The game is always changing, so it's inevitable. It's only hard because it's new. It will be new until we get used to fighting them. Really not the be-all-end-all.

Oneslydogg

Where was the beta testing on these sentinels? How did the testers do on day 5 against these sentinels?

You can’t go from symbiods which were basically a punching bag, to sentinels and expect everyone to be excited about it.

The sentinels need to be nerfed, big time. If you had beta tested this, you’d already know that. Wake up!

AntHalliday81

So despite the huge negative reaction to this update you went ahead and pushed it through anyway, bravo kabam you sure know how to kill your own game

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