Alliance Quest Miniboss and Sentinel Refresh - April 2018 - Discussion Thread [Updated April 13]

Summoners,

We've just announced a small refresh of Alliance Quests that will start April 2nd. This will include new Minibosses, and a farewell to our Symbioid friends!

Read all about it, then ask your questions!

UPDATE:
We've just posted an update in regards to your feedback on Alliance Quests. This post includes some adjustments to Sentinels and Alliance Quests that will be coming with the next series (Starting April 18th). Take a look right here: http://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/62626/upcoming-adjustments-to-alliance-quests-april-18th-2018

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Vince1976

Yarah_Dahile

Wow

TrendlyFynn wrote: »

Kabam Miike wrote: »

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Ascoop24 wrote: »

Kabam Miike wrote: »

420sam wrote: »

So, you are making it more difficult yet not adjusting anything like rewards or even glory? Can I ask why? How does this benefit the players?

As we said in that post, we are working on a full refresh. We are not at a place or time where we can increase the rewards or fully refresh the mode right now.

If you aren't at a place or time to refresh the rewards then you shouldn't be at a place or time to refresh the difficulty. One should not go without the other. This is a great example of pure laziness

But how are you so sure that the difficulty has gotten worse?

Granted, Bleed and Poison champions may not be as effective in Alliance Quests as they were before, but Sentinels melt at the power of a Armor Break Champion, and a lot of the new Mini-Bosses have very common counters!

How many armor break champions have regen?

Ironman, ultron and SIM from memory.

I wish I had a dupped one of those as 5 star!

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KhanMedina

Yarah_Dahile wrote: »

Wow

TrendlyFynn wrote: »

Kabam Miike wrote: »

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Ascoop24 wrote: »

Kabam Miike wrote: »

420sam wrote: »

So, you are making it more difficult yet not adjusting anything like rewards or even glory? Can I ask why? How does this benefit the players?

As we said in that post, we are working on a full refresh. We are not at a place or time where we can increase the rewards or fully refresh the mode right now.

If you aren't at a place or time to refresh the rewards then you shouldn't be at a place or time to refresh the difficulty. One should not go without the other. This is a great example of pure laziness

But how are you so sure that the difficulty has gotten worse?

Granted, Bleed and Poison champions may not be as effective in Alliance Quests as they were before, but Sentinels melt at the power of a Armor Break Champion, and a lot of the new Mini-Bosses have very common counters!

How many armor break champions have regen?

Ironman, ultron and SIM from memory.

I wish I had a dupped one of those as 5 star!

Ultron (MCU) does not. IP does. King Groot and DS do also.

RawInstinct

All I can say is get ready for a lot of people leaving the game most wont even care about the rewards anymore

Primmer79

just used x23 on the first sentinel. Not bad. Pushed him to 3 bars of power and he used sp2 twice. Longer fight than I normally see on Day 1 though.

KhanMedina

RawInstinct wrote: »

All I can say is get ready for a lot of people leaving the game most wont even care about the rewards anymore

This is exactly how I felt after my first couple of fights against these new additions. Symbioids were used as rest stops before. Now these are the most annoying fights. This does not encourage me to play more or spend at all.

Madman_marvin

KhanMedina wrote: »

Is there an easy to access breakdown of the new sentinel abilities? I was just fighting the science one and got a bunch of weird looking debuffs applied to me when I hit him with a special.

Yarah_Dahile

KhanMedina wrote: »

Yarah_Dahile wrote: »

Wow

TrendlyFynn wrote: »

Kabam Miike wrote: »

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Ascoop24 wrote: »

Kabam Miike wrote: »

420sam wrote: »

So, you are making it more difficult yet not adjusting anything like rewards or even glory? Can I ask why? How does this benefit the players?

As we said in that post, we are working on a full refresh. We are not at a place or time where we can increase the rewards or fully refresh the mode right now.

If you aren't at a place or time to refresh the rewards then you shouldn't be at a place or time to refresh the difficulty. One should not go without the other. This is a great example of pure laziness

But how are you so sure that the difficulty has gotten worse?

Granted, Bleed and Poison champions may not be as effective in Alliance Quests as they were before, but Sentinels melt at the power of a Armor Break Champion, and a lot of the new Mini-Bosses have very common counters!

How many armor break champions have regen?

Ironman, ultron and SIM from memory.

I wish I had a dupped one of those as 5 star!

Ultron (MCU) does not. IP does. King Groot and DS do also.

My mistake on ultron. I must have been thinking of armour up.thought I saw him armour break once

GroundedWisdom

RawInstinct wrote: »

All I can say is get ready for a lot of people leaving the game most wont even care about the rewards anymore

If people are going to leave the game because something is new and more challenging, they're not going to last the long haul either way.

Yarah_Dahile

KhanMedina wrote: »

RawInstinct wrote: »

All I can say is get ready for a lot of people leaving the game most wont even care about the rewards anymore

This is exactly how I felt after my first couple of fights against these new additions. Symbioids were used as rest stops before. Now these are the most annoying fights. This does not encourage me to play more or spend at all.

They use to be my easy recharge points.

Northwestbrosef

Well, I suppose my favorite champion (x23) and wolverine, both rank 5 4* champs, have now been relegated to the monthly quest. Looks like I'll be ranking superior iron man back to rank 5 after I used my one rank down ticket to take him down...

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KhanMedina

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

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RawInstinct wrote: »

All I can say is get ready for a lot of people leaving the game most wont even care about the rewards anymore

If people are going to leave the game because something is new and more challenging, they're not going to last the long haul either way.

What a surprise, you've once again attacked the fan base for having a problem with something Kabam did. I'm seriously shocked this time.

GroundedWisdom

KhanMedina wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

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RawInstinct wrote: »

All I can say is get ready for a lot of people leaving the game most wont even care about the rewards anymore

If people are going to leave the game because something is new and more challenging, they're not going to last the long haul either way.

What a surprise, you've once again attacked the fan base for having a problem with something Kabam did. I'm seriously shocked this time.

That's not an attack. Someone mentioned people quitting. If they choose to quit, that's up to them, but if people are going to quit because something new is added, they're probably not going to last. The game is always changing, so it's inevitable. It's only hard because it's new. It will be new until we get used to fighting them. Really not the be-all-end-all.

Oneslydogg

Where was the beta testing on these sentinels? How did the testers do on day 5 against these sentinels?

You can’t go from symbiods which were basically a punching bag, to sentinels and expect everyone to be excited about it.

The sentinels need to be nerfed, big time. If you had beta tested this, you’d already know that. Wake up!

AntHalliday81

So despite the huge negative reaction to this update you went ahead and pushed it through anyway, bravo kabam you sure know how to kill your own game

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Jaffacaked

Spidergwen the next AQ god

Speeds80

Dear gw, you and the mods are the only people stupid enough to be tying to say these aren’t harder. Let’s define harder, more hits to kill, and specials that are harder to evade and damage you through block... in no way easier... =harder

Sempaidavid

Congratulation to Kabam for finding a way to make an update to AQ that literally no one wanted. This update doesn’t do anything to make it more interesting or fun. It merely makes champs that we invested in near worthless. I see a lot of 1 star reviews hitting the App Store over this.

GroverBoys2

Sentinals are a horrible idea. #Retiring

Spurgeon14

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

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RawInstinct wrote: »

All I can say is get ready for a lot of people leaving the game most wont even care about the rewards anymore

If people are going to leave the game because something is new and more challenging, they're not going to last the long haul either way.

I definitely don't think people will leave over this. But if they do, oh well.

DNA3000

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

It's only hard because it's new.

Its harder because it is harder. It would be an exaggeration to say tons of people are going to quit over it, but anyone who thinks Sentinels are not harder than Syms either has a very peculiar psychological aversion to Syms or has no idea how to judge difficulty in the game. And I say that without exempting the developers from that statement.

TeeJayFlash

This is a joke and a slap in the face.. Sentinels are way more annoying/difficult to fight than the Symbiotes and the same can be said about the new mini bosses...So Kabam had the ability to make character changes but NOT the ABILITY to make reward adjustments? My BS flag is at full mast right now

GroundedWisdom

DNA3000 wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

It's only hard because it's new.

Its harder because it is harder. It would be an exaggeration to say tons of people are going to quit over it, but anyone who thinks Sentinels are not harder than Syms either has a very peculiar psychological aversion to Syms or has no idea how to judge difficulty in the game. And I say that without exempting the developers from that statement.

The point I'm trying to bring home is we will adjust, and it doesn't usually take that long.

Wagar

Honestly, replacing symbiods (that power to an L2 max) with sentinels (that have a L3 attack) is just another way to get us to use our resources and drain us of units! The sentinels are already tougher than symbiods - and do not bleed.

For as long as Ive been playing games, Ive never seen a programmer that seeks to make the game worse, not better - and their customers more pissed off, not happier...

until I found Kabam!!

SpiritOfVengeance

Wait a second has no one thought of this yet? Guys think about it with the AQ before the changes people could bring champs like ghost rider or the god tiers right? With the new 5 star featured they contain champs who people use most often in AQ and AW so this sentinel change just changed our teams around so that those same god tiers have less use in AQ.

Everything makes so much sense now.

Cool_Jam_AST

It sucks, congratulations Kabam for ruining the game.

Speeds80

Baiting builds analysis, that powergain path is gonna be ridiculous on day 5, 4 hits and bait l1, repeat until timeout