who cares, loop holes are closed new ones open. Top tier alliance are obsessed with the game and wining, they not only put all their time and money in they study the game and bend rules, Is there anywhere in the rules of this game that what they are doing is wrong? If not ,it's called thinking thinking outside the box. These guys keep kabam in business, they make videos on YouTube spending 3k of real money buying FGMCs (which kudos to kabam for making bank on changing the featured 5* crystal , that was their plan all along.)
Many upper tier alliances are competitive. Cheaters should have no place there.
And I disagree. You're broadly labeling the whales/players who post FGMC openings on YouTube as cheaters, which is without proof.
Colluding is not smart, or thinking outside the box, or strategic. It's literally throwing all other alliances under the bus.
I think Kabam should step it up in punishments. There have been warnings/pity slaps towards cheating since the beginning of the game.
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Part of my post in another discussion:
A 2* war in AW doesn't happen without collusion to maximize point gain (using LINE, etc). Two alliances colluding together to not use items/boosts for one to score more points in exchange for money, and so cheaters can maintain master awards, even top 3 awards, denying non colluders a chance at higher tier awards.
Basically, this "smart" collusion is, using bribe money to act as cheat code to giving one alliance to a cheating war boost that guarantees a max point victory, while giving some members in another alliance an opportunity to make some money, while also not boosting/healing.
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Up to Kabam to bring down the hammer.
Hit cheaters where it hurts.
Give cheaters a cheating tag so they can't alliance hop to cheat elsewhere.
Or just ban them from alliance war/arena.
Kabam, plenty of people think you should enforce much harsher punishments. It'll deter cheating and save your staff time/effort in giving punishments , since there will no longer be a slow reactionary policy of small warnings/gentle slaps of punishment.
The clearly repeat cheaters/initiators of cheating should be banned permanently, or carry a cheater tag and have their top 10 champs deleted.
Love ur idea of a cheating tag.....
Give the player a 7 day ban....
Give the alliance a war rating drop...
Give the alliance a 6 war ban..... (only counting season wars thats is 2 weeks worth of war season wars and would carry over to the next season)
And give each player “Cheat” tag for 1 year.
This tag to be displayed around profile pic just as a legend tag would be....
if you're the kind of alliance that accepts bribe money to throw a match, please ask for more next time. Milk these cheaters dry, and "anonymously" report them.
@Kabam Vydious@Kabam Miike
Any word on if you guys are going to be punishing alliance's who are doing 2* wars? Doesn't seem quite fair to punish one alliance for matching up with a sister alliance, to get an easy win, when other alliances are doing pretty much the same thing but instead of placing no defenders they're placing 2*'s... a Free win is a Free win no matter how it's done & equal punishment should be given imho.
Violations From Kabam's TOS:
1. Intentionally interfere with the operation or fair play of any Services available on the Websites or through any Third Party Platform, or any other user’s enjoyment of such Services;
You could also say they violated this by using mutamatt's AW Opponent Calculator to know who they're fighting so that they could arrange a deal.
2. Use features of the Websites or Services for anything other than their intended purpose, including exploiting glitches for personal gain;
They exploited the +/- feature for AW Matchmaking to know who they would be facing, then contact them via line to setup an arrangement.
Just seems odd because there is no context as to waht exactly a 2* war is...... if i was a 1 mil ally then surely i would be able to fill my defence with only 2*.....
So it is not showing the context or mentioning anything like “a 2* war in this manner” or similar...
But if its legit great to see they view it as cheating. Now we just need to wait and see how they treat it. Do they ignore it? Do they ban? Do the deduct points? Do they remove rewards?
Just seems odd because there is no context as to waht exactly a 2* war is...... if i was a 1 mil ally then surely i would be able to fill my defence with only 2*.....
So it is not showing the context or mentioning anything like “a 2* war in this manner” or similar...
But if its legit great to see they view it as cheating. Now we just need to wait and see how they treat it. Do they ignore it? Do they ban? Do the deduct points? Do they remove rewards?
Yes its legit . I asked if it is ok for me to arrange a 2star war as i saw no punishment for that and i could use some easier wars .And this is their answer . That it is against TOS.
We know about your policy and that nothing is discussed on forums, however, given a 10k views hot boiling topic around and season about to end, it would be good to know that "you've discussed it and came to a conclusion".
there is no need to declare what said conclusion is or will be, as long as we know you worked on the matter. Tonights leaderboard will answer that.
Ne aware that 2* wars will be the trademark for the last wars would of this go unpunished, tho. It's been and still is the talk on all chats. There's even private chats for platinum forming up to organize 2* matchups would Kabam not punish and factually allowing them.
We know about your policy and that nothing is discussed on forums, however, given a 10k views hot boiling topic around and season about to end, it would be good to know that "you've discussed it and came to a conclusion".
there is no need to declare what said conclusion is or will be, as long as we know you worked on the matter. Tonights leaderboard will answer that.
Ne aware that 2* wars will be the trademark for the last wars would of this go unpunished, tho. It's been and still is the talk on all chats. There's even private chats for platinum forming up to organize 2* matchups would Kabam not punish and factually allowing them.
Makes sense. What’s to deter alliances from colluding in 2 star war agreements for the remainder of the season?
Can't wait til i see a thread entitled "we agreed to a 2* war with x alliance and they placed 5*s instead. Give us the win". Reading that would make laugh for days.
Would love to get some insight as to what (if any) actions are going to be taken here. On the 17th, a Moderator mentioned we would have some answers within a day or so. Responses to this could make a huge difference in the outcome of season 2 and, as a member of an alliance with a chance to end the season in Master, I believe I speak for many when I say that insight into how this type of situation will be treated could prove to be very valuable.
Would love to get some insight as to what (if any) actions are going to be taken here. On the 17th, a Moderator mentioned we would have some answers within a day or so. Responses to this could make a huge difference in the outcome of season 2 and, as a member of an alliance with a chance to end the season in Master, I believe I speak for many when I say that insight into how this type of situation will be treated could prove to be very valuable.
I hope that a review is done on many top alliance to make sure they didn't participate in this cheating. If they did I hope the full wars points for each offense is deducted from each alliances final score.
Did one 2* war? Lose ~1.3 million points in master.
Did two 2* wars? Lose ~2.6 million points in master.
Would love to get some insight as to what (if any) actions are going to be taken here. On the 17th, a Moderator mentioned we would have some answers within a day or so. Responses to this could make a huge difference in the outcome of season 2 and, as a member of an alliance with a chance to end the season in Master, I believe I speak for many when I say that insight into how this type of situation will be treated could prove to be very valuable.
I hope that a review is done on many top alliance to make sure they didn't participate in this cheating. If they did I hope the full wars points for each offense is deducted from each alliances final score.
Did one 2* war? Lose ~1.3 million points in master.
Did two 2* wars? Lose ~2.6 million points in master.
My opinion on the matter is irrelevant - what is relevant however is that the response to this specific issue has the potential to turn the last few wars of the season upside down. That, I would like to be prepared for.
Lower war rating isn’t fair to next their down Makes lower alliance fight higher alliance. Keep rating high , And change multiplier to 0 So they have to fight higher teams and get their A55s kick like they deserve.
Some response here before matchmaking opens would be great. I think we have all been waiting long enough. If there is no response on this topic then we can conclude that all alliances can run 2 star wars and gain maximum points without repercussions. And we too can save our boosts and potions for harder wars as these alliances have done.
Lower war rating isn’t fair to next their down Makes lower alliance fight higher alliance. Keep rating high , And change multiplier to 0 So they have to fight higher teams and get their A55s kick like they deserve.
I agree, Kabam needs a system where they can temporarily give a team a lower multiplier without actually lowering their rating.
Maybe something like reduce their season points and throw the cheating alliances in to a low priority queue. This could have a lower multiplier, so innocent lower tier alliances are negatively effected by this. Also, I'm sure the queue times in this "low priority queue" wont be as fast, so that's another bonus for people who don't cheat!
Lower war rating isn’t fair to next their down Makes lower alliance fight higher alliance. Keep rating high , And change multiplier to 0 So they have to fight higher teams and get their A55s kick like they deserve.
I agree, Kabam needs a system where they can temporarily give a team a lower multiplier without actually lowering their rating.
Maybe something like reduce their season points and throw the cheating alliances in to a low priority queue. This could have a lower multiplier, so innocent lower tier alliances are negatively effected by this. Also, I'm sure the queue times in this "low priority queue" wont be as fast, so that's another bonus for people who don't cheat!
Take away multiplier and make them fight up a tier
Still not resolved? We have to put a stop to all point manipulations. My alliance could be in Master bracket today if it wasn’t for these cheaters and their backdoor 2* deals to maximize points. Not even talking about boosts and items we need to use every war
Wanted to drop by to let you know that this hasn't gone under the radar and that we are still heavily discussing it. Once we have a direct response on the topic we'll be back to update you all here.
Wanted to drop by to let you know that this hasn't gone under the radar and that we are still heavily discussing it. Once we have a direct response on the topic we'll be back to update you all here.
Thank you for your patience on this, folks.
There’s really only two responses to this.
1) it’s exploitative and should be punished and punished in the future
2) it’s ok for these alliances to do it, thus it’s ok for all of us to do it in the future
What is not acceptable is that there is no punishment for this, but there will be punishment in the future. The reprecussions should not be different for these alliances just because they spend more than other alliances.
Wanted to drop by to let you know that this hasn't gone under the radar and that we are still heavily discussing it. Once we have a direct response on the topic we'll be back to update you all here.
Thank you for your patience on this, folks.
Thanks and i hope you can appreciate the urgency on our end as this cheating has directly effected season 2 which is ending soon.
Wanted to drop by to let you know that this hasn't gone under the radar and that we are still heavily discussing it. Once we have a direct response on the topic we'll be back to update you all here.
Thank you for your patience on this, folks.
@Kabam Vydious thank you, there are allainces out here actually fighting for rewards
Lower war rating isn’t fair to next their down Makes lower alliance fight higher alliance. Keep rating high , And change multiplier to 0 So they have to fight higher teams and get their A55s kick like they deserve.
I agree, Kabam needs a system where they can temporarily give a team a lower multiplier without actually lowering their rating.
Maybe something like reduce their season points and throw the cheating alliances in to a low priority queue. This could have a lower multiplier, so innocent lower tier alliances are negatively effected by this. Also, I'm sure the queue times in this "low priority queue" wont be as fast, so that's another bonus for people who don't cheat!
Take away multiplier and make them fight up a tier
Wanted to drop by to let you know that this hasn't gone under the radar and that we are still heavily discussing it. Once we have a direct response on the topic we'll be back to update you all here.
Thank you for your patience on this, folks.
@Kabam Vydious thank you, there are allainces out here actually fighting for rewards
You should be pretty happy that the alliance right ahead of you will drop out. You all now control your own destiny.
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it would bring about some needed change?
What about 3*?
What about rank 1, rank 2, rank 3 or rank 4 4* champs?
What about rank 1 or rank 2 5* champs?
They are all very easy to kill for top alliances and no one would place them in a real war.
Any word on if you guys are going to be punishing alliance's who are doing 2* wars? Doesn't seem quite fair to punish one alliance for matching up with a sister alliance, to get an easy win, when other alliances are doing pretty much the same thing but instead of placing no defenders they're placing 2*'s... a Free win is a Free win no matter how it's done & equal punishment should be given imho.
Violations From Kabam's TOS:
1. Intentionally interfere with the operation or fair play of any Services available on the Websites or through any Third Party Platform, or any other user’s enjoyment of such Services;
You could also say they violated this by using mutamatt's AW Opponent Calculator to know who they're fighting so that they could arrange a deal.
2. Use features of the Websites or Services for anything other than their intended purpose, including exploiting glitches for personal gain;
They exploited the +/- feature for AW Matchmaking to know who they would be facing, then contact them via line to setup an arrangement.
Well poo if it is.
So it is not showing the context or mentioning anything like “a 2* war in this manner” or similar...
But if its legit great to see they view it as cheating. Now we just need to wait and see how they treat it. Do they ignore it? Do they ban? Do the deduct points? Do they remove rewards?
Yes its legit . I asked if it is ok for me to arrange a 2star war as i saw no punishment for that and i could use some easier wars .And this is their answer . That it is against TOS.
I'm curious now what is gonna happen.
@Kabam Miike @Kabam Vydious @Kabam Zibiit @Kabam Loto @Kabam DK
We know about your policy and that nothing is discussed on forums, however, given a 10k views hot boiling topic around and season about to end, it would be good to know that "you've discussed it and came to a conclusion".
there is no need to declare what said conclusion is or will be, as long as we know you worked on the matter. Tonights leaderboard will answer that.
Ne aware that 2* wars will be the trademark for the last wars would of this go unpunished, tho. It's been and still is the talk on all chats. There's even private chats for platinum forming up to organize 2* matchups would Kabam not punish and factually allowing them.
Makes sense. What’s to deter alliances from colluding in 2 star war agreements for the remainder of the season?
I hope that a review is done on many top alliance to make sure they didn't participate in this cheating. If they did I hope the full wars points for each offense is deducted from each alliances final score.
Did one 2* war? Lose ~1.3 million points in master.
Did two 2* wars? Lose ~2.6 million points in master.
My opinion on the matter is irrelevant - what is relevant however is that the response to this specific issue has the potential to turn the last few wars of the season upside down. That, I would like to be prepared for.
Some response here before matchmaking opens would be great. I think we have all been waiting long enough. If there is no response on this topic then we can conclude that all alliances can run 2 star wars and gain maximum points without repercussions. And we too can save our boosts and potions for harder wars as these alliances have done.
I agree, Kabam needs a system where they can temporarily give a team a lower multiplier without actually lowering their rating.
Maybe something like reduce their season points and throw the cheating alliances in to a low priority queue. This could have a lower multiplier, so innocent lower tier alliances are negatively effected by this. Also, I'm sure the queue times in this "low priority queue" wont be as fast, so that's another bonus for people who don't cheat!
Take away multiplier and make them fight up a tier
Wanted to drop by to let you know that this hasn't gone under the radar and that we are still heavily discussing it. Once we have a direct response on the topic we'll be back to update you all here.
Thank you for your patience on this, folks.
There’s really only two responses to this.
1) it’s exploitative and should be punished and punished in the future
2) it’s ok for these alliances to do it, thus it’s ok for all of us to do it in the future
What is not acceptable is that there is no punishment for this, but there will be punishment in the future. The reprecussions should not be different for these alliances just because they spend more than other alliances.
Thanks and i hope you can appreciate the urgency on our end as this cheating has directly effected season 2 which is ending soon.
@Kabam Vydious thank you, there are allainces out here actually fighting for rewards
tier 1...is the highest tier lol
You should be pretty happy that the alliance right ahead of you will drop out. You all now control your own destiny.
Its not fair for those of us who play the game as its meant.