Alliance Quest Miniboss and Sentinel Refresh - April 2018 - Discussion Thread [Updated April 13]

Summoners,

We've just announced a small refresh of Alliance Quests that will start April 2nd. This will include new Minibosses, and a farewell to our Symbioid friends!

Read all about it, then ask your questions!

UPDATE:
We've just posted an update in regards to your feedback on Alliance Quests. This post includes some adjustments to Sentinels and Alliance Quests that will be coming with the next series (Starting April 18th). Take a look right here: http://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/62626/upcoming-adjustments-to-alliance-quests-april-18th-2018

Comments

Jaffacaked

Spidergwen the next AQ god

Speeds80

Dear gw, you and the mods are the only people stupid enough to be tying to say these aren’t harder. Let’s define harder, more hits to kill, and specials that are harder to evade and damage you through block... in no way easier... =harder

Sempaidavid

Congratulation to Kabam for finding a way to make an update to AQ that literally no one wanted. This update doesn’t do anything to make it more interesting or fun. It merely makes champs that we invested in near worthless. I see a lot of 1 star reviews hitting the App Store over this.

GroverBoys2

Sentinals are a horrible idea. #Retiring

Spurgeon14

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

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RawInstinct wrote: »

All I can say is get ready for a lot of people leaving the game most wont even care about the rewards anymore

If people are going to leave the game because something is new and more challenging, they're not going to last the long haul either way.

I definitely don't think people will leave over this. But if they do, oh well.

DNA3000

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

It's only hard because it's new.

Its harder because it is harder. It would be an exaggeration to say tons of people are going to quit over it, but anyone who thinks Sentinels are not harder than Syms either has a very peculiar psychological aversion to Syms or has no idea how to judge difficulty in the game. And I say that without exempting the developers from that statement.

TeeJayFlash

This is a joke and a slap in the face.. Sentinels are way more annoying/difficult to fight than the Symbiotes and the same can be said about the new mini bosses...So Kabam had the ability to make character changes but NOT the ABILITY to make reward adjustments? My BS flag is at full mast right now

GroundedWisdom

DNA3000 wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

It's only hard because it's new.

Its harder because it is harder. It would be an exaggeration to say tons of people are going to quit over it, but anyone who thinks Sentinels are not harder than Syms either has a very peculiar psychological aversion to Syms or has no idea how to judge difficulty in the game. And I say that without exempting the developers from that statement.

The point I'm trying to bring home is we will adjust, and it doesn't usually take that long.

Wagar

Honestly, replacing symbiods (that power to an L2 max) with sentinels (that have a L3 attack) is just another way to get us to use our resources and drain us of units! The sentinels are already tougher than symbiods - and do not bleed.

For as long as Ive been playing games, Ive never seen a programmer that seeks to make the game worse, not better - and their customers more pissed off, not happier...

until I found Kabam!!

SpiritOfVengeance

Wait a second has no one thought of this yet? Guys think about it with the AQ before the changes people could bring champs like ghost rider or the god tiers right? With the new 5 star featured they contain champs who people use most often in AQ and AW so this sentinel change just changed our teams around so that those same god tiers have less use in AQ.

Everything makes so much sense now.

Cool_Jam_AST

It sucks, congratulations Kabam for ruining the game.

Speeds80

Baiting builds analysis, that powergain path is gonna be ridiculous on day 5, 4 hits and bait l1, repeat until timeout

TeeJayFlash

....side note.....Sentinels cannot use the L3 but......but....if you push them to the L3 they will do a L2 and have L1 loaded and ready for your A$$.....

Carmel1

anyone else think they (kabam) put this thread on "mute"?
"If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?"
the answer is yes

Yarah_Dahile

TeeJayFlash wrote: »

....side note.....Sentinels cannot use the L3 but......but....if you push them to the L3 they will do a L2 and have L1 loaded and ready for your A$$.....

Had a moment of not thinking. Sp2 to the face followed by an sp1. Yeah.... it was a bad news story

DocStrange

To all of you guys freaking out about these Sentinels:

Use Quake. She destroys them.

MPIJLM

Don't know if this has been asked all ready. Any chance on bringing rankdown tickets back after this change?
Wolvie kinda got useless against these Sentinels.

Thanks for the consideration in advance.

TeeJayFlash

DocStrange wrote: »

To all of you guys freaking out about these Sentinels:

Use Quake. She destroys them.

I have Quake as a 4* r5 sig 99 ....fine for me, all of my alliance members cant say the same not to mention not everyone is comfortable fighting 'Quake style' of course she is not the only option...my issue is the fact that we have to make major changes in how we approach AQ for the same rewards..NOT COOL

DocStrange

TeeJayFlash wrote: »

DocStrange wrote: »

To all of you guys freaking out about these Sentinels:

Use Quake. She destroys them.

I have Quake as a 4* r5 sig 99 ....fine for me, all of my alliance members cant say the same not to mention not everyone is comfortable fighting 'Quake style' of course she is not the only option...my issue is the fact that we have to make major changes in how we approach AQ for the same rewards..NOT COOL

I agree about the rewards. Not cool at all considering you can’t just throw an immune champ in with whatever 2 other champs you want into map 5 anymore. Now more specific options have to be considered. Which will be tough for many when running AW at the same time

TeeJayFlash

DocStrange wrote: »

TeeJayFlash wrote: »

DocStrange wrote: »

To all of you guys freaking out about these Sentinels:

Use Quake. She destroys them.

I have Quake as a 4* r5 sig 99 ....fine for me, all of my alliance members cant say the same not to mention not everyone is comfortable fighting 'Quake style' of course she is not the only option...my issue is the fact that we have to make major changes in how we approach AQ for the same rewards..NOT COOL

I agree about the rewards. Not cool at all considering you can’t just throw an immune champ in with whatever 2 other champs you want into map 5 anymore. Now more specific options have to be considered. Which will be tough for many when running AW at the same time

EXACTLY!!!!

CiruxxX1o83

Well, here's from someone that JUST found out how difficult it is: A LOT MORE!
And don't give me the "Sentinels melt at the power of a Armor Break Champion..." What about that annoying "purification"? Won't that get rid of any armor break effects? Won't that basically get rid of ANY DEBUFF effect?
So, YES you made it more difficult, NO, of course you're not in a place or time to revamp the whole thing, just the difficulty, which will conveniently make us players spend more units and items in each AQ.

Thank you Kabam, you did it again

Treo

I just don’t like the fact that all of a sudden a lot of champs on the map are now bleed and posion immune and need a high crit champ to do real damage or power control to get them in line ... I don’t get how this helps in diversifying the feel when it narrows the possible champs ... same with the bosses ... how many champs can take on Morningstar ?... sure it still is a few ... but it narrows the field ... sure it makes you bring other champions ... and yes with that I don’t have a problem ... but there are other acts to do that ... it now feels like ah we found our way ... let’s change everything ... instead of building on what is already there ...

Thatweirdguy

Carmel1 wrote: »

anyone else think they (kabam) put this thread on "mute"?
"If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?"
the answer is yes

I mean what are they going to say? :
"We didn't do this to increase potion sales?" "We are not ready for a full refresh so rewards stay the same." "We do not believe that these fights are harder." "You will adjust to these changes." "Some players like the refresh and do not feel there is a difficulty increase."

You'll not get any satisfaction from the mods. They have been told what to say and they have said it. This is just the way they want it.

IndridCold

Kabam Miike wrote: »

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Ascoop24 wrote: »

Kabam Miike wrote: »

420sam wrote: »

So, you are making it more difficult yet not adjusting anything like rewards or even glory? Can I ask why? How does this benefit the players?

As we said in that post, we are working on a full refresh. We are not at a place or time where we can increase the rewards or fully refresh the mode right now.

If you aren't at a place or time to refresh the rewards then you shouldn't be at a place or time to refresh the difficulty. One should not go without the other. This is a great example of pure laziness

But how are you so sure that the difficulty has gotten worse?

Granted, Bleed and Poison champions may not be as effective in Alliance Quests as they were before, but Sentinels melt at the power of a Armor Break Champion, and a lot of the new Mini-Bosses have very common counters!

well. Previous Map 5 mini bosses are now in map 4 & 3. The new minibosses used to be isolated to Alliance War Fights, so the very common counters could be saved for that. Now ppl without 1 version of the counter are at a clear disadvantage to ppl with 4 & 5* versions.

In the last year you’ve doubled the amount of champs immune to bleed. Now you’ve replaced half of the AQ fights with sentinels. It seems like you’re decreasing the value of Deep Wounds to create demand for a new mastery.

Dale_Dobac

RIP Wolverine. You served me well. I’ll see you in arenas big guy. Useless everywhere else now.

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kmbell81

573739 wrote: »

Kabam Miike wrote: »

Jaded wrote: »

See what they are doing?
Make people think where they want to put their blade/gr/starky. Aq or aw...?
But valid point @Kabam Miike will sentinels have 3rd specials activated?

Sentinels will not have their Special 3 active

So then why do they have three bars available in AQ? If you want to make it obvious they don’t use an sp3 why not just take the bar out entirely?

That way, the Sentinel can whack you with a special 2 and whack you again with a Special 1. Then, your champ is dead and you are wondering what just happened.

NragedSixx

Well one our alliance members just fought a sentinel in aq and it used it's l3 on him. Hmmmm why does kabam constantly think up new ways to make the community aka their cash cow mad? How is it possible to make a partial change to the game that only benefits kabam. Money grab on their part. Not everyone has the resources or the right champs to just rank up.

Karakanli

I just experienced a mystic Sentinel constantly rapidfireing SP2 on me for about 30 seconds.

He had 20+x analysis points and kept on powergaining After his sp2 till all bars were filled and horray here comes the next sp2 and so on...

Of course after the SP2 No. 6 in a row- I could make exactly 0 moves during that time- my R5 4* X23 was down though she was at full Health before that massacre.

Thats a bug or a feature?!?

Crine60

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I just experienced a mystic Sentinel constantly rapidfireing SP2 on me for about 30 seconds.

He had 20+x analysis points and kept on powergaining After his sp2 till all bars were filled and horray here comes the next sp2 and so on...

Of course after the SP2 No. 6 in a row- I could make exactly 0 moves during that time- my R5 4* X23 was down though she was at full Health before that massacre.

Thats a bug or a feature?!?

Mystics gain power when a buff expires according to that chart so using x-23 with regen and possibly dodging back with dexterity sounds like a feature. It sucks but sounds intentional.