Alliance Quest Miniboss and Sentinel Refresh - April 2018 - Discussion Thread [Updated April 13]

Summoners,

We've just announced a small refresh of Alliance Quests that will start April 2nd. This will include new Minibosses, and a farewell to our Symbioid friends!

Read all about it, then ask your questions!

UPDATE:
We've just posted an update in regards to your feedback on Alliance Quests. This post includes some adjustments to Sentinels and Alliance Quests that will be coming with the next series (Starting April 18th). Take a look right here: http://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/62626/upcoming-adjustments-to-alliance-quests-april-18th-2018

Comments

RagamugginGunner

It's pretty awesome how the NC bosses know not to hit into the block of AA when they have a bleed on them. Really smart how they just hold block for 15 seconds till all the bleeds fall off so they can't get neurotoxined. Great work Kamab on making this game fun and interactive!!!

Bazza83

Congratulations to the kabam team for once again screwing what used to be a fun game to play.
Mike how can you not know that the difficulty has gotten worse? Do you not play the game? People have built up their rosters to complete aq and war with minimum potion use, you've basically forced people to bench wolverine and x23 as they are rendered useless now. I'm in a 11.8m alliance and not one person has had the same team this aq and people are having to use potions just to get through map5 thus making war even harder as we then have to spend units to get through. The damage you receive from the sentinels is ridiculous, most of the time they don't use their special 1, they also have 3 bars and not 2 like the syboids had and the damage from blocking the special 2 is unbelievable, I used Luke Cage agiainst the mystic sentinel and copped 650 per missile while blocking the special 2, you cannot say this is fair.
You watch how many mid ranged alliances now drop doing map5/6 and just do war, what is the point of spending that much coin for **** rewards in aq? Maybe that's kabams plan, nobody will ever know how you guys think.

World Eater

How arethose sentinels treating Map6 alliances ?? Oh right... they don’t have to deal with this change. Everyone else running other maps has to adjust to changes to , approximately 20 nodes.

Northwestbrosef

Too lazy to go back more than 5 pages. When was the last time we saw a mod in here?

Jbeard

Of course they new it would get harder that why they changed them so it cost us more to buy revives an health, they say in a comment that sentinel don’t like armour break, so why didn’t they give the players a heads up so we could of levelled different champion for it, an they say they can’t change rewards at the moment in time but it’s easy for they to add sentenial an new mini boss come on kabam your players ain’t that stupid

BillLisBack

You just described

MEKA5 wrote: »

ChefSkallywag wrote: »

Map 5 day 4. I am used to running the immune lane. The Skill Sentinels make it impossible. Just lost my entire team to the first one. I quit

I hear you same here bro. I can solo minis and bosses. Always run the immunity lane without problems. Today I'm wiped out after the skill sentinel.

@Kabam Miike people are quitting or leaving the alliances for the frustration caused by this change in game. I'm considering it myself...it's not funny anymore!

To the letter, this is my EXACT same experience

Chen

It's not only the Sentinels either. Day 1 NC took as many hits as Rhino day 4-5. NC shouldn't have this high of health or armor, pretty crazy to have to time out on day 1-3 against an NC. Wait till we start getting Morningstar.

StrikerC

@Kabam Miike
Why doesn't DIMINISHING RETURNS apply to sentinels? For update 12, you nerfed many of the best champs in the game to prevent them from having a 100% chance to do much of anything. Now after 20 charges, we get sentinels that have a 100% chance to power drain on basic hit or special when blocked if tech and nullify on hit if mystic. I can understand a change to aq but with no increase in rewards and no rank down tickets so we can rank up different champs, it's nothing more than a cash grab. We didn't even get much of a warning before this change, so that we can hold off on ranking up champs.

Gamer

Im like the new AQ but the boss Nc node defensive is so bad from me cant fight him if he dont use sp. Becasse of thah node

Treinin

@Kabam Miike

I'm not normally one for complaining on the forums, but this one has really f-ed up the game for me. I am an officer in an alliance that has been running 5X5. We are one of those alliances that this was already a struggle to do. Since the introduction of these sentinels we have had 4-5 people say they are leaving after this round of AQ because it is just too much for them to handle. This puts a big burden on our recruiting.

This was not a SMALL tweak. This was a considerable increase in difficulty with no improvement to rewards. It is just an obvious unit grab to make people spend to keep clearing content they were able to clear without units before and it is driving people away from the game.

I love this game but you really did blow this one, and it is costing you players.

Sincerely

Chen

Gamer wrote: »

Im like the new AQ but the boss Nc node defensive is so bad from me cant fight him if he dont use sp. Becasse of thah node

I like the new minibosses but tone down the health, we shouldn't be timing out on day 1 with 140 hits.

crystaldsmith

IDK how many alliances will be able to keep this up. If we can't finish we don't get our donations back and the rewards deep significantly. We're used to expert tier and completion of all BGs all five days but we won't complete even 2 BGs today. I cannot imagine what tomorrow will look like.

How many seasons is Kabam planning to leave it as it is? How many alliances will have to stop doing AQ, or how many will lose members, if it doesn't change soon?

Certainly Kabam is hearing these concerns. I'm sure they're scrambling now trying to fix it.

NinjaiX

The sentinels are clearly a cash grab because obviously Kabam don't generate enough money from us!

Miike's comment about them not being ready to make changes to rewards system does not seem very believable as they can clearly makes changes to the difficulty whenever they feel like. i.e. replacing Symboids with Sentinels can't be much different from change rewards x to rewards y, if anything it would be easier! And the content is more difficult because you can only use certain champs. Unlike the symboids you can use any class and still be able to get through. Now you have to be very picky with your champs otherwise you will get wasted, timed out etc. @Kabam Miike if you honestly think the content is not harder then I really would like to see fight a skill or mystik sentinel on day 5 with over 9k prestige. Show and prove to the community that the sentinels are not harder than a symboid and we will accept that we need to get better.

For too long know we have been treated like we don't matter and this takes the biscuit!

Get your house in order Kabam, and think of the end users for once!

Morgan210805

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420sam wrote: »

So, you are making it more difficult yet not adjusting anything like rewards or even glory? Can I ask why? How does this benefit the players?

As we said in that post, we are working on a full refresh. We are not at a place or time where we can increase the rewards or fully refresh the mode right now.

If you aren't at a place or time to refresh the rewards then you shouldn't be at a place or time to refresh the difficulty. One should not go without the other. This is a great example of pure laziness

But how are you so sure that the difficulty has gotten worse?

Granted, Bleed and Poison champions may not be as effective in Alliance Quests as they were before, but Sentinels melt at the power of a Armor Break Champion, and a lot of the new Mini-Bosses have very common counters!

Having now fought against the new sentinels my personal opinion and the opinion of my alliance is you’ve ruined this game. In aw our alliance finished gold 2 so by no means are we incapable of fighting but these sentinels are ridiculous. I’ve now got to start recruiting as half the alliance no longer feel comfortable doing 5x5 in aq and are quitting for a lower alliance or quitting the game all together . I myself have gone from getting to dorm with a full team almost full to not getting to 2nd mini without reviving or using potions and that’s only because I did halls of healing. I’m now out of resources and will not be spending money to keep playing. You’ve had more than enough money off me over the years. Without a team of strong 5* or some 6* there’s no chance of average players doing 5x5 plus aw when it restarts. Very very disappointed

NinjaiX

crystaldsmith wrote: »

Certainly Kabam is hearing these concerns. I'm sure they're scrambling now trying to fix it.

LOL I am sure they are!

RagamugginGunner

I just wish they wouldn't talk to us like we're children who don't understand what's going on.

We know when something is going to be more challenging and we know that it doesn't take more than a few min to change the values on glory rewards.

Stop lying to us Kabam.

Brainimpacter

Kabams Employees/Community Mods could not be anymore patronising if they tried, who do they think they kidding with the talk about it being no more difficult than before, they act as if they know better than us who actually play the game at a very high level, day in, day out, when all they know is what their bosses tell them, they are rather being fed lies or are in on the lies fed to the community.

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Crilla420

.50 of a second for purify a stun my character doesn’t react fast enought to hit him and he just blocks it cause the lag. Bleed and poison immune. Unblockable specials after passing 40 strategy charges. Every one of them counters every type of class differently with strategy charges. The more charges he gains the better he fights with a increase in armor and attack. Decrease in crit hits. Speacials cost less to activate them. It’s just special and special and don’t forget these are unblocke able after the 40 statagey charges. I could keep going about it. It’s all there in the charcter description. So please tell me how it didn’t get harder? Also don’t you think this should have waitied till you did a total refresh of aq with the increase in rewards? With how the game is so broken right now instead of fixing it you just drop this on us. I got a suggestion for the next charcter and his abilities. He should just make every champ lose control of his charcter block and spacails don’t work ever. He should have a power gain of 1000%. Regan with 1000% regan in health a second. Ohh I almost forgot come up with some bs for a champ to have some sort of unavoidable damge given by 1000% too.

starGORD

To Kabam Mike
Most of the players are so disappointed from this new AQ .You make us to looks like newbys with Sentinels , spending a lots resource for map5 and for what rewards? I hope you boys and girls from Kabam are jokening and you will fix this soon.

.immune to debuff effect with unstoppable sp1 and 2

Yes this is a joke

Pennsyltucky

the monotony of AQ has now shifted to a more frustrating monotony. Regen champs/lane clearers have been ruled obsolete by the sentinels. If you look at it through kabam's perspective it makes sense. If you keep dying you spend your resources on potions and revives - which leads those with credit cards/those that spend money on the game to do that generating an income for Kabam. It just doesn't legitimately make sense because we don't have the abilities to constantly rank down and up champs to accommodate the changes, which is great if we didn't have to use the glory for potions and instead can be buying t1 alpha and t4 basic which seem to have disappeared entirely from the game. there is so much more to be said about the illegitimacy of the sentinels and what they have the ability to do to a 5/50 champ, but we all know this is going to fall on deaf ears.

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Markimus0allen

So this will probably offend the easily offended people. You can stop reading if that is you. This new “refresh” is a joke. The addition of the sentinels to map 5 without any rank down tokens appears to just be a money grab by kabam. This refresh was accompanied by 5 star shards and catalyst options, all expensive. This whole refresh appears to be a way to insulate the best alliances by making map 5 a money pit for Kabam so that if players want decent rewards, gotta fork over the cash. If that is the purpose than kabam should just make this a pay to play game instead of whatever this is now. I have made several purchases in the past but I started today by deleting all my payment info so no further purchases could be made in those wee hours.

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Theripper34x

I think if we actually stand together as a community and let Kabam know we are not happy with the sentinels at current they might surprise us by making them a bit more manageable, maybe it’s the evade bugs going on right now, maybe it’s an intended mechanic of the new sentinels, I personally can’t tell, usually when you do a light hit intercept at a distance you just hit the air if they don’t dash in, however with the size of the sentinels, even when you are at a distance they can intercept that light hit as if you were too close, I understand if they were to clip you if you dash in but this feels like a bug and I for one would like some clarification as to if it is intended or not, this is especially important if you run the debuff immune lane in map5, if you can’t intercept, and can’t parry and evade isn’t reliable then what are you as a player to do? The sentinels act really defensive and don’t take the bait fast enough when you are baiting specials, for me they refuse to bait to the point that my evade stops working and I end up getting tagged and would like to also know if this is a high priority fix.

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KuvelLa

NC is broken and the sentinels need to have the unblockable removed. And they are boring. There’s toooo many. AQ is too difficult now and not very fun.

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ChosenUno

@Kabam Miike I am just tired of your tirany and greediness. This is total ****. Yes you ..ker, It IS more harder! I used 15 precious items in day 4 and I didn't even finished the quest. Never happended before. So YES! It's harder you pos. Why not increasing the damn rewards anyways?? What does it cost you? You were in the position of make changes, make it harder but not for anything else? Damn you all there. I am really really disappointed and tired after all the money I've spent, time, lost jobs because playing this satanic game, lost income by not doing Uber because of playing this game. When someone else get so mad and do the same as in Youtube maybe you will come to senses. Bring the symbiods back!!!! And give like a 100 rank down tickets. Game have changed so much is not even fun anymore. I must thank you because I am about to be free from this satanic game. I'm quiting.

mostlyharmlessn

Mcord117 wrote: »

They know what they did and they don’t care. If you want to make them care, run free maps and don’t use items till something changes. If we all just keep pushing through, they are right not to care

We just stopped asking people to revive or heal... just not worth it