Alliance Quest Miniboss and Sentinel Refresh - April 2018 - Discussion Thread [Updated April 13]

Summoners,

We've just announced a small refresh of Alliance Quests that will start April 2nd. This will include new Minibosses, and a farewell to our Symbioid friends!

Read all about it, then ask your questions!

UPDATE:
We've just posted an update in regards to your feedback on Alliance Quests. This post includes some adjustments to Sentinels and Alliance Quests that will be coming with the next series (Starting April 18th). Take a look right here: http://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/62626/upcoming-adjustments-to-alliance-quests-april-18th-2018

Comments

Maverick75

Good game Kabam ! You’re killing your game.

As a company, the goal is to get and increase benefits.
That’s ok.

How ?
By increasing objects use and selling more crystals.

AW don’t make enough money ?
Make players use more in an AW season, where all players must participate for more points and where players must heal to reduce KO that can decide a defeat or a victory.
To sell more champion crystals, diversity is introduced and can also decide a victory.

What about AQ ?
Players have habits and more powerful champions.
Let’s change basic enemy (symbioids) for more powerful with more difficult buffs, and change mini-boss for more difficult too. There will be more used objects.

Players don’t like the new system ?
Just quit the game or don’t play in high level (I didn’t mean the elite).

Well some of us took these decisions. My 3-year alliance (11m) is loosing 5 players at the end of this AQ serie. Like some other teams.

Maybe one day kabam will understand that some players and alliances are just interested in playing together with a decent challenge, not for the contest above all. Without them the contest will be more reduced.

Midnightfox

At this point unless they want to kill the game then kabam needs to rescind the changes or increase rewards. This was a horrible rollout.

Speeds80

They need tweaking, the mystic dispersion shouldn’t work that much, they shouldn’t be on powergain node and charges shouldn’t build up for swiping back. Plus their counters medusa and nebula aren’t working properly. There shouldn’t be this many identical fights in each day of aq, clumsy rollout as usual kabam, majorly fix them or take them away

Nathanparker

My alliance is running map 5 every day, that's what we have done since 8 or 9 months, and in the course of this months alliance quest have change, so, why is everybody geeting so angry now? simple, the state of the game, the lag, the missing hits, the poor state of parry, the lack of response when dashing back/foward. We have to change our champs according to the new meta and get used to fighting centinels, yes, you are right on that, but it is imposible to do this if the game doesnt respond the way it should, I lost a lot of health on my champs because the game doesnt respond the way it should, so either I get hit or I lost health by blocking.
I can't speak for everybody else, I can only speak out of my own personal experience on the game an if somebody has no issues with the game I'm glad for you, but some of us have it bad, so I hope kabam stop delaying a solution, some need more content, I need the game to get fixed, it's getting really unplayable

Legendsend

I just don't understand the minimal changes for the elite who have all the characters and perks and whatnot but such a drastic change for everyone else... Map 6 doesn't have sentinels and come on now... void is easy as hell to beat and so for ppl doing map 6 who already have such a diverse character database, they should have no problem with this minimal change but for everyone else there is a lot more to deal with... Why such a minimal change for map 6 but such an outrageous change for all other maps that will include the less fortunate? I would love to know the reasoning.

Ruhengeri

I like the game overall but! Sentinels in aq are a terrible idea without better rewards! That aside, They’re too defensive! There is nothing more frustrating then fighting an enemy that will keep blocking until they get unblockable specials...I don’t like the new aq update at all. In my view it is unfair to the player base to increase difficulty without increasing rewards to compensate.
It would have been better to leave the game as is was if you weren’t ready to increase rewards.

**Proposed solution: Remove the sentinels or increase rewards or both!

HomerJBond

I wanted to take the time to add that the Sentinels are not fun to play and the laggy misqueued control in this game has it to the point where it’s not even fun. That’s all I hear anymore is that the game is ruined.

It started with a brilliant design years ago. What happened?!? So many bad decisions

miracle85

You guys need to do something with the lag or nerf the sentenils a little bit and what happens to no 3rd special are you guys blind

Speeds80

Yeah we’ve got guys slacking in aq, morale is down, if my alliance folds over this bs I can tell you most of our spenders will just leave the game, the alliance that has been functioning well is what keeps most of them in the game, most of our leaders have acknowledged that they wouldn’t still be here if it wasn’t for the alliance, and if we have to do another rebuild, we will just retire, to have to drop right back to map 3 is just a kick in the balls, rankup progression has gotten slow enough as it is, and as mentioned many times before the gameplay is a pile of **** right now, evades not working, blocks not working, lags, getting stuck to the ground when we swipe, if I get a battery notification in my phone, there’s is a 20 second lag before gameplay will start again at the moment. too much all at once, this needs urgent attention, I seriously worry for the future of the game

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ChefSkallywag

Map 5 day 4. I am used to running the immune lane. The Skill Sentinels make it impossible. Just lost my entire team to the first one. I quit

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kbean3

Not everyone in every alliance has the right champs to deal with sentinels, but every line in AQ has one or multiple sentinels.
For us to rank up champs that may be effective against sentinels, we need a lot of resources (gold, iso, t4b, t4c) and those take several months and a lot of money and grinding. So when the sentinels drop like this all of a sudden it's not a surprise that a vast majority will not be prepared. I expect my alliance to stop playing AQ by tomorrow out of sheer exasperation.

kbean3

Balancing the right team now has to be bleed immune or poison immune, not to mention be able to kill a nightcrawler, survive a sentinel and hold a candle against dormammu and be able to regenerate life or life steal.
Good luck and happy potion buying

daveyj_196_

Sentinels in map 5 whilst a completely natural evolvement has rendered a majority of our rosters pointless. Damage over time champs aided us no end in all forms of the game. I have had to leave my alliance of 17 months as i was letting them down massively, unfortunately now i have no enthusiasm for the game and have only been logging on for the calendar rewards recently.
Kabams silence has been deafening. I believe they have realised they need to nerf but won't say publicly.
I'm also pretty bemused that the main you tubers who always claim to be on the side of the everyday players haven't cottoned on to the current bad feeling.

OnlyOneAboveAll

D14rock wrote: »

Has anybody even mentioned the fact that kabam clearly stated that they didn't want AQ to be the focus anymore and they wanted AW to be the game mode everyone focused towards for the better rewards. Why then am I spending more pots in each of the first 3 days of AQ than I ever do in AW, even against a really good defense?.... it can't be just because I'm not used to sentinels.. i have fought plenty of them in master and uncollected eq on 2 different a count and they near as bad the AQ ones.. you tell us to use class advantage to bear them.. exactly what skill champ can i use against science sentinel on heal block path? Or right there as garnet any bleed immune skill Champs... and the only science champ I can use against the mystic sentinel on that same path is LC.... give me a break?! Of course there are other bleed immune champs, but how many of them have strong armor break to counter not being able to have a class advantage? Ultron has armore break.. used him.. he sucks too..So you guys had to go ahead and rush this new map out even though it wasn't ready or even the end of the season yet and just lazily switched syms out for a sentinel of the same class when they don't even fit with a path..

Hulk, Captain Marvel, Storm, Crossbones, SpiderGwen, Thor and many more Destroy the sentinels.

IanMoone89

Fact remains that it doesnt matter if rewards are buffed up, its the idea that sentinels can automatically fire sp2 then sp1 making the fights unfair no matter how you look at it...first we had the collector money grab BS now we have sentinels who are more aggressive then syms and are capable of attacking much faster

OnlyOneAboveAll

Can't believe so many are having a tough time with these Sentinels. My alliance are using items like crazy. I do path 8 in sections 1 and 2 AQ. Have already fought 1 mystic, 1 science, 1 tech, 1 skill immune, and 2 mystic poison and just now lost my Hulk 5star rank 3. My Captain Marvel 5star r4 still sitting at full health and my Storm 5star r4 little over 70% health. Sure first couple days were tough trying to get used to these bulky and slow sentinels, but once you get the hang of them, they're not so bad. I do have a request though, their first specials are very hard to bait. They don't use them that often. Forcing us to take block damage from a special 2. That is all.

GroundedWisdom

kbean3 wrote: »

Balancing the right team now has to be bleed immune or poison immune, not to mention be able to kill a nightcrawler, survive a sentinel and hold a candle against dormammu and be able to regenerate life or life steal.
Good luck and happy potion buying

Hulk, AA, and any Regen Champ. Even Loki can be useful if the Opponent has Regen. I've kept him alive several times from Steal.

Bonecrusher69

Day 4 AQ prestige of over 8k a line of 13k sentinels with 200%+ health node takes the sentinels to over 80k + and with a rank 4 SL 5* the sentinels hit through block and destroys me. Next use storm rank 4 5* and after almost 100 hits he goes unblockable and smashes me. Um I’ve been playing this game for 3 years too long now, but that’s definitely more difficult than a symbioid I could take down in around 20 hits. You just made AQ annoying to play, if I play to not get hit it means I hit 5 - 10 and bait out L1 then evade twice and do it all again not just once or twice but at least 6-7 times for one 3 minute match. Ughhh who finds that enjoying ... not l

LBS

OnlyOneAboveAll wrote: »

Can't believe so many are having a tough time with these Sentinels. My alliance are using items like crazy. I do path 8 in sections 1 and 2 AQ. Have already fought 1 mystic, 1 science, 1 tech, 1 skill immune, and 2 mystic poison and just now lost my Hulk 5star rank 3. My Captain Marvel 5star r4 still sitting at full health and my Storm 5star r4 little over 70% health. Sure first couple days were tough trying to get used to these bulky and slow sentinels, but once you get the hang of them, they're not so bad. I do have a request though, their first specials are very hard to bait. They don't use them that often. Forcing us to take block damage from a special 2. That is all.

WOW! I have not enough words to thank you so much! Before your post I was convinced I have a problem with sentinels, but knowing that you have CapMarvel r4 storm r4 and Hulk r3 (5stars all) definitely SOLVED my concerns about!

Are you really not understanding? Let me try

I am a medium level player... In my ally we do map5... I have my champs and I always be on the top10 of my ally points rank
Before sentinels
I have NO BLADE, NO ICEMAN, NO GHOST, NO STARKY, NO MEDUSA... NO WOODOO, NO LUKE CAGE... NO THOR, NO STORM, NO GUILLO, NO CAP MARVEL...
I’ve always done my paths with my starlord 5/50, my wolvy 5/50 and my ultron 4/40 (not awakened)
By now I have no champs to fight sentinels at the end of the week... I’ll loose my champs before the second mini...

Btw, you have good champs to fight with, so my problem is solved...

I can’t believe...

BillLisBack

Wow, I hadn’t even thought of quitting until now. I’m 335k in a 9 mill alliance and we regularly do (did?) map 5 each day.

But what you’ve done is atrocious.

You want to change AQ? Fine. Rollout a fresh package. But what you’ve done is frontload all the pain with no additional incentives or rewards. You didn’t make a tweak, your changes have huge impact:

-fights are longer and more boring (I give enough of my time here already)
-you’ve rendered so many of our key champs ineffective against without even a hint of rankdown tickets
-you’ve made the content more difficult and thus created the need for more potions to be required with no additional prizes

I could go on but everyone else has done a great job. On that last point, what the heck? You’ve ramped up 5* shards so we are all getting a lot more of them. I appreciate that. However the vast majority of mine are sitting at level 1 because I can’t gather materials quickly enough to rank them. You could have used your tweaking to improve rewards so we could do that bit instead you’ve made it even harder to get the meager crumbs.

I’m not doing this. if you don’t make an instant reversal until you have a complete package I’ll really have to consider my involvement in this game. It’s been a life sucker already and I just don’t know that I have any more to give. I suppose I should thank you for the wake up call.

zMaoriiboii

Yep. Handed my notice to my alliance today. Only logged in for AQ and AW and now AQ is boring. Seems like the same fight over n over. At least with simboids(or what ever they were) had different specials so every fight at least seemed different. Maybe I'll be back when they figure out what they're doing. Until then. Laterz....

General_Vis

I love how Kabam are closing every thread on sentinels and directing people here to relay and questions, comments or concerns....while not responding to any questions, comments or concerns.

Kinda feels like ‘go here so we can ignore one thread rather than ignore multiple threads’.

TheXunknown

NanaPoku wrote: »

Kabam Miike wrote: »

420sam wrote: »

So, you are making it more difficult yet not adjusting anything like rewards or even glory? Can I ask why? How does this benefit the players?

As we said in that post, we are working on a full refresh. We are not at a place or time where we can increase the rewards or fully refresh the mode right now.

But you are at a place and time where you can increase difficulty for no obvious reason??

There is one obvious reason, more difficulty with regen champs not as useful = more money & units spent on health potions & revives.

Menkent

General_Vis wrote: »

I love how Kabam are closing every thread on sentinels and directing people here to relay and questions, comments or concerns....while not responding to any questions, comments or concerns.

Kinda feels like ‘go here so we can ignore one thread rather than ignore multiple threads’.

Same as when they broke AW last year.

ditCdave

These Sentinels are a freaking idea.
It took me 40 seconds to bait one to finally use his SP1 cause it’s in a power gain node.
All I got to say is Kabam you done it again. And for me the last straw.
Thanks for a, I would say wonderful but this game has rapidly been decreasing in fun. Thanks for nothing. I hope you continue your motto. Take the players money for all their worth for a sub-par game that causes so much issues and headache

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MEKA5

ChefSkallywag wrote: »

Map 5 day 4. I am used to running the immune lane. The Skill Sentinels make it impossible. Just lost my entire team to the first one. I quit

I hear you same here bro. I can solo minis and bosses. Always run the immunity lane without problems. Today I'm wiped out after the skill sentinel.

@Kabam Miike people are quitting or leaving the alliances for the frustration caused by this change in game. I'm considering it myself...it's not funny anymore!

crystaldsmith

As long as folks will be hitting 6+ overpowered sentinels in AQ, you should provide more Halls of Healing and Gold Rush so we stand a chance, and can rank up effective champs that previously went unused.

I think it's a good call to make SOME content in the game extremely hard, almost "unbeatable". It should be content where I, as a player, have the ability to decide if I want to play, and back out when I need to.

Alliance Quests aren't that content. That's 30 people per Alliance you're forcing to dredge through this unbearable slop of insanity. That was absolutely a decision all about money. AQ is essential to building a roster, and you've effectively ruined that for a whole lot of people.

AQ should be more challenging, and changed. Kabam has made many awesome decisions over the past year that I'm thankful for. With this one, you only saw dollar signs. You're now the Wal-Mart of mobile games. Congrats on that.

I hope more people refuse now more than ever to open their wallets. I won't spend another dollar now that you've shown how greedy your hand really is.