Magik is too powerful.
Sudubu
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So let me get this straight, kabam, you nerfed regen champs in alliance wars and for what reason? They were too powerful? Yet a magik can be put on basically any node and can full wipe your team just from her limbo. That seems a bit ridiculous, don't you think? That's not even including the fact that she can have mystic dispersion to further add to the limbo frequency. And to all those that will say "well you can use your own magik to counteract her limbo" you obviously haven't fought a 5* magik that's immune to debuffs.
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As it is, damage that cannot be countered or avoided is dumb.
The simplest fix (as always) is to tweak dexterity to not activate MD or allow us to evade projectiles without having the Dex mastery. This would slow down the Limbo chances, but that's a different convo getting into the MD mastery.
I think Limbo should be able to be staggered or even buff stolen by Loki or Rogue. Then we would have a different game entirely and then we might see other champs in AW on offense and defense.
Over all i think any buff that shows up should be stealable. There seems to be some that can be staggered and others that cannot. Make buffs equal.
To my knowledge, there's not a power control champ that can avoid it completely. Ability reducing champs can completely avoid Electro's damage. That's strategy. For power control, you have to get a special before you can power lock/power drain her, and she'll have the chance to activate Limbo when she hits her special first. Power control champs are the best option, but they can't prevent it. There should be some game mechanic that's built in that allows players to counter Limbo, Coldsnap, degen, etc. Forcing players to take damage that cannot be countered is dumb. The best strategy is to minimize the chance that you'll take damage, but there's no counter to it.
Correct me if I'm wrong. I'd support these things in the game if I knew how to counter it.
I have a sig 99 BW that I use with Quake and Hawkeye. I'll give that a shot next time I see her in AW.
Sure there is
Magik
In my experience, AI Magik will gain her sp1 and sp2 before you get your sp2. That's two times that she has a chance to trigger Limbo, even using Magik.
Takes practice but I enjoy fighting Magik with "Quake charging".
I can't quite recall if MD has an effect while using her besides the occasional dexterity usage.
Beating Magik without her ever getting a bar of power is...tricky yet very satisfying.
Yeah but you (and a lot more people) are forgetting that I'm talking about a debuff immune magik.
And yet you are the one who was calling for them to nurf star lord you just like picking fights don't you lol
Again, everything you say is invalid because on a debuff immune node you can't reduce her ability accuracy.
I might have stated this earlier but magik can be concussed and her limbo won't trigger. I did it with gambits sp2. So try him out.
The counters to magik are:
Archangel Neurotoxin
Gwenpool Signature ability plus power lock
Quake
Gambit
OG Vision
Magik herself
You definitely CAN reduce ability accuracy on debuff immune nodes. There are fewer options (no elektra, AA, quake), but widow, bones, Falcon, gwenpool, voodoo, etc can still do it as they do not accomplish ability reduction through debuffs. It's obviously not the easiest thing to do, but there are options besides brute force and complete luck.
A lot of players mentioning champ specific work arounds, but ive found this mastery works best, especially when used with a power control champ.
I can understand complaints about her on immune nodes or boss node, as pacify is no longer affective, but all other nodes she is more than managable with pacify.
Hope this helps!