Infinity Dungeons Discussion Thread

Summoners! We're really excited to announce the introduction of a brand new mode to The Contest! Introducing, Infinity Dungeons! Infinity Dungeons will be available for a limited time only, but are unlike anything you've seen in The Contest before. Read all about them here: http://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/63523/introducing-infinity-dungeons/

There's a lot of information to absorb, and you're likely going to have questions. This is the place to ask them!

If you've got a few minutes, we also suggest watching this video that explains a little bit more:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoMbVUBvJaI

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GroundedWisdom

Primmer79 wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Primmer79 wrote: »

Gwendoline wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Honestly, it was the Players that asked for a system based on Prestige. If anyone remembers the Awakening Gem of 12.0, or the multiple times people have mentioned awarding things based on Prestige. AQ is gauged the same way. While I relate to wanting all Milestones and Rewards, the system itself is nothing new, and I think it's important to mention this is what we asked for.

No one asked for this and I can’t remember a time before where people saw different milestones, apart from arena (time based, not prestige based) and the really early on solo events. I don’t know if the solo events where time or prestige based because when they where introduced I was in the highest bracket already. And very soon people enter into the highest possible bracket. Important to note is that all milestones are different here, different points needed and different rewards, they aren’t seeing the same as we are minus the last (couple of) milestones.

So please point out how this is “nothing new” because it feels pretty new to me.

He is referencing 12.0 and how compensation was based on total PI. This separated some people who sold champions. People called for it to be based on prestige instead. Not the same thing, IMO, but if they're basing rewards off of how 'strong' your account is, I'd rather it be prestige than PI.

I don't have a problem with HOW they're separating brackets, but it seems like the last bracket is too high just for some 5 star champions.

That was an example, but it's come up many times before, everything from War to Events.

And not always where it's a great idea, lol. But here, I agree with it, just disagree with execution of it

Well, it's a bit of a Catch-22. If they announced it ahead of time, I could see people scrambling to raise it. I could also see people accusing them of trying to boost sales, or other possible conflicts. Equally as conflicting if they released it after the fact, as we saw in the past. It is what it is.

Primmer79

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Primmer79 wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Primmer79 wrote: »

Gwendoline wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Honestly, it was the Players that asked for a system based on Prestige. If anyone remembers the Awakening Gem of 12.0, or the multiple times people have mentioned awarding things based on Prestige. AQ is gauged the same way. While I relate to wanting all Milestones and Rewards, the system itself is nothing new, and I think it's important to mention this is what we asked for.

No one asked for this and I can’t remember a time before where people saw different milestones, apart from arena (time based, not prestige based) and the really early on solo events. I don’t know if the solo events where time or prestige based because when they where introduced I was in the highest bracket already. And very soon people enter into the highest possible bracket. Important to note is that all milestones are different here, different points needed and different rewards, they aren’t seeing the same as we are minus the last (couple of) milestones.

So please point out how this is “nothing new” because it feels pretty new to me.

He is referencing 12.0 and how compensation was based on total PI. This separated some people who sold champions. People called for it to be based on prestige instead. Not the same thing, IMO, but if they're basing rewards off of how 'strong' your account is, I'd rather it be prestige than PI.

I don't have a problem with HOW they're separating brackets, but it seems like the last bracket is too high just for some 5 star champions.

That was an example, but it's come up many times before, everything from War to Events.

And not always where it's a great idea, lol. But here, I agree with it, just disagree with execution of it

Well, it's a bit of a Catch-22. If they announced it ahead of time, I could see people scrambling to raise it. I could also see people accusing them of trying to boost sales, or other possible conflicts. Equally as conflicting if they released it after the fact, as we saw in the past. It is what it is.

I'll clarify more - the brackets I disagree with. Not necessarily announcing it. I know different events, different sales, different promotions.

Buy a 5* with any account? sure! Win a 5* with 2*? sure! Grind out some hard dungeon content for a 5*? nah.

I think (which means my opinion) two separate brackets (milestones and 5* crystals) wasn't necessary, but also feel the bracket for the highest is a little high. It is what it is, so I'm just voicing my opinion at this point.

Side point - AQ rewards are based on alliance prestige. We can see alliance prestige. Dungeon bracket is based on profile prestige. We can't see profile prestige. Would be nice not to have to hop between things to calculate it all.

PFunk

@Kabam Miike , just wanted to share a perfect example of why your “based on prestige” is flawed. Not bashing, just shedding some insight. I went into a dungeon with an alliance mate who’s 7k prestige and I’m at 5340 prestige. We got to room 5 and he was knocked out at the first champ, I got my link down, the mini with both links up(I got down), and the final boss with the degen(I got down) toclesr the room for us. So to tell me I’m not ready to get a 5* ag when I’m running with the big boys isn’t right at all. I would ask that you guys re evaluate your cutoff for the highest milestone and compensate those who have been wronged by this. 5k prestige should be plenty to get full milestone rewards. 5k prestige is good enough to get you in an alliance that scores within the top 1k aq event each week. Also I have done the initial clear of act 5, and have a 4/55 sl that I could take on lol, but haven’t Bc I haven’t saved up enough unit’s yet. I wouldn’t consider myself one of the top dogs, but I can fight with the best of them, and 5* ag’s is exactly what I need to get on track with those guys. You guys said we should be thrifty with our resources when you talked about the gold shortage, now your punishing those who are thrifty.

GroundedWisdom

Primmer79 wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Primmer79 wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Primmer79 wrote: »

Gwendoline wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Honestly, it was the Players that asked for a system based on Prestige. If anyone remembers the Awakening Gem of 12.0, or the multiple times people have mentioned awarding things based on Prestige. AQ is gauged the same way. While I relate to wanting all Milestones and Rewards, the system itself is nothing new, and I think it's important to mention this is what we asked for.

No one asked for this and I can’t remember a time before where people saw different milestones, apart from arena (time based, not prestige based) and the really early on solo events. I don’t know if the solo events where time or prestige based because when they where introduced I was in the highest bracket already. And very soon people enter into the highest possible bracket. Important to note is that all milestones are different here, different points needed and different rewards, they aren’t seeing the same as we are minus the last (couple of) milestones.

So please point out how this is “nothing new” because it feels pretty new to me.

He is referencing 12.0 and how compensation was based on total PI. This separated some people who sold champions. People called for it to be based on prestige instead. Not the same thing, IMO, but if they're basing rewards off of how 'strong' your account is, I'd rather it be prestige than PI.

I don't have a problem with HOW they're separating brackets, but it seems like the last bracket is too high just for some 5 star champions.

That was an example, but it's come up many times before, everything from War to Events.

And not always where it's a great idea, lol. But here, I agree with it, just disagree with execution of it

Well, it's a bit of a Catch-22. If they announced it ahead of time, I could see people scrambling to raise it. I could also see people accusing them of trying to boost sales, or other possible conflicts. Equally as conflicting if they released it after the fact, as we saw in the past. It is what it is.

I'll clarify more - the brackets I disagree with. Not necessarily announcing it. I know different events, different sales, different promotions.

Buy a 5* with any account? sure! Win a 5* with 2*? sure! Grind out some hard dungeon content for a 5*? nah.

I think (which means my opinion) two separate brackets (milestones and 5* crystals) wasn't necessary, but also feel the bracket for the highest is a little high. It is what it is, so I'm just voicing my opinion at this point.

Side point - AQ rewards are based on alliance prestige. We can see alliance prestige. Dungeon bracket is based on profile prestige. We can't see profile prestige. Would be nice not to have to hop between things to calculate it all.

I see what you're saying. I thought you meant the lack of notice.

I'm not sure I agree with Prestige being displayed, only because it would add to the Prestige Race. I know it already goes on, but it also devalues some Champs that are highly useful. I just think it became too much of a focus to maximize Rewards, but I digress. Another Thread, another time. Lol. I get what you're saying though.

mum_m2

Kabam DK wrote: »

A_Noob_Is1 wrote: »

1. Will people like the collector/maestro/the nameless be in the dungeon?
2. Can you possibly play up to a room with like 1 million rated characters?
3. Will any of the nodes like apsect of war/chaos be present?

1. No.
2. In theory, yes. I will personally high five you if you actually make it to a room with opponents with 1,000,000 Rating.
3. We aren't revealing what Buffs will be in the mode because we don't want to spoil the fun of doing your first few Dungeons

I don't think it would even be possible. you would need someone with a ridiculously high damage output. Winter Soldier in comparison can take at least a minute to complete. Red Hulk in LOL will take a few more. that said you only have 12 minutes to complete each room. I'd be interested in seeing if anyone can get to 100k PI and clear the room.

Darkness275

So, you bottleneck a player's rewards based off whatever predetermined glass ceiling you have established for them - okay fine. But when your players ask you how said ceiling's are determined, so that they can work towards breaking their's and thus reach the next level - you say no?

"Can't release that, sorry. We know you'd like to get better, but tbh player progression and enjoyment isn't really our goal here. By the way, we know that the method of these glass ceilings are flawed and unfair to you players, but we dgaf and will continue using them."

Well, you know what I can't release? Any more money from my bank account. Not until you guys start becoming more transparent and responsive; and I don't mean 100% chance at gold! level of transparency either. Enjoy a 1* rating on the app store - I know you have plenty of whales to just continue to dump money for you, but I will no longer be one of them.

It's a shame too, because these dungeons and the Mad Titan trials are really fun, but I'm disappointed by your general reluctance to be fully transparent with your players and help them progress through your game in order to simply have a chance at earning better rewards. It's not even like you're just handing the rewards out, you'd simply be providing them the information on what they could do to earn the chance at unlocking said rewards, and you can't even do that.

Jetfoil17

I've been playing this game for 8 mouth and in one event you just convinced me to quit... Your prestige bracked to be able to reach milestone and reward are way too high.. I am uncollected and i do map5 every day.. I hold on my ressource till i can pull a good 5 star since i don't need any 4 stars anymore . I have three 4 stars r5 and one 5 stars r3 and a lot a 4 stars r4 but i can't even use my artefact to buy 5 stars.. This event was the only thing really new for mounth and i can't even enjoy it because the only reward i can get with my artefact are basicaly useless for me.. Thanks Kabam

The_Grandmaster

so far this event seems like a major hassle. So far I have teamed up with people who only wanted to do a room or 2 and bail which cost me some good champs to now be locked. Had people who wouldn't communicate and just did whatever they wanted. and not to mention the endless conversations of people just trying to find partners to play a dungeon with. This is going to be a long month full of aggravation. And btw I don't know why Kabam has to be so secretive about the PI of the teams in each dungeon and how much point they award. Someone from the community will figure all this out and post it for us all to know eventually so it makes no sense for Kabam to not do it first. Overall I was hyped for this event but after 1 day of playing it I am now thinking it will be just another disappointment

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Primmer79

Bajjsbwuqjw wrote: »

How are we able to buy the first week 27k 5* crystalls before they timeout if we can play only 1950 a day and that would be about 14000 dark items

check the announcement

RagamugginGunner

I really hate these. Take way too much time and if you partner screws up you lost like 30-45 min of work. Just wait a week and everyone is going to hate the ~2 hour block they'll need to unlock all the rewards to get the 5* crystals.

Nomarigerol

The_Grandmaster wrote: »

so far this event seems like a major hassle. So far I have teamed up with people who only wanted to do a room or 2 and bail which cost me some good champs to now be locked. Had people who wouldn't communicate and just did whatever they wanted. and not to mention the endless conversations of people just trying to find partners to play a dungeon with. This is going to be a long month full of aggravation. And btw I don't know why Kabam has to be so secretive about the PI of the teams in each dungeon and how much point they award. Someone from the community will figure all this out and post it for us all to know eventually so it makes no sense for Kabam to not do it first. Overall I was hyped for this event but after 1 day of playing it I am now thinking it will be just another disappointment

so time consuming, and for what in the end ? 27k dark artifacts seem unreachable unless you play everyday like your life depends on it, and as for the the infinity dust meh, the other way to win it seem easier

Primmer79

Nomarigerol wrote: »

The_Grandmaster wrote: »

so far this event seems like a major hassle. So far I have teamed up with people who only wanted to do a room or 2 and bail which cost me some good champs to now be locked. Had people who wouldn't communicate and just did whatever they wanted. and not to mention the endless conversations of people just trying to find partners to play a dungeon with. This is going to be a long month full of aggravation. And btw I don't know why Kabam has to be so secretive about the PI of the teams in each dungeon and how much point they award. Someone from the community will figure all this out and post it for us all to know eventually so it makes no sense for Kabam to not do it first. Overall I was hyped for this event but after 1 day of playing it I am now thinking it will be just another disappointment

so time consuming, and for what in the end ? 27k dark artifacts seem unreachable unless you play everyday like your life depends on it, and as for the the infinity dust meh, the other way to win it seem easier

You can theoretically get 3 5* crystals throughout the month doing it all. I'll plan on 2 and be happy

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SuperFarz

Cheesedit wrote: »

SuperFarz wrote: »

I see people are getting confused. From what I see there are 2 cutoffs. One cutoff from being able to see the 5* chrystal and another cutoff for the highest milestone in dungeon. It’s just unfortunate that no information is available on the requirements. Event however is fun and well made ( except chat). However whatever the cutoff is the people just below it will be mad and frustrated. As usual time is needed to grow your account so for the next time you will be hopefully qualified.

So a 400k or 500k needs more time to grow? Lol ok, you must be getting all the rewards.

Why do you think a summoner rating should be the criteria for this? Because you fall in that category? The last time they used summoner rating for cutoffs people were also complaining as many people sold their 1/2/3* champs. Anyways without full transparency before hand which criteria they are using and what the treshholds are it only leads to chaos. Atleast that way people can do something beforehand.

superunknown012

Spoiler alert - people are always going to complain.

Biggest crime here was not being transparent about exactly what the prestige thresholds were.

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Primmer79

Bajjsbwuqjw wrote: »

Primmer79 wrote: »

Bajjsbwuqjw wrote: »

How are we able to buy the first week 27k 5* crystalls before they timeout if we can play only 1950 a day and that would be about 14000 dark items

check the announcement

I did but it doesnt make sense to sell crystalls with timeout that cannot be bought

they're coming back around. not done in 7 days. they put them up now to see them first basically

gohard123

gohard123 wrote: »

Why are the dungeons ending 12 hours from now when they only started 8 hours ago? Is it meant to be 24 hr or 20 hour duration ?

This is an important question @Kabam Miike

RSoxNo1

Chat isn't working at all in this and when you go back to Event Quests and hit "replay" it will replace your EQ team with your last dungeon team. This needs a patch ASAP

Patchie93

gohard123 wrote: »

gohard123 wrote: »

Why are the dungeons ending 12 hours from now when they only started 8 hours ago? Is it meant to be 24 hr or 20 hour duration ?

This is an important question @Kabam Miike

I think since the first day started so late it's a short day where the rest will be 24hrs.
Although it shouldn't take that long to hit milestones. Even with a smaller roster

Moss_the_Boss

I'm playing this game for a looong long time now..i've completed most of the events/story-missions. And there was never a milestone just given to a bunch of people..this is the First time you're doing this and no one knows...why??? Set for everyone the same milestones or it wouldnt be fair....a newcomer will not get all of them..you know that ..or are the milestones based on how much money you spend? No problem i'll give you all my money ...but please kabam ...dont let it be like this..there are a lot of people pissed right now..and a lot of people will quit this game..

Ch1efster

Seems like a really dumb idea to me. I agree with what almost everyone else has said. I can see 5* crystals, but yet do not have the top milestone available. So looks like there are 2 different brackets for things.....even dumber.

Demolisher2343

I’m uncollected have been for a while now I get absolute sh*t from 5* crystals so the only 5* I have ranked up is my rocket raccoon at rank 3 and ur telling me that a rank 3 5* and 5 maxed 4* isn’t enough to claim a 5* crystal for all the hard work I put into this game. It’s nit good enough. I should be allowed to purchase the new 5* crystals

Moss_the_Boss

Eddiefil wrote: »

Parthyzan wrote: »

Kabam Miike wrote: »

Dr_Physico wrote: »

Are there different milestone "settings" and what do they depend on?
Some colleagues have the fifth (last) milestone at 7500 points, while in my account the fifth is at 5000 points (and less dust, artifacts & gold).

There are brackets to the Milestones. More experienced players will see higher Milestone thresholds than players that do not have as strong Rosters.

I know this isn't what you'd like to hear, but this is done to ensure that we maintain an appropriate level of progress for players, and not to overload newer players with Champions and Items that they cannot use yet, or are too powerful for their current progression.

This is not fair. I'm uncollected for a long time, i have completed Nameless Guillotine, have 6* heroe, multiple R4 5*s, and not enough experienced for the last reward? I'm not allowed to get the highest possible reward with 500k rating? Are you serious? This is completely unacceptable.... This is the biggest **** what you ever done with this game....

Didn't you hear Mike? It's to prevent "brand new summoners" from getting stuff such as the 5* hero crystal, your out of luck since your "brand new" according to Kabam.

I heard him..and still i do not understand this half-assed statement..do you really think that an account with 5k points can get all the milestones?

First. Their champ-rating is way too low..second they do not have this much champ to get 7,5k points a day..

Moss_the_Boss

And i'm playing since april 2015..so no i'm not brand new

Jaded

I enjoyed the dungeons but obviously a few aspects need to be tweaked imo.

1) change brackets 4K prestige and down = 5k milestones & 4.1k prestige and up 7.5k milestones

2) change the recharge timers to a flat 24hrs for all champs. Having 40hrs between recharges for my top 5* champs is just useless. Depending on when I’m available to run dungeon 5 to room 10, I may get to use them every 3 days. And I can see people arguing that we don’t need top champs and can just run more rooms. But this is to finish it quickly and not be tied to more game aspects as we already are. (Aq, aw, monthly eq, vanquishing blows, trials)

And to clarify I’m in the 7.5k milestone bracket with 6.7k prestige. I’d advocate the changes because it’s rightfully upsetting many good players that were looking forward to 3 5* crystals.

Also why would the rotating 5* crystals for the dark artifacts be running now when no one can buy them for at least 2 weeks? This also seems senseless to me. We will miss 2 rotations which will basically mean we will be left with 3 rotations of the crystals which equals to 1 chance at one set of them and 2 chances at the other set of 3. So depending on which crystal people would want to go after they may only have 1 chance at it...🤔

Narcuul

The in game chat for this has times when it is super slow, you cant back out easily into another chat program because if you are away from the game for more than 30 seconds it restarts. The dungeons are incredibly tedious for a mobile game.

I really like the concept of these things, but this looks like a go back to drawing board moment. Also, the prestige wall? Kind of a crappy sneak in, even though I am able to achieve the highest rewards

Ch1efster

From info i have heard, looks like 5500 prestige is cutoff for highest milestone.

Farseer123456789

Lots of posts on this I'm sure but I'm not receiving messages in dungeon chat. I'm using an LG device. Hope this gets sorted