Infinity Dungeons Discussion Thread

Summoners! We're really excited to announce the introduction of a brand new mode to The Contest! Introducing, Infinity Dungeons! Infinity Dungeons will be available for a limited time only, but are unlike anything you've seen in The Contest before. Read all about them here: http://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/63523/introducing-infinity-dungeons/

There's a lot of information to absorb, and you're likely going to have questions. This is the place to ask them!

If you've got a few minutes, we also suggest watching this video that explains a little bit more:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoMbVUBvJaI

Comments

The_Savage_Ancient

I entered the dungeon lobby by mistake, can I exit it now because I wanna play it later. So will I be locked out if I exit the lobby now?

TyEdge

@Kabam Miike I have 14 5-stars. I'm uncollected. I cleared Act 4 100%. I'm level 60. Not a world-beater one year into the game, but there's no reason content should be locked from me.

SuperFarz

The_Savage_Ancient wrote: »

I entered the dungeon lobby by mistake, can I exit it now because I wanna play it later. So will I be locked out if I exit the lobby now?

You can play the dungeon unlimited times just the champions you actually use will be on cooldown. Joining and leaving in prelobby has no impact.

GroundedWisdom

Ins1DeOUT wrote: »

When do the Dungeon Milestones Reset?? Is it Every day??

Yes. There is a Timer on it.

HENRIQUE_FORTE

I have no access to the 5* crystals and only see the 3000 milestone.

I have 12 5* (Hawkeye at R3, the others suck) and 65 4* (some are r5). I don't care about getting more 4*.

I think you set too high the prestige limit to get more milestones and be able to purchase the 5* crystals.

Crazyjack719

Firstly, I just want to say thank you for creating a game mode that truly makes this game more fun and interactive with great rewards for minimal effort. This game mode truly answers the call for a "training mode" as such while also giving you the oppurtunity to socialise more in game and make friends.

Having said that, dont you think you should create a detailed guideline regarding the prestige requirements necessary to meet all the milestones and tobhave access to the 5* crystal?

This guideline might be able to answer the barrage of posts, complaints and speculation that has taken over this forum in the last couple hours.

Maybe it could look like this?

Prestige Requirements:

0-2500 - 1500 Milestone - 1st stage access (3*)
2501-4500 - 3000 Milestone - 2nd stage access (4*)
4501-6500 - 5000 Milestone - 3rd Stage access (5*)
6501-10000 - 7500 Milesrone - 4th Stage access (5* + more rewards)

I am a mid level player who falls into the 2nd category, but i play this game quite hardcore and would just like to know the exact figures necessary to use this game mode to further my progression, as many others like me will want to do.

Cheesedit

SuperFarz wrote: »

I see people are getting confused. From what I see there are 2 cutoffs. One cutoff from being able to see the 5* chrystal and another cutoff for the highest milestone in dungeon. It’s just unfortunate that no information is available on the requirements. Event however is fun and well made ( except chat). However whatever the cutoff is the people just below it will be mad and frustrated. As usual time is needed to grow your account so for the next time you will be hopefully qualified.

So a 400k or 500k needs more time to grow? Lol ok, you must be getting all the rewards.

GroundedWisdom

Honestly, it was the Players that asked for a system based on Prestige. If anyone remembers the Awakening Gem of 12.0, or the multiple times people have mentioned awarding things based on Prestige. AQ is gauged the same way. While I relate to wanting all Milestones and Rewards, the system itself is nothing new, and I think it's important to mention this is what we asked for.

Jayfighter88

What after all the reward claimed .. is there any benefit playing dungeons after achieving all milestones?

Gwendoline

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Honestly, it was the Players that asked for a system based on Prestige. If anyone remembers the Awakening Gem of 12.0, or the multiple times people have mentioned awarding things based on Prestige. AQ is gauged the same way. While I relate to wanting all Milestones and Rewards, the system itself is nothing new, and I think it's important to mention this is what we asked for.

No one asked for this and I can’t remember a time before where people saw different milestones, apart from arena (time based, not prestige based) and the really early on solo events. I don’t know if the solo events where time or prestige based because when they where introduced I was in the highest bracket already. And very soon people enter into the highest possible bracket. Important to note is that all milestones are different here, different points needed and different rewards, they aren’t seeing the same as we are minus the last (couple of) milestones.

So please point out how this is “nothing new” because it feels pretty new to me.

GroundedWisdom

People frequently ask on the Forum for things to be based on Prestige.

Primmer79

Gwendoline wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Honestly, it was the Players that asked for a system based on Prestige. If anyone remembers the Awakening Gem of 12.0, or the multiple times people have mentioned awarding things based on Prestige. AQ is gauged the same way. While I relate to wanting all Milestones and Rewards, the system itself is nothing new, and I think it's important to mention this is what we asked for.

No one asked for this and I can’t remember a time before where people saw different milestones, apart from arena (time based, not prestige based) and the really early on solo events. I don’t know if the solo events where time or prestige based because when they where introduced I was in the highest bracket already. And very soon people enter into the highest possible bracket. Important to note is that all milestones are different here, different points needed and different rewards, they aren’t seeing the same as we are minus the last (couple of) milestones.

So please point out how this is “nothing new” because it feels pretty new to me.

He is referencing 12.0 and how compensation was based on total PI. This separated some people who sold champions. People called for it to be based on prestige instead. Not the same thing, IMO, but if they're basing rewards off of how 'strong' your account is, I'd rather it be prestige than PI.

I don't have a problem with HOW they're separating brackets, but it seems like the last bracket is too high just for some 5 star champions.

Edit: meant to tag @GroundedWisdom at some point and forgot

GroundedWisdom

Primmer79 wrote: »

Gwendoline wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Honestly, it was the Players that asked for a system based on Prestige. If anyone remembers the Awakening Gem of 12.0, or the multiple times people have mentioned awarding things based on Prestige. AQ is gauged the same way. While I relate to wanting all Milestones and Rewards, the system itself is nothing new, and I think it's important to mention this is what we asked for.

No one asked for this and I can’t remember a time before where people saw different milestones, apart from arena (time based, not prestige based) and the really early on solo events. I don’t know if the solo events where time or prestige based because when they where introduced I was in the highest bracket already. And very soon people enter into the highest possible bracket. Important to note is that all milestones are different here, different points needed and different rewards, they aren’t seeing the same as we are minus the last (couple of) milestones.

So please point out how this is “nothing new” because it feels pretty new to me.

He is referencing 12.0 and how compensation was based on total PI. This separated some people who sold champions. People called for it to be based on prestige instead. Not the same thing, IMO, but if they're basing rewards off of how 'strong' your account is, I'd rather it be prestige than PI.

I don't have a problem with HOW they're separating brackets, but it seems like the last bracket is too high just for some 5 star champions.

That was an example, but it's come up many times before, everything from War to Events.

Primmer79

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Primmer79 wrote: »

Gwendoline wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Honestly, it was the Players that asked for a system based on Prestige. If anyone remembers the Awakening Gem of 12.0, or the multiple times people have mentioned awarding things based on Prestige. AQ is gauged the same way. While I relate to wanting all Milestones and Rewards, the system itself is nothing new, and I think it's important to mention this is what we asked for.

No one asked for this and I can’t remember a time before where people saw different milestones, apart from arena (time based, not prestige based) and the really early on solo events. I don’t know if the solo events where time or prestige based because when they where introduced I was in the highest bracket already. And very soon people enter into the highest possible bracket. Important to note is that all milestones are different here, different points needed and different rewards, they aren’t seeing the same as we are minus the last (couple of) milestones.

So please point out how this is “nothing new” because it feels pretty new to me.

He is referencing 12.0 and how compensation was based on total PI. This separated some people who sold champions. People called for it to be based on prestige instead. Not the same thing, IMO, but if they're basing rewards off of how 'strong' your account is, I'd rather it be prestige than PI.

I don't have a problem with HOW they're separating brackets, but it seems like the last bracket is too high just for some 5 star champions.

That was an example, but it's come up many times before, everything from War to Events.

And not always where it's a great idea, lol. But here, I agree with it, just disagree with execution of it

L8Rdays

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Honestly, it was the Players that asked for a system based on Prestige. If anyone remembers the Awakening Gem of 12.0, or the multiple times people have mentioned awarding things based on Prestige. AQ is gauged the same way. While I relate to wanting all Milestones and Rewards, the system itself is nothing new, and I think it's important to mention this is what we asked for.

The awakening gem was based on PI, not prestige. In fact, all of the compensation was based on overall summoner rating. Prestige had nothing to do with the 12.0 compensation.

AQ is the area where prestige matters for rewards. It has it’s place there, and should not impact other areas of the game or reward systems. To say the players asked for this tiered reward system is ridiculous. I am not sure what you are trying to accomplish with a statement like that, other than making people frustrated.

If you want to base it on anything, it should be based on accomplishments in game. Being uncollected or completing some aspect of the game (e.g. finishing Act 5). This would be a far more reasonable criteria is that is based on skill. Shouldn’t that determine the readiness for a summoner to receive the highest level of rewards that Kabam feels needs to be separated for some ridiculous reason? I fail to see how that doesn’t make more sense.

Primmer79

L8Rdays wrote: »

The awakening gem was based on PI, not prestige. In fact, all of the compensation was based on overall summoner rating. Prestige had nothing to do with the 12.0 compensation.

It wasnt based on prestige, and players were upset about that.

GroundedWisdom

Primmer79 wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Primmer79 wrote: »

Gwendoline wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Honestly, it was the Players that asked for a system based on Prestige. If anyone remembers the Awakening Gem of 12.0, or the multiple times people have mentioned awarding things based on Prestige. AQ is gauged the same way. While I relate to wanting all Milestones and Rewards, the system itself is nothing new, and I think it's important to mention this is what we asked for.

No one asked for this and I can’t remember a time before where people saw different milestones, apart from arena (time based, not prestige based) and the really early on solo events. I don’t know if the solo events where time or prestige based because when they where introduced I was in the highest bracket already. And very soon people enter into the highest possible bracket. Important to note is that all milestones are different here, different points needed and different rewards, they aren’t seeing the same as we are minus the last (couple of) milestones.

So please point out how this is “nothing new” because it feels pretty new to me.

He is referencing 12.0 and how compensation was based on total PI. This separated some people who sold champions. People called for it to be based on prestige instead. Not the same thing, IMO, but if they're basing rewards off of how 'strong' your account is, I'd rather it be prestige than PI.

I don't have a problem with HOW they're separating brackets, but it seems like the last bracket is too high just for some 5 star champions.

That was an example, but it's come up many times before, everything from War to Events.

And not always where it's a great idea, lol. But here, I agree with it, just disagree with execution of it

Well, it's a bit of a Catch-22. If they announced it ahead of time, I could see people scrambling to raise it. I could also see people accusing them of trying to boost sales, or other possible conflicts. Equally as conflicting if they released it after the fact, as we saw in the past. It is what it is.

Primmer79

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Primmer79 wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Primmer79 wrote: »

Gwendoline wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Honestly, it was the Players that asked for a system based on Prestige. If anyone remembers the Awakening Gem of 12.0, or the multiple times people have mentioned awarding things based on Prestige. AQ is gauged the same way. While I relate to wanting all Milestones and Rewards, the system itself is nothing new, and I think it's important to mention this is what we asked for.

No one asked for this and I can’t remember a time before where people saw different milestones, apart from arena (time based, not prestige based) and the really early on solo events. I don’t know if the solo events where time or prestige based because when they where introduced I was in the highest bracket already. And very soon people enter into the highest possible bracket. Important to note is that all milestones are different here, different points needed and different rewards, they aren’t seeing the same as we are minus the last (couple of) milestones.

So please point out how this is “nothing new” because it feels pretty new to me.

He is referencing 12.0 and how compensation was based on total PI. This separated some people who sold champions. People called for it to be based on prestige instead. Not the same thing, IMO, but if they're basing rewards off of how 'strong' your account is, I'd rather it be prestige than PI.

I don't have a problem with HOW they're separating brackets, but it seems like the last bracket is too high just for some 5 star champions.

That was an example, but it's come up many times before, everything from War to Events.

And not always where it's a great idea, lol. But here, I agree with it, just disagree with execution of it

Well, it's a bit of a Catch-22. If they announced it ahead of time, I could see people scrambling to raise it. I could also see people accusing them of trying to boost sales, or other possible conflicts. Equally as conflicting if they released it after the fact, as we saw in the past. It is what it is.

I'll clarify more - the brackets I disagree with. Not necessarily announcing it. I know different events, different sales, different promotions.

Buy a 5* with any account? sure! Win a 5* with 2*? sure! Grind out some hard dungeon content for a 5*? nah.

I think (which means my opinion) two separate brackets (milestones and 5* crystals) wasn't necessary, but also feel the bracket for the highest is a little high. It is what it is, so I'm just voicing my opinion at this point.

Side point - AQ rewards are based on alliance prestige. We can see alliance prestige. Dungeon bracket is based on profile prestige. We can't see profile prestige. Would be nice not to have to hop between things to calculate it all.

PFunk

@Kabam Miike , just wanted to share a perfect example of why your “based on prestige” is flawed. Not bashing, just shedding some insight. I went into a dungeon with an alliance mate who’s 7k prestige and I’m at 5340 prestige. We got to room 5 and he was knocked out at the first champ, I got my link down, the mini with both links up(I got down), and the final boss with the degen(I got down) toclesr the room for us. So to tell me I’m not ready to get a 5* ag when I’m running with the big boys isn’t right at all. I would ask that you guys re evaluate your cutoff for the highest milestone and compensate those who have been wronged by this. 5k prestige should be plenty to get full milestone rewards. 5k prestige is good enough to get you in an alliance that scores within the top 1k aq event each week. Also I have done the initial clear of act 5, and have a 4/55 sl that I could take on lol, but haven’t Bc I haven’t saved up enough unit’s yet. I wouldn’t consider myself one of the top dogs, but I can fight with the best of them, and 5* ag’s is exactly what I need to get on track with those guys. You guys said we should be thrifty with our resources when you talked about the gold shortage, now your punishing those who are thrifty.

GroundedWisdom

Primmer79 wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Primmer79 wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Primmer79 wrote: »

Gwendoline wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Honestly, it was the Players that asked for a system based on Prestige. If anyone remembers the Awakening Gem of 12.0, or the multiple times people have mentioned awarding things based on Prestige. AQ is gauged the same way. While I relate to wanting all Milestones and Rewards, the system itself is nothing new, and I think it's important to mention this is what we asked for.

No one asked for this and I can’t remember a time before where people saw different milestones, apart from arena (time based, not prestige based) and the really early on solo events. I don’t know if the solo events where time or prestige based because when they where introduced I was in the highest bracket already. And very soon people enter into the highest possible bracket. Important to note is that all milestones are different here, different points needed and different rewards, they aren’t seeing the same as we are minus the last (couple of) milestones.

So please point out how this is “nothing new” because it feels pretty new to me.

He is referencing 12.0 and how compensation was based on total PI. This separated some people who sold champions. People called for it to be based on prestige instead. Not the same thing, IMO, but if they're basing rewards off of how 'strong' your account is, I'd rather it be prestige than PI.

I don't have a problem with HOW they're separating brackets, but it seems like the last bracket is too high just for some 5 star champions.

That was an example, but it's come up many times before, everything from War to Events.

And not always where it's a great idea, lol. But here, I agree with it, just disagree with execution of it

Well, it's a bit of a Catch-22. If they announced it ahead of time, I could see people scrambling to raise it. I could also see people accusing them of trying to boost sales, or other possible conflicts. Equally as conflicting if they released it after the fact, as we saw in the past. It is what it is.

I'll clarify more - the brackets I disagree with. Not necessarily announcing it. I know different events, different sales, different promotions.

Buy a 5* with any account? sure! Win a 5* with 2*? sure! Grind out some hard dungeon content for a 5*? nah.

I think (which means my opinion) two separate brackets (milestones and 5* crystals) wasn't necessary, but also feel the bracket for the highest is a little high. It is what it is, so I'm just voicing my opinion at this point.

Side point - AQ rewards are based on alliance prestige. We can see alliance prestige. Dungeon bracket is based on profile prestige. We can't see profile prestige. Would be nice not to have to hop between things to calculate it all.

I see what you're saying. I thought you meant the lack of notice.

I'm not sure I agree with Prestige being displayed, only because it would add to the Prestige Race. I know it already goes on, but it also devalues some Champs that are highly useful. I just think it became too much of a focus to maximize Rewards, but I digress. Another Thread, another time. Lol. I get what you're saying though.

mum_m2

Kabam DK wrote: »

A_Noob_Is1 wrote: »

1. Will people like the collector/maestro/the nameless be in the dungeon?
2. Can you possibly play up to a room with like 1 million rated characters?
3. Will any of the nodes like apsect of war/chaos be present?

1. No.
2. In theory, yes. I will personally high five you if you actually make it to a room with opponents with 1,000,000 Rating.
3. We aren't revealing what Buffs will be in the mode because we don't want to spoil the fun of doing your first few Dungeons

I don't think it would even be possible. you would need someone with a ridiculously high damage output. Winter Soldier in comparison can take at least a minute to complete. Red Hulk in LOL will take a few more. that said you only have 12 minutes to complete each room. I'd be interested in seeing if anyone can get to 100k PI and clear the room.

Darkness275

So, you bottleneck a player's rewards based off whatever predetermined glass ceiling you have established for them - okay fine. But when your players ask you how said ceiling's are determined, so that they can work towards breaking their's and thus reach the next level - you say no?

"Can't release that, sorry. We know you'd like to get better, but tbh player progression and enjoyment isn't really our goal here. By the way, we know that the method of these glass ceilings are flawed and unfair to you players, but we dgaf and will continue using them."

Well, you know what I can't release? Any more money from my bank account. Not until you guys start becoming more transparent and responsive; and I don't mean 100% chance at gold! level of transparency either. Enjoy a 1* rating on the app store - I know you have plenty of whales to just continue to dump money for you, but I will no longer be one of them.

It's a shame too, because these dungeons and the Mad Titan trials are really fun, but I'm disappointed by your general reluctance to be fully transparent with your players and help them progress through your game in order to simply have a chance at earning better rewards. It's not even like you're just handing the rewards out, you'd simply be providing them the information on what they could do to earn the chance at unlocking said rewards, and you can't even do that.

Jetfoil17

I've been playing this game for 8 mouth and in one event you just convinced me to quit... Your prestige bracked to be able to reach milestone and reward are way too high.. I am uncollected and i do map5 every day.. I hold on my ressource till i can pull a good 5 star since i don't need any 4 stars anymore . I have three 4 stars r5 and one 5 stars r3 and a lot a 4 stars r4 but i can't even use my artefact to buy 5 stars.. This event was the only thing really new for mounth and i can't even enjoy it because the only reward i can get with my artefact are basicaly useless for me.. Thanks Kabam

The_Grandmaster

so far this event seems like a major hassle. So far I have teamed up with people who only wanted to do a room or 2 and bail which cost me some good champs to now be locked. Had people who wouldn't communicate and just did whatever they wanted. and not to mention the endless conversations of people just trying to find partners to play a dungeon with. This is going to be a long month full of aggravation. And btw I don't know why Kabam has to be so secretive about the PI of the teams in each dungeon and how much point they award. Someone from the community will figure all this out and post it for us all to know eventually so it makes no sense for Kabam to not do it first. Overall I was hyped for this event but after 1 day of playing it I am now thinking it will be just another disappointment

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Primmer79

Bajjsbwuqjw wrote: »

How are we able to buy the first week 27k 5* crystalls before they timeout if we can play only 1950 a day and that would be about 14000 dark items

check the announcement

RagamugginGunner

I really hate these. Take way too much time and if you partner screws up you lost like 30-45 min of work. Just wait a week and everyone is going to hate the ~2 hour block they'll need to unlock all the rewards to get the 5* crystals.

Nomarigerol

The_Grandmaster wrote: »

so far this event seems like a major hassle. So far I have teamed up with people who only wanted to do a room or 2 and bail which cost me some good champs to now be locked. Had people who wouldn't communicate and just did whatever they wanted. and not to mention the endless conversations of people just trying to find partners to play a dungeon with. This is going to be a long month full of aggravation. And btw I don't know why Kabam has to be so secretive about the PI of the teams in each dungeon and how much point they award. Someone from the community will figure all this out and post it for us all to know eventually so it makes no sense for Kabam to not do it first. Overall I was hyped for this event but after 1 day of playing it I am now thinking it will be just another disappointment

so time consuming, and for what in the end ? 27k dark artifacts seem unreachable unless you play everyday like your life depends on it, and as for the the infinity dust meh, the other way to win it seem easier

Primmer79

Nomarigerol wrote: »

The_Grandmaster wrote: »

so far this event seems like a major hassle. So far I have teamed up with people who only wanted to do a room or 2 and bail which cost me some good champs to now be locked. Had people who wouldn't communicate and just did whatever they wanted. and not to mention the endless conversations of people just trying to find partners to play a dungeon with. This is going to be a long month full of aggravation. And btw I don't know why Kabam has to be so secretive about the PI of the teams in each dungeon and how much point they award. Someone from the community will figure all this out and post it for us all to know eventually so it makes no sense for Kabam to not do it first. Overall I was hyped for this event but after 1 day of playing it I am now thinking it will be just another disappointment

so time consuming, and for what in the end ? 27k dark artifacts seem unreachable unless you play everyday like your life depends on it, and as for the the infinity dust meh, the other way to win it seem easier

You can theoretically get 3 5* crystals throughout the month doing it all. I'll plan on 2 and be happy

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