AW Cheating Teams Demoted: Do their opponents get the Win instead of a Loss?
MavRCK_
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Like the Olympics, when an opponent was determined to have cheated, the contestant gets the win or a medal retrospectively.
Since 3 out of our 4 opponents (top 3-5 AW rating teams / masters) have been demoted presumably for the infractions incurred during the wars we faced against them, should we not receive a WIN instead of a LOSS and the appropriate adjustment in points? 50,000 x Tier 1 7x rating x 3 ?
Thanks!
Since 3 out of our 4 opponents (top 3-5 AW rating teams / masters) have been demoted presumably for the infractions incurred during the wars we faced against them, should we not receive a WIN instead of a LOSS and the appropriate adjustment in points? 50,000 x Tier 1 7x rating x 3 ?
Thanks!
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Congratulations. That's great news....
If your team was like ours.. even when you know you're facing a hard match and will probably lose, morale plummets and everyone gets very emotional and easily upset. It takes a huge amount of work and stress management to calm things down and keep the team steady. This doesn't even account for potions, boosts, and time spent away from our loved ones (haha, but seriously, our partners suffer... well.. my gf does!! )
There is a real consequence to losing wars so I hope that Kabam management might take that this into consideration for the losing teams.
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What are you expecting Kabam to do about that? Hire a counselor for you and your partner to work through your issues?
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Haha. Just the adjustment in points from Loss to Win would be enough!
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Haha. Just the adjustment in points from Loss to Win would be enough!
Agreed.
And I was incorrect, we actually didn’t gain points.
When one of these high level docked alliances matches another high level alliance, I can pay the docked alliance real money to pilot and beat the other alliance. This will move the legit alliance down the rankings with a loss and allow my alliance to more easily climb the rankings.
Don't think this doesn't happen. It has occurred every season of AW to some extent.
Collusion among high level alliances happens all the time.
To prevent this there was a recommendation by other community members to hide the time and the +/- points. It won't eliminate collusion, but will severely limit its occurrence.
See the issue here is, you are openly admitting that a game is making you emotional and putting you in need of stress management, but I’m ok with that, but seriously, putting Contest of Champions before your girlfriend?? Seriously?
It’s simple. Give the win to the looser and the 50000 pts x Tier Multiplier.
Is this so controversial? Winner cheated, they get penalized. Looser gets a win and points for winning.
***example of how the Olympics handles cheating:
https://www.cbc.ca/sports/olympics/canada-luge-gains-olympic-bronze-sochi-1.4462106
Canada to gain luge bronze from Sochi Olympics due to Russian doping
Edney, Gough, Snith, Walker were on relay team that finished 4th
We lost back to back wars against pilots very recently. We are at the border of tier 2 and 3 and plat 3 and 2. We used a lot of resources in those losses. Yes, we moved up a little after the adjustment but give us those two losses back and we would move up a lot more and here lies one of the problems of the current system: we were unjustly punished as well. Please fix this.
Kabam needs to remove all of the win bonus for the season from the cheaters and award it to the teams they beat. It's the right thing to do.
The problem with that is in your example: most sports in the Olympics, including the Luge, are scored against an absolute value such as time that all the teams are compared against equally, so everyone has the same scoring. With the Russians eliminated, you could simply compare the remaining times and come up with a valid ranking as if Russia had not competed at all. Canada was not the only team that increased their rank, just the one who got a medal from it instead of coming fourth.
The equivalent here is that Kabam removed a large chunk of points from the cheaters, so many alliances increased in their rank. For example, Little Land entered into the Master bracket due to the point reductions. They would be the equivalent of Canada, not whichever alliance played against the cheaters.
Using one of the medals stripped where the teams were paired off against each other would have been more accurate, but I've been unable to find what happened in those cases.