Silent nerfs or fixes?

Howdy.

I am the happy owner of a 4/55 AA, a 4/55 Mephisto and a 4/55 Drax at sig 200. And a 5/65 Magik at sig 200.

I took Drax to rank 4, when I found out he would counter Mordo's astral evade. He has been working like that for as long as Mordo has been in the game.

I took AA to rank 4 because he could stun AW bosses, despite being stun immune(confimed by Mike previously, to be working as intended".

My magik also doesnt gain power from her l2, if my opponent has 0 power. This is also new.

I took my mephisto to rank 4, since he at the time was the perfect Medusa counter. We all know what happened with Meph.

So overall you have nerfed, fixed or whatever you call it, 4 out of my 5 rank4/rank5's.

Now, it is what it is, but I used alot of time, resources and obviously money to rank these champs, only to have worthless champs now.

Everytime the talk falls upon rankdown tickets, you tells us that you wont give any due to specific changes. But these are gamechanging.

Please do the right thing. Roll back your "fixes", or hand out a handfull of RDT and let people decide what to do with them.

Thanks for listening

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charaderdude2

Abilities needed as @tufan_1974 said.These are Unjust changes designed to catch us off guard and milk us

Andrew

Grønner wrote: »

Howdy.
Thanks for listening

sadly.. they are not listening, and they will not.

Kobster84

Yeh they turned Spider-Man symbiote and spidergwens evade into passive meaning they can’t be nullified

Palanthrax

Grønner wrote: »

Howdy.

I am the happy owner of a 4/55 AA, a 4/55 Mephisto and a 4/55 Drax at sig 200. And a 5/65 Magik at sig 200.

I took Drax to rank 4, when I found out he would counter Mordo's astral evade. He has been working like that for as long as Mordo has been in the game.

I took AA to rank 4 because he could stun AW bosses, despite being stun immune(confimed by Mike previously, to be working as intended".

My magik also doesnt gain power from her l2, if my opponent has 0 power. This is also new.

I took my mephisto to rank 4, since he at the time was the perfect Medusa counter. We all know what happened with Meph.

So overall you have nerfed, fixed or whatever you call it, 4 out of my 5 rank4/rank5's.

Now, it is what it is, but I used alot of time, resources and obviously money to rank these champs, only to have worthless champs now.

Everytime the talk falls upon rankdown tickets, you tells us that you wont give any due to specific changes. But these are gamechanging.

Please do the right thing. Roll back your "fixes", or hand out a handfull of RDT and let people decide what to do with them.

Thanks for listening

Didn't you hear? They don't do stealth nerfs:

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/56769/#Comment_56769

Kabam Miike wrote: »

Hey guys,

Once again, we don't silently nerf characters. If you notice a change in a character that we haven't announced, it's likely a bug. We do our very best to make sure that every change we are made aware of is communicated out to all of you.

So everything is fine. It's all fine here. Totally fine.

charaderdude2

Palanthrax wrote: »

Grønner wrote: »

Howdy.

I am the happy owner of a 4/55 AA, a 4/55 Mephisto and a 4/55 Drax at sig 200. And a 5/65 Magik at sig 200.

I took Drax to rank 4, when I found out he would counter Mordo's astral evade. He has been working like that for as long as Mordo has been in the game.

I took AA to rank 4 because he could stun AW bosses, despite being stun immune(confimed by Mike previously, to be working as intended".

My magik also doesnt gain power from her l2, if my opponent has 0 power. This is also new.

I took my mephisto to rank 4, since he at the time was the perfect Medusa counter. We all know what happened with Meph.

So overall you have nerfed, fixed or whatever you call it, 4 out of my 5 rank4/rank5's.

Now, it is what it is, but I used alot of time, resources and obviously money to rank these champs, only to have worthless champs now.

Everytime the talk falls upon rankdown tickets, you tells us that you wont give any due to specific changes. But these are gamechanging.

Please do the right thing. Roll back your "fixes", or hand out a handfull of RDT and let people decide what to do with them.

Thanks for listening

Didn't you hear? They don't do stealth nerfs:

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/56769/#Comment_56769

Kabam Miike wrote: »

Hey guys,

Once again, we don't silently nerf characters. If you notice a change in a character that we haven't announced, it's likely a bug. We do our very best to make sure that every change we are made aware of is communicated out to all of you.

So everything is fine. It's all fine here. Totally fine.

Butthurt mode:Enga-
Sarcasm detected,Abort Operation Triggered

Eb0ny-O-M4w

Everything were bug fixes, that's it. A player with some knowledge of the game would know that something was wrong with those interactions

charaderdude2

will-o-wisp wrote: »

Everything were bug fixes, that's it. A player with some knowledge of the game would know that something was wrong with those interactions

2 things,
1.All of these weren't announced,Out of the blue
2.This just proves Kabam fixes Player beneficial bugs more quickly than the detrimental ones.I detect bias.

Rixob

Kabams level of transparency is disgusting. I really dont know what process they use when they decide which information is going to be released to the community, but that needs to be completely reevaluated.
They are making it painfullyobvious they the developers DO NOT PLAY THE GAME. (at least at a high level)

Seriously kabam, it may not sound like a big deal to you, but people put some serious time and effort into these characters and ranked them for the specific abilities that you made for them. Changing characters a year or months later just seems like a really shady way to make your players continue to play so they can get a new character with new abilities.

Its just bad taste Kabam, when will you guys either raise the level of transparency, or just stop nerfing characters. Please help me understand.

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Bahamut

They didn’t mention it in the patch notes or respond to any threads on it (as far as I know) so until Kabam tells me to my face that it’s a bug fix, it’s a nerf.

Eb0ny-O-M4w

charaderdude2 wrote: »

will-o-wisp wrote: »

Everything were bug fixes, that's it. A player with some knowledge of the game would know that something was wrong with those interactions

2 things,
1.All of these weren't announced,Out of the blue
2.This just proves Kabam fixes Player beneficial bugs more quickly than the detrimental ones.I detect bias.

I agree that it was a bad decision not to announce this fixes ... However the second thing can't really be applied here. These bugs are here for more than a year. They weren't fixed in just 1 or 2 weeks

charaderdude2

will-o-wisp wrote: »

charaderdude2 wrote: »

will-o-wisp wrote: »

Everything were bug fixes, that's it. A player with some knowledge of the game would know that something was wrong with those interactions

2 things,
1.All of these weren't announced,Out of the blue
2.This just proves Kabam fixes Player beneficial bugs more quickly than the detrimental ones.I detect bias.

I agree that it was a bad decision not to announce this fixes ... However the second thing can't really be applied here. These bugs are here for more than a year. They weren't fixed in just 1 or 2 weeks

CM L2 took 2 years,Detrimental.As soon as they hear bugs that benefit they fix.When they see detrimental bugs they respond with "We're working to get it fixed ASAP" and look how long it takes

Palanthrax

Rixob wrote: »

Kabams level of transparency is disgusting. I really dont know what process they use when they decide which information is going to be released to the community, but that needs to be completely reevaluated.
They are making it painfullyobvious they the developers DO NOT PLAY THE GAME. (at least at a high level)

Seriously kabam, it may not sound like a big deal to you, but people put some serious time and effort into these characters and ranked them for the specific abilities that you made for them. Changing characters a year or months later just seems like a really shady way to make your players continue to play so they can get a new character with new abilities.

Its just bad taste Kabam, when will you guys either raise the level of transparency, or just stop nerfing characters. Please help me understand.

It's akin to buying a 600 HP Ferrari, driving it around for 18 months, then finding out one morning that they broke into your garage and swapped in a 200 HP engine.

"Sorry mate, we fitted the wrong engine 18 months ago, kthxbye!"

Oroku_Saki

Since we'll never know for sure I say we go with "firfs".

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Oroku_Saki

Mcord117 wrote: »

So drax no longer works on mordo? Need to find a duel target

No. Mordo now works on Drax. Because Drax was supposed to be a counter to Mordo. See it all makes sense now.

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SSofLimbo

Could the people who are basically saying this is a illogical ability/ bug fix so get over it, please tell us who their favourite or best champions are so we can point out their illogical abilities/bugs that needs to be fixed/nerfed asap.

No? Didn't think so.

SMiller80

Yet again, Kabam seems to be doing everything they can to lose their player base. Amazing how such a great game can be ruined because of the underhanded way the company runs.

AlCapone2727

They're watching all these and saying nothing

mostlyharmlessn

They just said there's been no change to Drax which is probably correct, they probably changed Mordo's astral evade timing

Aleor

Palanthrax wrote: »

Grønner wrote: »

Howdy.

I am the happy owner of a 4/55 AA, a 4/55 Mephisto and a 4/55 Drax at sig 200. And a 5/65 Magik at sig 200.

I took Drax to rank 4, when I found out he would counter Mordo's astral evade. He has been working like that for as long as Mordo has been in the game.

I took AA to rank 4 because he could stun AW bosses, despite being stun immune(confimed by Mike previously, to be working as intended".

My magik also doesnt gain power from her l2, if my opponent has 0 power. This is also new.

I took my mephisto to rank 4, since he at the time was the perfect Medusa counter. We all know what happened with Meph.

So overall you have nerfed, fixed or whatever you call it, 4 out of my 5 rank4/rank5's.

Now, it is what it is, but I used alot of time, resources and obviously money to rank these champs, only to have worthless champs now.

Everytime the talk falls upon rankdown tickets, you tells us that you wont give any due to specific changes. But these are gamechanging.

Please do the right thing. Roll back your "fixes", or hand out a handfull of RDT and let people decide what to do with them.

Thanks for listening

Didn't you hear? They don't do stealth nerfs:

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/56769/#Comment_56769

Kabam Miike wrote: »

Hey guys,

Once again, we don't silently nerf characters. If you notice a change in a character that we haven't announced, it's likely a bug. We do our very best to make sure that every change we are made aware of is communicated out to all of you.

So everything is fine. It's all fine here. Totally fine.

so it's all bugs apparently? looks like we all should report it, right? and then maybe they will fix it in couple of years) or maybe not

Losspik

5/65 AA & R4 Drax here, today has been a very sad one for me, AA is significantly worse in LOL now coz his Stun effects limber like parries do.

a big part of why I ranked up drax has also been nerfed, I also have a R4 Blade guess its a matter of time before they fix one of his 'Bugs'

Champ specific RDTs are in order I would be happy with just 5* RDTs as the resources need to rank them up are rare.

mostlyharmlessn

In other words we are all over reacting and it's our devices fault...

It seems we have all been Kabamed!

scottstevenson86

Has everyone yet realized that kabaam doesnt care about players.... its worthless to even make a post. Just quit the game and move on like many have dont feed money to them. That is the only way they will ever learn that voices have monetary value and consequences if not listened to.

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Donn1

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/56769/#Comment_56769

Kabam Miike wrote: »

Hey guys,

Once again, we don't silently nerf characters. If you notice a change in a character that we haven't announced, it's likely a bug. We do our very best to make sure that every change we are made aware of is communicated out to all of you.

@Kabam Miike so, if what you said above still applies, all of these 'silent nerfs' people are talking about are 'likely bugs' and will be fixed soon?

CapWW2

I think we deserve RANK DOWN TICKETS for these changes

Steve76s

Unless this decision is reversed then i will be a permanent f2p player. How's about fixing the 1 shot kill mod players are still using. 1 player literally cleared an entire path 5 in war and took out modok in less then 1 minute. Modok was war boss and he did with an r4 blade but a 10 second fight is hard to swallow considering modok is an r4 5 star sig 100 with 40k plus health. I have an r5 blade and it takes almost the full 3 minutes to drop him and thats with maxed dw, maxed assassin and all crit mastery running with holy trinity. Player just rolled with a 4 star r4 gr, hype and r4 blade. Why not fix the issues causing everyone to be disgruntled. We need you (Kabam) to stand by your loyal players and help resolve issues on going for years not issues just posted yesterday that benefit players